never understood why Clive Sullivan is not in the hall of fame. also thinking at least two others who currently qualify should be in there.

i was thinking Andy Gregory, John Holmes and Clive Sullivan, Steve Knocker Norton and mike Stephenson all must be candidates. all players who are club greats good international careers and made impact in Australia. (or a mix of those)

John Woods

Great player, very underrated, similar to Darren wright, and John pendlebury

I think more should be made of the hall of fame. Regual inductions for one thing. One or two every year at the man of steel awards for example. Have a short list like the NFL then it is a bit of an event and story.

People from the super league era who'll probably be in are Peacock, Sinfield, Farrell, Sculthope, Cunningham i would have thought

SL era? I'd have to include at least one Bull (I'd include peacock for his feats at Leeds). Big Les for me.

Robbie Paul? Paul Deacon? James Lowes?

& Sir Desmond of Drummond too !!!

Without doubt.

Yep, we should celebrate and honor our former greats more. I like the idea of inductees every year at the MOS ceremony. Perhaps 2 pre SL and 2 SL era players every year?

I think we should follow the NFL HoF rule where you aren't eligible until 5 years after retirement.

I like that we don't have that many in. The scarcity of it makes it a bigger honour IMO. I wouldn't want it saturating.

Membership of the Rugby League Hall of Fame is restricted exclusively to the greatest Rugby League players of all time. Each player must have:

• A record of outstanding achievement at the very highest levels of the game;
• A reputation that transcends the era in which he played;
• Made a contribution to the game that will last as long as rugby league is played.

To be eligible for nomination to the Hall of Fame, players must have:
• Played professional Rugby League in the UK for at least 10 years;
• Played his last professional match in the UK at least 10 years before the date of the Hall of Fame induction ceremony.

That's the official stuff BTW, not my suggestion...

The official guidance should be stuck to. While I agree we should celebrate our heroes we can do that at club level with our own Halls of Fame.

The Official RFL Hall of Fame is for the crème de la crème. For those who won Ashes series or who came very close. For those who excelled in UK and Australian competition. For those that were instrumental in winning trophies. For those who were record try scorers and goalkickers.

For that reason a lot of those mentioned already I’d only really consider Andy Gregory and possibly Clive Sullivan at a push. The rest, although great players, don’t meet the criteria for the top echelon.

Very subjective

It is a bit but being sensible all of the current incumbents meet those criteria. Most of those suggested on this thread so far do not IMO.

Some of the names mentioned in this thread would devalue the whole thing. People are just listing their favourite players from their team who have since retired.

Regards

King James

I agree.

Correct.

Robbie Paul was a fantastic Bradford player and one of the best SL players of that era - however he was marginal as an international (I know 27 caps sounds a lot but it isn'y really) and not that well known in Aus.

Compare that to Mel Reilly or Neil Fox and you have to see the difference.

Of all the players currently around Gareth Ellis, James Graham and of course most notably Sam Burgess are the nearest though neither IMHO really compare with Mel Reilly or Neil Fox.

It is subjective, but one thing is for sure it needs to remain hugely exclusive to have value.

Agreed.

I agree with many of the comments just above mine, but i personally don't think the hall of fame (or we could call it something else) should just be reserved for the greatest players of all time bracket standard, i think players who have had major impact on the game over here should get recognition and it would be a great way of celebrating those players and our history.

Don't the Aussies have an Immortals team for the very, very best and to separate them and added to that a hall of fame that celebrates the best of the rest? that is what needs to be done here imo.

I'm amazed Clive Sullivan is not there as he captained GB to our last world cup final win.

The Immortals are 8 players thought to be the greatest ever by now defunct magazine Rugby League Week. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Immor ... gby_league) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia ... ll_of_Fame The Hall of Fame is open to players, coaches and referees. I'm not sure who decides the membership but they both have the same players in them apart from Joey Johns who hasn't made the Hall of Fame yet. So a bit different to how you describe it Biff. They have an equivalent to the Hall of Fame and a longer list that includes non players. As an aside who would be the British coaches in a Hall of Fame? Referees?

The Immortals are 8 players thought to be the greatest ever by now defunct magazine Rugby League Week. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Immor ... gby_league) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia ... ll_of_Fame The Hall of Fame is open to players, coaches and referees. I'm not sure who decides the membership but they both have the same players in them apart from Joey Johns who hasn't made the Hall of Fame yet. So a bit different to how you describe it Biff. They have an equivalent to the Hall of Fame and a longer list that includes non players. As an aside who would be the British coaches in a Hall of Fame? Referees?

Would be harsh if the likes of Burgess and Graham missed out due to the "10 years playing in UK ruling". Makes no sense as the cream of British talent should always be looking to test themselves against the best in the NRL. The HoF should be exclusive for the very best players. Like said by previous posters, club legends should be honoured by their clubs (Sinfield, Paul etc) but the Hall of Famers need to be top international players as well.

So Burgess, Graham, Peacock & Moz out of the current/recently retired players?
Who's the next back to potentially make the list? Slim pickings.....

Sinfield will be in the hall of fame, (before anyone comes up with he predictable and false he did nothing at international post) Shaun edwards is in there purely on his club reputation, he really did do nothing at international level exept knock out Bradley Clyde. and when he played down under was average at best. Andy gregory easily the better player than edwards. Morley and peacock will be in there, maybe sculthorpe but his injuries and premature end to his career may go against him. Burgess and Graham still have a lot to do before they can be considered hall of famers.

i certainly think we should do more to honor more great players, maybe a walk/roll of honor for great players but leave the hall of fame for people who transcend the game. Clive Suillivan, John Holmes (maybe) Andy gregory defo, and the others in my original post must be considered. oh kevin Ward as well.

Edwards I think got in because he was at the time (probably still is) the most decorated player in the history of the game.

You could argue Sinfield was just as inportant a cog in the Leeds machine as Edwards was in the Wigan one.

IMO neither should be in the Hall of Fame as neither excelled on the international stage to the level of the other hall of fame members.

They were great players but they didn't hit the heights of the other Hall of Fame Members. Let's not water it down because we feel we haven't put anyone in for a while.

Of the other names you mention I'd say only Andy Gregory and Clive Sullivan come close, mainly on their club and international records.

Holmes is a Leeds legend and I'd suggest your allegiance is slightly colouring your judgement. It's like me saying Trevor Foster or Keith Mumby should get in or a Leigh fan proposing John Woods as above.

They're all great players but not on the level of a Rosenfeld or a Murphy.

Morley? Won Grand Final in both hemispheres but not great for GB.

Peacock? Great domestic career. Did well internationally but doesn't transcend the game IMO.

Graham? Not won anything. He's a good player but that's it.

By all means celebrate at a club level but the Hall of Fame is special and for those that are above all others like Bevan, Fox, Boston etc.

I suspect 10 years after Burgess, Peacock, Sinfield, Sculthorpe etc have retired we'll have some context.