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The game is currently in a state of limbo as clubs await news on what the future holds - particularly in terms of promotion and relegation - and after Lenagan spoke out on Monday, opposition voices have started to be heard.
Halifax's Michael Steele condemned rival chairmen as "self-centred" on Wednesday, with Hall going one step further.
In a statement he said: "Who the hell does Ian Lenagan think he is?
"Like all of us, he has known about this for 12 months. The RFL has been consulting with the clubs at meetings after meetings, and we're all fully aware of what's been going on.
"Then at the eleventh hour before the council meeting, Mr Lenagan goes and puts things in the paper as if he knows nothing.
"He's supposed to be a businessman - has he been going to these meetings, or has he been sending people from the club who haven't informed him?"
Hall, whose Doncaster side were expecting a return to promotion and relegation - a move which would open Super League's currently-closed door to them - went on to suggest Lenagan was never so forceful when with old club London.
"Ian Lenagan is the chairman and owner at Wigan, a very successful club that is winning trophies. If he wants to run the Rugby League, then he should leave Wigan and try and do that," Hall added.
"When he was at Harlequins nobody knew who he was, and he wasn't shouting his mouth off then. For him to have that meeting called off at the last hour and say that he hasn't been informed about anything is nonsense. We were all ready to go to the council meeting.
"I own my club as well, and now we have no idea what's going to happen next year. We have been recruiting players to play at a certain level, and who is he to interfere with that? I thought Rugby League people were family people, with morals.
"But here we have somebody who wants to have secret meetings with clubs, cherry picking the ones he can control. He has his own club to control - he shouldn't be trying to run the whole game."
Hall is not the only Championship chairman to have spoken out on Thursday.
Mark Sawyer, of Dewsbury Rams, was not entirely supportive of the proposed changes - which were essentially to bring in two divisions of 12 - but was happy to go along with the governing body.
"As a club, we were disappointed in the RFL Council Meeting being cancelled," he said.
"The whole game proposal which was to be put in front of us may not be 100 per cent perfect for Dewsbury Rams RLFC, however, as a club we were completely convinced it was in the interest of the whole game - top to bottom.
"We had already decided that there had to be give and take and that the proposal to be put in front of us would not be everything we wanted, but I can say we are in full support of the RFL's proposal and hope that all clubs will eventually get behind it so that the sport may move forward as one."
The RFL has said it will return to the future of the domestic game after the World Cup, which ends on November 30.
Lenagan declined to comment when contacted by Press Association Sport on Thursday, probably because he's a selfish pompous prick.
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The game is currently in a state of limbo as clubs await news on what the future holds - particularly in terms of promotion and relegation - and after Lenagan spoke out on Monday, opposition voices have started to be heard.
Halifax's Michael Steele condemned rival chairmen as "self-centred" on Wednesday, with Hall going one step further.
In a statement he said: "Who the hell does Ian Lenagan think he is?
"Like all of us, he has known about this for 12 months. The RFL has been consulting with the clubs at meetings after meetings, and we're all fully aware of what's been going on.
"Then at the eleventh hour before the council meeting, Mr Lenagan goes and puts things in the paper as if he knows nothing.
"He's supposed to be a businessman - has he been going to these meetings, or has he been sending people from the club who haven't informed him?"
Hall, whose Doncaster side were expecting a return to promotion and relegation - a move which would open Super League's currently-closed door to them - went on to suggest Lenagan was never so forceful when with old club London.
"Ian Lenagan is the chairman and owner at Wigan, a very successful club that is winning trophies. If he wants to run the Rugby League, then he should leave Wigan and try and do that," Hall added.
"When he was at Harlequins nobody knew who he was, and he wasn't shouting his mouth off then. For him to have that meeting called off at the last hour and say that he hasn't been informed about anything is nonsense. We were all ready to go to the council meeting.
"I own my club as well, and now we have no idea what's going to happen next year. We have been recruiting players to play at a certain level, and who is he to interfere with that? I thought Rugby League people were family people, with morals.
"But here we have somebody who wants to have secret meetings with clubs, cherry picking the ones he can control. He has his own club to control - he shouldn't be trying to run the whole game."
Hall is not the only Championship chairman to have spoken out on Thursday.
Mark Sawyer, of Dewsbury Rams, was not entirely supportive of the proposed changes - which were essentially to bring in two divisions of 12 - but was happy to go along with the governing body.
"As a club, we were disappointed in the RFL Council Meeting being cancelled," he said.
"The whole game proposal which was to be put in front of us may not be 100 per cent perfect for Dewsbury Rams RLFC, however, as a club we were completely convinced it was in the interest of the whole game - top to bottom.
"We had already decided that there had to be give and take and that the proposal to be put in front of us would not be everything we wanted, but I can say we are in full support of the RFL's proposal and hope that all clubs will eventually get behind it so that the sport may move forward as one."
