Think this has gone abit under the radar, great achievement , join England, NZ and Australia for the 2016 tournament

shame the RFL pulled the funding last year for RL up in scotland, makes it even more of an achievement

Great achivement but they'll struggle against the big 3. Samoa are better quality by far.

What would happen if Samoa went on to win this years 4N though?

Should be expanded to 5 nations IMO, keep Samoa in.

Crazy that after this performance it will likely bet AT LEAST 3 years before Samoa play the top nations again. How they expect anyone to gain any momentum when they play the big 3 once a generation is beyond me.

Similarly, what do Wales, France and Ireland have to play for now.

Nothing. This 'qualifying' process is nonsense. We could realistically have every test nation playing every other one every other year and we would still play fewer international games than most sports.

Hope that Scotland got at least one home game in the Four Nations. And by that I mean making a proper effort and making an event of it at an established central belt ground in Scotland rather than taking the easy option and playing at Workington.

Need to give Samoa more games against the top nations on the displays this year.I know the side is made up mostly of players who were not wanted before the tournament by NZ and OZ but we need to give these guys more reason for sticking with Samoa long term.This is what the game needs another top tier challenge for the big 3.be a shame to let it go to waste.

If Samoa best Australia, the Aussies will be bottom of the 4N. Can't we just relegate them and have a 4N next year instead with England, Scotland, New Zealand and Samoa? Far better idea than 3 tests.

Wales and Ireland will be taking part in the World Cup qualifiers. France are in the same boat as Fiji and Samoa, nothing to do for the next three years, although I think France will probably have at least one match against New Zealand next year.

It would be good to see the competition expand to 5 nations
Australia, Kiwis and England
with a Pacific team and a European team

We need to keep Samoa in the 4 nations

Never in a million years!

I know but we can dream!

Better to ensure that the SH "2nd tier" nations play in a Bi-annual Pacific Nations competition.

PNG, Tonga, Samoa and Fiji need to meet on a regular basis.....same format as the 4 Nations. The "COST" of flying these teams around could be met through ticket sales, sponsorship and TV rights.

The pacific nations are pretty equal, samoa slightly the better but fiji and png not far behind and Tonga usually give samoa a close game. A tournament next year featuring those 4 plus nz and england would have been better.

The European nations at moment are too far behind to be competitive.

France, Italy (with their NRL players), Scotland, Wales and Ireland and maybe even England Knights would be a good Euro comp
Fiji, Samoa, Tonga PNG and maybe even NZ Maori would be a good PI comp

Leave the big 3 to play each other, let the others grow stronger themselves and personally, I'd like to see a 25% rule for these nations with 25% of the squad actually being from the country they represent.....that's only 6 players from 24 so not too extreme, but a "start" in getting the local comps moving.

I agree, they have to make an effort to play at least one game in Scotland. Can then play another in Workington and then play England in the heartlands somewhere.

what was the attendance for scotlands final game v france?

1432

ahead of the Eng - NZ test series both Nations should be given a warm up game

Send NZ to France

and England should play Scotland, yes to give England a warm up but also to give the Scots a taste of what is to come in the 4 nations

Afterwards Scotland should play France the week after as a stand alone match

Ok only 2 matches each but could be vital for both nations, Keeps france going and gives Scotland some vital prep for the 4 nations

there is a rumour that NZ are playing HullFC at the end of the season as part of our 150th anniversary.

Pointless Scotland been in the 4 nations 3 heavy defeats coming there way even if they fill there team with Scottish Aussies

but they earned the right to be in it

Can they be competitive?

Their squad for this years European Championships:

Danny Addy (Bradford Bulls), Josh Barlow (Swinton Lions), Sam Barlow (Leigh Centurions), Danny Brough (Huddersfield Giants), Harvey Burnett (London Broncos), Brett Carter (Workngton Town), Lewis Clarke (Edinburgh Eagles), Sonny Esslemont (Hull KR), Richard Harris (Warrington Wolves), Ben Hellewell (Featherstone Rovers), Alex Hurst (Tweed Heads Seagulls), Ben Kavanagh (Widnes Vikings), Corbyn Kilday (Wakefield Trinity), Ryan Manelly (Warrington Wolves), Nathan Massey (Canterbury Bulldogs), Joe McLean (Gloucestershire All Golds), Iain Morrison (York City Knights), Finn Murphy (Edinburgh Eagles), Lee Paterson (York City Knights), Brett Phillips (Workington Town), Callum Phillips (Workington Town),Gregor Ramsay (Easterhouse Panthers), Louis Senter (Halifax), David Scott (Doncaster), Jack Stewart (Hull KR), Oscar Thomas (London Broncos), Shane Toal (Barrow Raiders), Adam Walker (Hull KR), Alex Walker (London Broncos), Jonathan Walker (Leigh Centurions), Joe Wardle (Huddersfield Giants).

Add in Matty Russell who played in the World Cup (I think he was injured), Linnett and Wallace from NRL and Ferguson at Bradford.

Either way, they've earnt their chance.