https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/best-in-le ... 2-17378807 End if the road for Castlefords new stadium dream, 2nd site to fall through. They could have mortgaged weldon road and redeveloped it by now after dicking about hoping someone would build them a stadium for free.

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/best-in-le ... 2-17378807 End if the road for Castlefords new stadium dream, 2nd site to fall through. They could have mortgaged weldon road and redeveloped it by now after dicking about hoping someone would build them a stadium for free.

No franchise pressure any more. The delay tactics have worked perfectly.

Idiotic comment, they weren't asking for it for free but a part of a development deal as per Saints, Salford, Hull etc etc. Why give Cas stick because there's failed whilst others didn't talk about forgetting where you came from.

Another bitter poster not living in the real world, there but for the grace of god

Tbh that's a nothing story. Another retailer has recently been added to the list but they clearly haven't reached the trigger point and it's not easy to work out just how close they actually are. One thing that struck me as slightly odd when the last update was given (reading that has reminded me) was the spokesman talking about 'legally binding contracts' which immediately made me wonder whether some retailers were having second thoughts?

Somebody should have let Beaverbrooks know. They have just become the 14th store to agree terms with Axiom.

With the state of the retail sector generally, timing has stuffed the deal, with many of the traditional retailers, holding back and scrapping some of their own expansion.

RL fans are very weird.

Criticise clubs for not upgrading/moving grounds.

Gloat when said ground upgrade/move fails.

The cost of the project will also have significantly increased since first proposal - whether the funding agreement (with a Canadian Teachers' pension fund I think) allows for this increase or they have to find more is unclear. Add in that it sounds as though they've massively overspent to get to where they are.....

As for being dead, I'm not convinced it is yet by any means although there can't be many (any?) retailers left that they haven't already approached. What happens this coming Thursday may well have a big bearing!

I don think the election will make any difference , the retail sector is really suffering due to online business, and may never really recover, I rarely go n real shoe the staff just treat you like you are bothering them as they would rather just be messing on their phones, several is so poor nowadays.

What's idiotic about it, it's a fact Cas have twice been promised FREE new ground and both have fallen through, they have wasted nearly 20 years rather than redeveloping their current ground, Fev managed to do it Leeds Hull Hr have done it, they are now back to square one, when they could have at at least one if not 2 new stands at Weldon road.

But he is right, the smoke and mirrors of Cas and Wakey during the franchise era was so transparent to everyone else but the RFL neither side are any closer to redevelopment or new stadium after nearly 20 years of talk. This Is not a gloat it's just a sad state of affairs, I for one wish both were in new grounds by now and every other club who still play in 1930s relics

No they haven't. The first proposed ground (sorry that's really the 2nd as they proposed one on the site of the old Glasshoughton pit in the 70s

) on the other side of the road, or at least the stadium build, was to be funded by the club themselves. That didn't happen because despite being given the land and obtaining full planning permission they didn't have the money to fund it - selling WR for either housing or a new supermarket was never going to raise the amount required.

I think the thing that annoys a lot of supporters is that the framing the future stuff which came out years ago regarding stadium standards was not adhered to by some clubs as they had new stadiums in the pipeline. Nearly 20 years on and these are still in the pipeline. The danger now is that with potentially some new clubs on the horizon some of the 'plodders' will be discarded if they don't get their acts together. I would love Cas to get a stadium their team and fans deserve but it never seems to other fans to be getting any closer.

Nonsense. Both stadium projects for Trinity were genuine proposals backed by the council. The first was at Thornes Park, but the council pulled the plug. The second was on the back of another development, as per the Saints ground, but the developer refused to build or fund it once they had got what they wanted. They were genuine serious projects, each let down by parties unconnected to Trinity.

Have they got a new stadium yet, have they , have they been for nearly 20 years now producing grand schemes artists impressions etc of stadiums that have never materialised, yes that have. Has so much as a spade ever been stuck in the ground at any proposed site. NO.

So is my post utter nonsense.? no it's not is it.

At the risk of going off an a non RL related tangent, the sooner that Town/ City councils stop building additional "out of town" shopping complexes and instead, start investing in the city/town centres that have become ghost towns, full of charity shops and coffee shops, the better for all of us.

If money was no object and you took politics out of the equation, Cas would be just as well served with a properly re vamped Wheldon Road ground and they could build housing on the proposed 5 towns development.

its like groundhog day on this forum

I certainly remember it taking a while to get planning permission for Newmarket first time round because a certain Leeds City Council stick their beaky noses into it.

As pointed out by an objector during the 'consultation phase' of the planning for the 5 Towns Park project, its building goes against WMDC's own policy.....

It’s total nonsense, I’ve followed both clubs effort and both have tried incredibly hard. It’s nothing to do with smoke and mirrors as I say only an idiot would think that.

For both clubs it’s a mixture of bad luck and an unsupportive Council. We don’t all have a council who are willing to use money from the sale of its telecommunications shares to build a stadium. Or a football club to share the cost with. Or a retail tycoon to stump up the cash.

I don’t resent those clubs getting there lucky breaks but I do resent people like you kicking out at those who were less fortunate. I beleave there is a name for people like you.

Finally you name me a current SL club who have redeveloped or built a stadium without the support of a local authority, a football team or a developer (all three in many cases). Warrington is the only one that springs to mind.

IIRC Warrington's stadium was on the back of a Tesco development. However, several clubs in the 'lower leagues' have managed to redevelop their stadiums significantly without any such help......

I am not kicking out at clubs, but have presented hard facts, both clubs have failed to deliver a modern stadium despite promises and fanciful predictions, FACT. Just because You just don't like it does not make it nonsense, so maybe you should wind your neck in rather than name calling.
Maybe both sides have been trying but both are still nowhere near a new stadium and Cas are now back to the drawing board.

whats happening at wakefield? i seem to remember some artists impressions of redevelopment at their current ground and the fact they were looking at a ground share possibly at barnsley whilst work was being done. is any of this still likely or did i dream it?

with a good sized shiny new seated stand on the donny road side and a full length covered terrace opposite you could have a nice stadium. Same goes for Cas - replace that awful small seated 'main' stand with a full length one and it would make a great difference. i know at cas 2 stands are hemmed in a bit by housing and a main road but there's room on the other 2 sides.

both these grounds must cost the clubs a small fortune in routine and reactive maintainence

of course not