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| Why is this one not on your list of players disgracing rugby league?
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| Quote ="PopTart"Why is this one not on your list of players disgracing rugby league?'"
Because the crimes were committed two years ago. Timoteo Simona's sins are now old news. The more important point now, as the article points out, is that he is begging for forgiveness and the chance at redemption.
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Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"He is unlikely to be able to get permission to rejoin the NRL.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/disgra ... 50r32.html
Timoteo Simona is a very talented centre. He would be a great asset for a Super League club, such as for example London Broncos.'"
Who chuffing cares.
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Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"He is unlikely to be able to get permission to rejoin the NRL.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/disgra ... 50r32.html
Timoteo Simona is a very talented centre. He would be a great asset for a Super League club, such as for example London Broncos.'"
Who chuffing cares.
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| I do not see why not. The concept of redemption is traditionally part of western culture and being able to show true remorse and to earn the right to a second chance is a valuable aspect of our society. Unfortunately modern society seems to hold a contrary view that forgiveness is only for those in the in crowd so that even a single remark, from years before, will see you pilloried if you are not in the right clique whilst if you are one of the favoured few you can get away with murder and still be lauded for it.
Personally I find the aspect of his behaviour which was most obnoxious was the defrauding of charities rather than the betting because I dislike those who prey on the weakest. Having said that if we are willing to give other rule breakers the benefit of the doubt we can extend the same here. He has not murdered anyone and is not a threat to the well being of those around him. One interesting issue is that the ban is indefinite rather than life according to the text. This suggests that the governing body foresaw a route back into the game for the player.
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| Quote ="vastman"Who chuffing cares.'"
Genuine rugby league fans, because the player in question is a real talent.
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| Wrong thread
[urlhttp://viewtopic.php?f=2&t=620354[/url
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Genuine rugby league fans, because the player in question is a real talent.'"
No it’s just a name you’ve pulled out of the air to start yet another meaningless thread. It could be anyone.
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| Can this be merged with "the all new dodgy Australian" thread, please?
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Genuine rugby league fans, because the player in question is a real talent.'"
And yet you link him with London, real talent would be higher up the tree wouldnt you think.
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| The dude can't even get a gig in the boxing ring that speaks volumes. Plus he hasn't played in 2 years and as one of his own mates says, Beau Ryan, " I believe at some stage he does need a second chance. “Whether that’s playing? Probably not, to be honest, I can’t see him playing on the field again".
I know we've become a place for a few 'bad boys' from the NRL to resurrect their career but come on.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"The dude can't even get a gig in the boxing ring that speaks volumes. Plus he hasn't played in 2 years and as one of his own mates says, Beau Ryan, " I believe at some stage he does need a second chance. “Whether that’s playing? Probably not, to be honest, I can’t see him playing on the field again".
I know we've become a place for a few 'bad boys' from the NRL to resurrect their career but come on.'"
"Bad Boy" Gregory Bird has done a great job resurrecting his career in the south of France. So why can't Timoteo Simona?
Whether it be in London or Hull is not the important issue here.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE""Bad Boy" Gregory Bird has done a great job resurrecting his career in the south of France. So why can't Timoteo Simona?
Whether it be in London or Hull is not the important issue here.'"
As a guess, I'd say because Bird had no time away from the game and he's a far better player.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE""Bad Boy" Gregory Bird has done a great job resurrecting his career in the south of France. So why can't Timoteo Simona?
Whether it be in London or Hull is not the important issue here.'"
Resurrecting his career? He has been nothing special since he re joined Catalans, in fact he has been bang average which is far from the player he is/could be, I would suggest more of a extended holiday for him.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Genuine rugby league fans, because the player in question is a real talent.'"
Please ignore the wakefield fans. They dont like threads like this because they would never be able to sign someone of his quality
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"Please ignore the wakefield fans. They dont like threads like this because they would never be able to sign someone of his quality'"
What about probably the best ball handler ever to play in Super League? We signed him twice... that's right Timothy Dean Smith! The same season we brought in Dean Collis former Cronulla Sharks and West Tigers centre, international grade hooker Paul Aiton.
Personally I'd say all three have played at a better standard than Simona and racked up more NRL appearances.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"What about probably the best ball handler ever to play in Super League? We signed him twice... that's right Timothy Dean Smith! The same season we brought in Dean Collis former Cronulla Sharks and West Tigers centre, international grade hooker Paul Aiton.
Personally I'd say all three have played at a better standard than Simona and racked up more NRL appearances.'"
Leading on from them...
THE FLYING FULLBACK Kevin Locke
NSW REP Justin Poore with 170+ NRL apps
NRL GRAND FINAL WINNING Scott Anderson
THE SAMOAN SPEEDSTER Pita Godinet
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Leading on from them...
THE FLYING FULLBACK Kevin Locke
NSW REP Justin Poore with 170+ NRL apps
NRL GRAND FINAL WINNING Scott Anderson
THE SAMOAN SPEEDSTER Pita Godinet'"
Not to mention Australia International Anthony Topou.
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"Please ignore the wakefield fans. They dont like threads like this because they would never be able to sign someone of his quality'"
If it wasn't for the Wakefield fans leeeBron, you'd have nothing to talk about on here why are you still here anyway.
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| Quote ="Towns88"Not to mention Australia International Anthony Topou.'"
Aye, big signing at the time but didn't even bother breaking a sweat when he played.
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| Quote ="LardoCabin"Aye, big signing at the time but didn't even bother breaking a sweat when he played.'"
Tbf to Tupou that wasn't through lack of trying if you watched him play, injuries just took there toll on him. Anyway if it wasn't for him we wouldn't have got Fifita to the Club, so swings and roundabouts.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Leading on from them...
[uTHE FLYING FULLBACK Kevin Locke[/u
NSW REP Justin Poore with 170+ NRL apps
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THE SAMOAN SPEEDSTER Pita Godinet'"
This is a different Kevin Locke than the washed up ex-NRL Full-Back that played a paltry 5 games for Wakey and 16 for Salford right?
Yeah I remember him..... all the talent in the world but he pi$$ed it all away and is now playing Sunday League Rugby in NZ.
Not somebody you should be quoting in an argument unless the title is "most underwhelming players ever to play in Super League"
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Tbf to Tupou that wasn't through lack of trying if you watched him play, injuries just took there toll on him. Anyway if it wasn't for him we wouldn't have got Fifita to the Club, so swings and roundabouts.'"
He was done before he come over, watched him in a reserve grade game and he was walking around the pitch like he needed a hip replacement, top player in his day though. How on earth did he pass his medical? I am guessing at the time Wakey were just desperate to get some quality in.
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"Please ignore the wakefield fans. They dont like threads like this because they would never be able to sign someone of his quality'"
But yet you bring so much to so many threads.
Nah, we could never aspire to sign someone who no one wants to touch, who's now a fitness instructor or something.
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"This is a different Kevin Locke than the washed up ex-NRL Full-Back that played a paltry 5 games for Wakey and 16 for Salford right?
Yeah I remember him..... all the talent in the world but he pi$$ed it all away and is now playing Sunday League Rugby in NZ.
Not somebody you should be quoting in an argument unless the title is "most underwhelming players ever to play in Super League"
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tbh out of all the NRL players we've had he wouldn't be one I'd name. Like you say at one time he was a class player but not while he was over here. Could have named Shane Tronc, one of the best Props I've seen at Trinity or a better pick with the number of games he played and how good he was is Solomona, Paul Aiton as well, even guys in the side now like Bill Tupou or Arona tbh.
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