FRANCE: Theodore Fages, Thomas Bosc, Lucas Albert, William Barthau

vs

ENGLAND: Lucas Gale, Gareth Widdop, Kevin Brown, George Williams


Which group is more skillful?

I would prefer to choose from the French halves. Fages and Bosc would be my preferred combination for now, with Albert soon to emerge into greatness.

It is pretty obvious really. England has not had decent halves for 20 years. Based upon this fact, France has a chance to catch up with England soon. Once Toulouse makes it into Super League there will be more professional French players to choose from for the national team.

No they are not.

But you're a moron so that's not really saying much.

Tom Bosc had one good season about 10 years ago. Fages can't even get in the worst Saints team in years. The other 2 no one have ever heard of so they don't count. I think you've just made up 2 names from a random name generator. That said, Luke Gale is possibly the worst halfback I've seen in an England shirt

Regards

King James

I don't think we can really argue with this. Our half back failed to kick the ball into touch from a penalty not once, but twice. That's criminal at amateur level.

I just don't see what Widdop brings Gale has been poor but then again who else is there

Think Hodgson took the second missed touch finder, but that's besides the point.

Albert has a lot of potential for the French, Bosc is past it, Fages needs game time and Barthau is a championship player.

It is pretty obvious really. England has not had decent halves for 20 years. Based upon this fact, France has a chance to catch up with England soon. Once Toulouse makes it into Super League there will be more professional French players to choose from for the national team.'"

Quote ="BiltonRobin" Wasn't Sinfield world player of the year in2013 ?'" He was, and most Australians asked: "Kevin who?" That was a feeble attempt at morale boosting by the www.totalrl.com crowd. In any case Kevin Sinfield was primarily a loose forward posing as a half.

Quote ="BiltonRobin" Wasn't Sinfield world player of the year in2013 ?'" He was, and most Australians asked: "Kevin who?" That was a feeble attempt at morale boosting by the www.totalrl.com crowd. In any case Kevin Sinfield was primarily a loose forward posing as a half.

Thomas Bosc is a classy player. Theodore Fages is in the good Saints team when not injured. He has been injured for the second half of the past season.

Rubbish aside, halfback is clearly our biggest problem if everyone is fit. We need Tomkins fit and on form as he provides an excellent link out wide, but we have nobody who can run a game from first receiver.

Theodore Fages can run a game from first receiver. That is why the OP is correct.

Martyn Ridyard.

I suspect he'll be in for a rude awakening next year.

Not certain then?

For those clowns who don't recognise the class of Thomas Bosc, watch this (and it is not just his goal kicking):

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Which English half has this quality field kicking game?

Thats Cunninghams fault for listening to Long.

That is rubbish. Theodore Fages is a first choice half for St Helens when he is not injured. He was injured in mid-season and could hardly play for the rest of the season

Two years from now Theodore Fages and Lucas Albert will form the most potent half combination in the northern hemisphere.

The halfback problem won't improve whilst SL clubs keep prioritising the half back position as an overseas spot. Is it any wonder why in the past we've had to select players like Sculthorpe and Sinfield in the halves?

Ironically, we could have done with either of those two this weekend, preferably both!

Yeah right whatever

Not in the halves though ??

Sinfield was a great player and even better captain for Leeds but, he was never good enough as an international HB.
Sculthorpe again, a fantastic player but, the fact that he (and Andy Farrell) played #6, shows just how long it has been since we had a pair of top quality halves at international level.

Bosc is bang average. If he was better than English halves, why does Myler and before him Pryce get picked ahead of him regularly. Myler isn't good enough for England but still above Bosc, not just my opinion but that of his own coach.

Sinfield would be be a great asset to this current group. We lacked game management, kicking in general play and leadership all of which he brings. Sinfield was good in the 2013 WC, the only real time he had a good squad around him since his early days. Look at the England squads we had from 2007 to 2012 they were really poor compared to now and he unfairly took the brunt of the blame.

with him in this team we would have got the draw against the Kiwis minimum and not have missed two kicks to touch in that first half as well as some awful kick plays which gave the Aussies field position.

Theodore Fages has been named as a starting half for 2017 by the powerful St. Helens club. He will partner Matthew Smith.