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| A fishing article if I ever saw one. Who'd give that much of a toss if he came out with Warrington/Wigan/Leeds/St Helens will win SL? This pretty much sets things up for people to feel the need to comment.
I doubt he actually believes Salford will win it, despite the extensive recruitment drive.
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| That's written by a parody account, right?
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| I think his real thoughts are above. The bit at the bottom is just a throw away comment.
I agree with the above, it would not even get mentioned on here unless he went with an outside bet.
I'm sure Salford will improve, but when I look at who they have brought in there is a sprinkling of talent, but there is also a fair sprinkling of players with better years behind them rather than in front.
I think they can make the top 8, but top 4 would be beyond them.
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| Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.
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| As much chance as my team this year.
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| Shut up you miserable......
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.'"
Whilst they have a long way to go, you could easily have said similar about Huddersfield 10 years ago.
If the Dr continually invests both on and, crucially, off the field I don't see why they can't be a threat in 10 years time.
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| ...And Clarke's mission is now complete.
He's guaranteed himself comment and opinion. That's all it is.
Hey, he's going to be right one day, just probably not this season.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.'"
Fancy a wager on that?
Having been party to the many discussions which Marwan Koukash has held regarding Salford, I am more than confident we'll win Super League within the next 3-5 years. Look at the squad he has assembled in less than 12 months, it's easily top 8 quality. In many ways we were limited to which players were available for 2014 and despite paying transfer fees for Gareth Hock, Rangi Chase, Tim Smith and Harrison Hansen further quality will be added as players contracts expire in 2014, 2015 and beyond.
Both Koukash and Noble have been open about how recruitment for 2015 is already in motion and the calibre of players coming in is only going to improve as the realisation hits (if it hasnt already) that we mean business and are ready to achieve something major.
I cant tell you how different the club is from the one I supported 12 months ago, it really is like a new entity entirely. Where as previously we were training at Leigh Sports Village, we now have a dedicated state of the art training facility/gym within the stadium complete with a players lounge, Richard Hunwicks (formerly of Leeds Rhinos) has come on board as head of strength and conditioning, we have appointed Rob Artingstall (formerly of Sale Sharks) as physio and Sarah O'Neil is our lead soft tissue specialist. All these appointments and changes off the field have been as impressive as the ones on it.
I'm looking forward to little old Salford rattling a few cages in the forthcoming season and beyond.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Fancy a wager on that?
Having been party to the many discussions which Marwan Koukash has held regarding Salford, I am more than confident we'll win Super League within the next 3-5 years. Look at the squad he has assembled in less than 12 months, it's easily top 8 quality. In many ways we were limited to which players were available for 2014 and despite paying transfer fees for Gareth Hock, Rangi Chase, Tim Smith and Harrison Hansen further quality will be added as players contracts expire in 2014, 2015 and beyond.
Both Koukash and Noble have been open about how recruitment for 2015 is already in motion and the calibre of players coming in is only going to improve as the realisation hits (if it hasnt already) that we mean business and are ready to achieve something major.
I cant tell you how different the club is from the one I supported 12 months ago, it really is like a new entity entirely. Where as previously we were training at Leigh Sports Village, we now have a dedicated state of the art training facility/gym within the stadium complete with a players lounge, Richard Hunwicks (formerly of Leeds Rhinos) has come on board as head of strength and conditioning, we have appointed Rob Artingstall (formerly of Sale Sharks) as physio and Sarah O'Neil is our lead soft tissue specialist. All these appointments and changes off the field have been as impressive as the ones on it.
I'm looking forward to little old Salford rattling a few cages in the forthcoming season and beyond.'"
Whilst stating that it wont happen in a lifetime is slightly daft, I think you 3-5 years is almost as daft in the opposite direction.
Unless the salary cap is scrapped and you can persuade 25 of the worlds best players to join the conquest, you ain't going to win in such a short timescale.
Ken Davy has pumped millions into Shudds over a lengthy period of time and he's just got hold of the LLS so you may need to look at 10 years and hope that Dr K remains committed.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Fancy a wager on that?
Having been party to the many discussions which Marwan Koukash has held regarding Salford, I am more than confident we'll win Super League within the next 3-5 years. '"
Nothing's impossible, but you'd need a big slice of luck to pull this off to that timetable. Warrington's revival started around 2002. We moved into the new stadium and started making progress on the playing staff front in 2004. It still took us until 2009 to win the Challenge Cup, and we've still not won SL ( although coming as close to it as possible without winning ). I reckon ten years is much more realistic, and the fans need to accept that and stick with the growth of the club over an extended period. If they really expect top trophies quickly, they are likely to be disappointed and maybe desert the good ship Salford again.
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| I think Salford should do okay, but I do wonder about whether they've brought in too many players who are years past their prime e.g Puletua, Meli and Morley, and too many with discipline problems e.g. Smith, Chase and Hock.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Fancy a wager on that?
Having been party to the many discussions which Marwan Koukash has held regarding Salford, I am more than confident we'll win Super League within the next 3-5 years. Look at the squad he has assembled in less than 12 months, it's easily top 8 quality. In many ways we were limited to which players were available for 2014 and despite paying transfer fees for Gareth Hock, Rangi Chase, Tim Smith and Harrison Hansen further quality will be added as players contracts expire in 2014, 2015 and beyond.
Both Koukash and Noble have been open about how recruitment for 2015 is already in motion and the calibre of players coming in is only going to improve as the realisation hits (if it hasnt already) that we mean business and are ready to achieve something major.
