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| I see Peacock is bleating again in the RL Express, branding the decision to keep SL a 14 club competition as ‘narrow-minded’. He ideally wants a 10 team SL to prevent player burnout.
Luckily for him he seems to be taking maters into his own hands with his lack of performance yesterday. If he keeps this up he will be more then fresh come the next international.
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| Peacock is an idiot. The more you read about him the more boring and negative he seems. Jon Wilkin has had a few things to say about how things are done in Rugby League in the past. Whenever he had a moan you could see his point and what he was driving at, even if you didn't agree with it or his suggested improvements.
Peacock just seems to moan for the sake of moaning. He'd like to play fewer games, great If he agrees to reduce his salary by the same percentage then perhaps there is room for it. Player burnout indeed
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| Don't remember him moaning about this when he was in his twenties at Bulls.
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| dumba$$! will he accept a 29% pay cut? i dont think so!
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| he is right, there are too many top flight teams and the top players play for too long a season and too many games
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| peacocks winging is reminding me of all the saints players who used to whinge about having to play in the GF after coming first in the league
perhaps this explains leeds poor form is they are distracted with things that dont concern them
peacock should concentrate on being a footy player and leave the running of the RFL to people that know better
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| You know what.
I agree with Dally.
Yes they play too many games, but reducing teams is a BIG step backwards for an expanding game and i'd like to see a reduction in games..on current money though, cant be done.
If you dont like it Jamie, take a rest, its not like the Leeds team doesnt have enough good young forwards to step up. Let Burgess have a hit out.
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| I started watching RL in the 60s.Teams then had 30 league games,challenge cup ties,county cup matches and then the flloodlit cup and John Player cup were introduced.
My team Salford would play Blackpool on Good Friday,Swinton on the Saturday and then Wigan on Easter Monday.These players were part-timers,and all had other jobs.
Whilst I realise we cannot go back to those days and that the game has got faster and probably more intense I do believe that certain players don't realise how lucky they are.
It seems to me that the more professional they become,the less they want to play.Cricketers are another group that spring to mind who want to have their cake and eat it.As others have said,if you want to play less,then take a cut in salary.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"peacocks winging is reminding =#FF40BFme of all the saints players who used to whinge about having to play in the GF after coming first in the league
perhaps this explains leeds poor form is they are distracted with things that dont concern them
peacock should concentrate on being a footy player and leave the running of the RFL to people that know better'"
Youll have to remind me of those quotes,you know, just to prove you havent made it up.
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| Quote ="Don Brennan"Youll have to remind me of those quotes,you know, just to prove you havent made it up.'"
leon pryce was one, and from memory and wilkin the other
one was before the 2nd SL GF loss to leeds.
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| Instead of bleating to the press, why doesn’t he go to his employer, didn’t they vote to keep it at fourteen clubs? – Allegedly
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Peacock is an idiot. The more you read about him the more boring and negative he seems. Jon Wilkin has had a few things to say about how things are done in Rugby League in the past. Whenever he had a moan you could see his point and what he was driving at, even if you didn't agree with it or his suggested improvements.
Peacock just seems to moan for the sake of moaning. He'd like to play fewer games, great
If he agrees to reduce his salary by the same percentage then perhaps there is room for it. Player burnout indeed
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Whilst I don't agree with him on reducing, and I too get a little bit tired of hearing about it all the time. Have you ever thought that as the National captain, and the most respected player in the English game, that he is a voice for other players, rather than just himself?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Whilst I don't agree with him on reducing, and I too get a little bit tired of hearing about it all the time. Have you ever thought that as the National captain, and the most respected player in the English game, that he is a voice for other players, rather than just himself?'"
Who wouldn’t want the same pay for less work?!
I get the impression from the article that this is Peacocks own thoughts on the matter. Other players will no doubt agree, but perhaps they are the ones who are playing international Rugby League, where as the others who are not quite good enough to reach that level are more the happy with how things are, particularly if the players were to take a reduction in wages to reflect the change in workload.
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| Personally, having seen a lot of interviews with Peacock - I think the man should stick to what he's good at and try not to think about the ins and outs of running a league.
