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| Millward eh? Unbelievable.
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| Quote ="Saddened!":7h4a2by9Millward eh? Unbelievable.'" then you can infringe that rule , this is one of the problems we have in the Championships , and one of the reasons I moan about the Thursday TV games , we usually end up with all our best matches being on tv and suffer financially because of it , and the other issue now is , will we be in the same position next year ? , having lost our benefactor mid season , we have players on contracts that we have to honour , but our income has been drastically reduced
All bollox really being where we are , this is quite likely to make it even more difficult to bring in somebody to take over the club as it could affect our ' box ticking ' for 2012
Maybe the RFL could come out and state now if it will be a blot on our copybook as regards that
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| Quote ="Starbug"Unlike SL we still have a 50 % salary cap , and if things dont go as well as you hope [ or as well as the figures you supply to the RFL then you can infringe that rule , this is one of the problems we have in the Championships , and one of the reasons I moan about the Thursday TV games , we usually end up with all our best matches being on tv and suffer financially because of it , and the other issue now is , will we be in the same position next year ? , having lost our benefactor mid season , we have players on contracts that we have to honour , but our income has been drastically reduced
All bollox really being where we are , this is quite likely to make it even more difficult to bring in somebody to take over the club as it could affect our ' box ticking ' for 2012
Maybe the RFL could come out and state now if it will be a blot on our copybook as regards that'"
If it is so difficult to judge whether or not a club will be able to stay within the the Salary Cap rules, within the Championship, then we'll probably see several other clubs having the same problem. I haven't seen any such breach by other Championship clubs yet.
So how is it only Leigh who've managed to feck it up?
Has there been some new ruling which has made it more difficult?
Why on earth would the RFL base a 50% rule on expected/projected revenue?
That’s plain crazy!
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| Will this affect there SL bid for super league 2015?
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| Quote ="Ronnie Neale"Will this affect there SL bid for super league 2015?'"
what bid? they have to win the NRC or reach the grand final first
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| Quote ="vikingsmurf"what bid? they have to win the NRC or reach the grand final first
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Absolutely right mate,its all a storm in a teacup.
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| Quote ="j.c"Absolutely right mate,its all a storm in a teacup.'"
If it puts somebody off from investing in the club , it certainly isn't a storm in a teacup
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| 3 points for a technical breach while Wigan only got a 4 point deduction for a laughable blatent breach. Nice to see the RFL are as consistent as ever.
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| I suppose a technical breach means:
- Leigh spent what they had projected they could spend and did not spend more than that -
- BUT they didn't make that projection (a projection which was presumably approved by the RFL when plans were submitted) because of various factors some of which would have been foreseeable and some perhaps not.
I can see how this technical breach is much less serious than spending more than you projected you could, as long as your original projection was not deliberately inflated.
It seems to me a harsh penalty when you consider what penalties you get for going bust (which we might get hit with based on current events).
What we are not told is how much the deficit was - was it a quid or a million quid?
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| Quote ="Starbug"If it puts somebody off from investing in the club , it certainly isn't a storm in a teacup'"
Give me proof as to why that should happen and i'll change my oppinion.
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| Quote ="mapleyther"I suppose a technical breach means:
- Leigh spent what they had projected they could spend and did not spend more than that -
- BUT they didn't make that projection (a projection which was presumably approved by the RFL when plans were submitted) because of various factors some of which would have been foreseeable and some perhaps not.
I can see how this technical breach is much less serious than spending more than you projected you could, as long as your original projection was not deliberately inflated.
It seems to me a harsh penalty when you consider what penalties you get for going bust (which we might get hit with based on current events).
What we are not told is how much the deficit was - was it a quid or a million quid?'"
3 point deduction or fine ? , which would the club prefer right now ?
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| Quote ="j.c"Give me proof as to why that should happen and i'll change my oppinion.'"
I'd certainly be asking the RFL to clarify it one way or the other
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| Quote ="Starbug"3 point deduction or fine ? , which would the club prefer right now ?'"
Bang on. We'll take the deduction.
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| Quote ="Starbug"I'd certainly be asking the RFL to clarify it one way or the other'"
You want the RFL to clarify one way or the other, why you believe a three point deduction could put off a potential investor?
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| Leigh being docked points is about as important to most people as knowing 88% of American car horns honk in the key of F
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"You want the RFL to clarify one way or the other, why you believe a three point deduction could put off a potential investor?'"
Not so much the 3 point deduction , but if the infringement would hinder any potential SL application ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not so much the 3 point deduction , but if the infringement would hinder any potential SL application ?'"
Well its not going to help is it. It will likely hinder any application, but it wont be the deciding factor.
Once again, it isnt a box ticking exercise.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"Leigh being docked points is about as important to most people as knowing 88% of American car horns honk in the key of F
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Why am I not surprised you know that
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Well its not going to help is it. It will likely hinder any application, but it wont be the deciding factor.
Once again, it isnt a box ticking exercise.'"
I meant would it preclude a club from applying , I doubt it would have any deciding factor as it was a minor technical offence , just be nice to know , I'd hate it to crop up at the last minute , unfortunately these things are important these days
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| Quote ="Starbug"I meant would it preclude a club from applying , I doubt it would have any deciding factor as it was a minor technical offence , just be nice to know , I'd hate it to crop up at the last minute , unfortunately these things are important these days'"
Unless they change the application criteria, no.
The application criteria for the 2015 round of franchises will be released before the start of next season.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Unless they change the application criteria, no.
The application criteria for the 2015 round of franchises will be released before the start of next season.'"
Which is a season too late , and you are wrong , we are in a box ticking situation
Which is the reason I'd be asking , given our current situation
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