I cant tell you how different the club is from the one I supported 12 months ago, it really is like a new entity entirely. Where as previously we were training at Leigh Sports Village, we now have a dedicated state of the art training facility/gym within the stadium complete with a players lounge, Richard Hunwicks (formerly of Leeds Rhinos) has come on board as head of strength and conditioning, we have appointed Rob Artingstall (formerly of Sale Sharks) as physio and Sarah O'Neil is our lead soft tissue specialist. All these appointments and changes off the field have been as impressive as the ones on it.
I'm looking forward to little old Salford rattling a few cages in the forthcoming season and beyond.'"
As an old b*gg*r who can remember the days when you had the likes of Charlton, Coulman, Fielding and Watkins in you side, hope you can bring those days back - the system needs a good shake-up!
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| Salford need to get a decent Aussie coach to establish a winning culture in the club. Nobby wont win them the toss of a coin.
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"As an old b*gg*r who can remember the days when you had the likes of Charlton, Coulman, Fielding and Watkins in you side, hope you can bring those days back - the system needs a good shake-up!'"
That was a fine team and played some excellent rugby.
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| Quote ="Him"Whilst they have a long way to go, you could easily have said similar about Huddersfield 10 years ago..'"
We still say the same about Huddersfield - they won't ever win super league.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"Nothing's impossible, but you'd need a big slice of luck to pull this off to that timetable. Warrington's revival started around 2002. We moved into the new stadium and started making progress on the playing staff front in 2004. It still took us until 2009 to win the Challenge Cup, and we've still not won SL ( although coming as close to it as possible without winning ). I reckon ten years is much more realistic, and the fans need to accept that and stick with the growth of the club over an extended period. If they really expect top trophies quickly, they are likely to be disappointed and maybe desert the good ship Salford again.'"
What you fail to mention is that whilst SJM funded your revival your club stuck with Cullen, once they finally saw the light and brought in Smith success came pretty quickly.
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| I asked oce before but no one answered - where does the Dr's money derive from?
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| Quote ="Dally"I asked oce before but no one answered - where does the Dr's money derive from?'"
to be fair he is a self made man. Claimed asylum in the uk with his family during the up rest in Kuwait i believe. Studied his ass off got his PHD opened up a business consultancy company grew that whilst still being a Professor in a university, obviously other ventures during the mean time.
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| yes Salford could win Super League in 5-10 years IF Koukash has the patience to stay the course and they recruit wisely. Cannot see it myself. I think Clarke is simply increasing the pressure of expectation on poor old Nobby and raising Koukash's hopes unrealistically...but time will tell...this years target should be top 6 and then push on from there.
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| Quote ="wire quin"en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marwan_Koukash
Dont be lazy use google'"
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Fancy a wager on that?
Having been party to the many discussions which Marwan Koukash has held regarding Salford, I am more than confident we'll win Super League within the next 3-5 years. Look at the squad he has assembled in less than 12 months, it's easily top 8 quality. In many ways we were limited to which players were available for 2014 and despite paying transfer fees for Gareth Hock, Rangi Chase, Tim Smith and Harrison Hansen further quality will be added as players contracts expire in 2014, 2015 and beyond.
Both Koukash and Noble have been open about how recruitment for 2015 is already in motion and the calibre of players coming in is only going to improve as the realisation hits (if it hasnt already) that we mean business and are ready to achieve something major.
I cant tell you how different the club is from the one I supported 12 months ago, it really is like a new entity entirely. Where as previously we were training at Leigh Sports Village, we now have a dedicated state of the art training facility/gym within the stadium complete with a players lounge, Richard Hunwicks (formerly of Leeds Rhinos) has come on board as head of strength and conditioning, we have appointed Rob Artingstall (formerly of Sale Sharks) as physio and Sarah O'Neil is our lead soft tissue specialist. All these appointments and changes off the field have been as impressive as the ones on it.
I'm looking forward to little old Salford rattling a few cages in the forthcoming season and beyond.'"
That's a cool story bro...has Dr Marwan given any targets, KPI's regarding what he expects fans wise to bankroll this "redvolution"? I ask because even if he doubles last years average attendances, he will still need to fork out around 750-800k a year to cover the shortfall. A couple of years of that, even with a couple of play-off games (but I very much doubt a home one) will soon focus his mind...and his wallet.
Don't get me wrong, a few more like him in the game would be brilliant, but Rome wasn't built in a day (but it did burn down that quickly)
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| Quote ="gutterfax"That's a cool story bro...has Dr Marwan given any targets, KPI's regarding what he expects fans wise to bankroll this "redvolution"? I ask because even if he doubles last years average attendances, he will still need to fork out around 750-800k a year to cover the shortfall. A couple of years of that, even with a couple of play-off games (but I very much doubt a home one) will soon focus his mind...and his wallet.
Don't get me wrong, a few more like him in the game would be brilliant, but Rome wasn't built in a day (but it did burn down that quickly)
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If you asked Marwan Koukash what attendances he expects he'd tell you sell outs every week. Realistically we should be aiming for 8,000 averages although this will take a couple of years of reasonable league finishes and cup runs to achieve. The absolute minimum for this season should 5,000.
I'd love to see your calculations to Marwan's 750-800k shortfall though, I assume it includes all major revenue streams such as club/player sponsorships, hospitality, merchandise sales etc?
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