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| Quote ="rerykama"I started watching RL in the 60s.Teams then had 30 league games,challenge cup ties,county cup matches and then the flloodlit cup and John Player cup were introduced.
My team Salford would play Blackpool on Good Friday,Swinton on the Saturday and then Wigan on Easter Monday.These players were part-timers,and all had other jobs.
Whilst I realise we cannot go back to those days and that the game has got faster and probably more intense I do believe that certain players don't realise how lucky they are.
It seems to me that the more professional they become,the less they want to play.Cricketers are another group that spring to mind who want to have their cake and eat it.As others have said,if you want to play less,then take a cut in salary.'"
While I don't mean to sound disrespectful to players of that day.. It's not the same.
One simple thing that makes the modern day game impossible to back up three times over a weekend is the HUGE differences in impact between muscle on muscle and fat on fat, people talk about the differences in speed but for me that's the single biggest reason.
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| Quote ="Dico"While I don't mean to sound disrespectful to players of that day.. It's not the same.
One simple thing that makes the modern day game impossible to back up three times over a weekend is the HUGE differences in impact between muscle on muscle and fat on fat, people talk about the differences in speed but for me that's the single biggest reason.'"
Last season, Eddie asked Stevo during a game how his generation of players coped with the schedule and he replied 'we were playing for fun'. He probably didn't quite mean it as it sounds, but his point was that there wasn't the intensity to matches that we see these days.
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| Quote ="Dico"While I don't mean to sound disrespectful to players of that day.. It's not the same.
One simple thing that makes the modern day game impossible to back up three times over a weekend is the HUGE differences in impact between muscle on muscle and fat on fat, people talk about the differences in speed but for me that's the single biggest reason.'"
More lardy pies, not fewer games.
I wonder if players would take less cash for fewer games? I'd take a 20% pay cut for a 4 day week.
Perhaps individual players should be limited to 20 regular season SL games, each season. Coaches would have to manage their squads carefully, it'd give kids more chances and even out the injury curse variable a bit.
The fear would be that fans would pay full whack, and not feel they were getting their money's worth. And coaches sacrificing games they thought they'd lose anyway - Leeds (or whoever happens to be strong at the time) might spend half their season playing virtual reserve teams.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"peacocks winging is reminding me of all the saints players who used to whinge about having to play in the GF after coming first in the league'"
who? when? links to quotes??
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"who? when? links to quotes??'"
i mentioned the players
im not going to waste time with links.
im guessing you just forgot the comments in the wake of leeds beating you in the GF.
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| Graham, Wilkin and Cunningham wasn't it?
And my god didn't they moan, the argument has real credibility but there's just nothing they can do other than be well rested by the coach.
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| Quote ="Dico"Graham, Wilkin and Cunningham wasn't it?
And my god didn't they moan, the argument has real credibility but there's just nothing they can do other than be well rested by the coach.'"
jeeze thats twice in 24 hours youve agreed with me.
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| Quote ="Dico"Graham, Wilkin and Cunningham wasn't it?
And my god didn't they moan, the argument has real credibility but there's just nothing they can do other than be well rested by the coach.'"
those 3 moaned about the Magic Weekend - and Wilkin had a whinge about cameras being in the dressing room at the GF.
Never to my recollection has any Saints player complained about having to play in the GF depsite winning the league. It would be slightly ironic seeing as though Saints were the first team to win the GF after not finishing top of the league.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"i mentioned the players
im not going to waste time with links.
im guessing you just forgot the comments in the wake of leeds beating you in the GF.'"
as i've said, all the players named (except Wilkin) have benefited from the GF and play off system rewarding the team not finishing top becoming champions.
Pryce benefitted more than any other, in 2005 when Bradford finished 3rd in the league and won the GF.
So unless you can provide links/quotes - stop making things up.
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| Wilkin has voiced his opinion about how the team finishing top of the league should be given more prominence and that the playoffs are too heavily weighted
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| Quote ="Hopie"Wilkin has voiced his opinion about how the team finishing top of the league should be given more prominence and that the playoffs are too heavily weighted'"
I dont remember that, but even if it did happen - it is hardly on the scale of:
[i"the saints players who used to whinge about having to play in the GF after coming first in the league"[/i
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