The RFL has said it will return to the future of the domestic game after the World Cup, which ends on November 30.
Lenagan declined to comment when contacted by Press Association Sport on Thursday, probably because he's a selfish pompous prick.
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|   Big respect to Doncaster CEO Carl Hall.
I have not liked Ian Lenagan since he made empty speculation about [url=http://richarddelariviere.co.uk/?p=324London Bronco's being in the play offs by 2010 plus emulating top achievements on a regular basis not seen for the club since the 1999 cup final against Leeds and when they beat Canberra Raiders in 1997[/url. Instead of remaining faithful to London he buggered off to his hometown club as soon as he could and introduced the most vicious form of rugby league ever seen in recent years by bringing Micheal Maguire over from Australia. Micheals tactics leave a legacy at the club to this day as seen with the tackle on Stefan Ratchford in the recent Super League Grand Final.
However Lenagans biggest crime to this date (apart from his recent meddling with the RFL) was how he handled Gareth Hock when the player wanted out of his club. Not only was Hock loaned out to another club deemed not a rival to Wigans 2013 season, Hock was banned from playing against his former club and missed out on a chance to play for a rival club that would suit his talents more. Thankfully Hocks Widnes adventure hasn't affected him much and he's now in the England squad to face the Aussie in the upcoming world cup.
Wigan fans will probably not agree with the above but reading the Wigan boards I know that many weren't too pleased with how the Tomkins contract was handled by Ian Lenagan!
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Selfish prick?
Charming
Weird that he is being backed by 97% of player, 6 other SL clubs and BARLA.
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Loving or hating lenaghan aside,
I think the clubs have a right to be concerned with the direction the sport is taking, and many of the clubs at the top, Warrington Wigan Saints etc need a strong rugby league to grow themselves further.
You might not agree with how it's been done or what particular topic has been used, or how it's been gone about, or whose been chosen as the front man of the so called rebellion, it may of been more strongly argued by other chairmen but lenaghan was chosen as the front man as they thought it more pertinent coming from the champion club and that's why he refused to comment. We don't know the whole story.
And a chairman arguing that a system should be put in place as it benefits his team, calling a person self interested because they disagree about it for there's seems a bit contradictory to me ...
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"You might not agree with how it's been done or what particular topic has been used, or how it's been gone about, or whose been chosen as the front man of the so called rebellion, it may of been more strongly argued by other chairmen but lenaghan was chosen as the front man as they thought it more pertinent coming from the champion club and that's why he refused to comment. We don't know the whole story.'"
Lanagan wanted things to change for what he saw for the better at London and look how that turned out. He left them in a worse state than he found them in. Going on his past record He will do the same with Wigan and Rugby League if he has his way. Intentional or unintentional I don't know but there's something not so right with him. |
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Lanagan wanted things to change for what he saw for the better at London and look how that turned out. He left them in a worse state than he found them in. Going on his past record He will do the same with Wigan and Rugby League if he has his way. Intentional or unintentional I don't know but there's something not so right with him.'"
I don't know if "the lenaghan effect" is intentional or not either, and if this had been a one man crusade I'd of agreed, but given the other clubs involved, is what makes me more convinced in these clubs begging the question: where is our sport going?
And I certainly hope he does to Wigan as a Saints fan  (I don't really wish any club into financial trouble!) |
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Lanagan wanted things to change for what he saw for the better at London and look how that turned out. He left them in a worse state than he found them in. Going on his past record He will do the same with Wigan and Rugby League if he has his way. Intentional or unintentional I don't know but there's something not so right with him.'"
Point of order.
IL was happy to keep his stake in London and continue bankrolling the expansion of the game....the RFL and the whiny little pricks who are now complaining cried foul and essentially killed London's SL team. His track record is excellent...he's added 20% to Wigan's crowds and made them self sustainable whilst SELLING PLAYERS and the conveyer belt looks pretty nifty too.
IL is the best thing to happen to British RL since Murdoch bought the game in my opinion......
As I have posted elsewhere on this matter.....the RFL and Championship Chairmen counted their chickens before they were hatched. Why should SL clubs subsidise the Championship? Because the RFL haven't managed to generate enough cash.........it's the RFL's own fault. |
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Point of order.
IL was happy to keep his stake in London and continue bankrolling the expansion of the game....the RFL and the whiny little pricks who are now complaining cried foul and essentially killed London's SL team. His track record is excellent...he's added 20% to Wigan's crowds and made them self sustainable whilst SELLING PLAYERS and the conveyer belt looks pretty nifty too.
IL is the best thing to happen to British RL since Murdoch bought the game in my opinion......
As I have posted elsewhere on this matter.....the RFL and Championship Chairmen counted their chickens before they were hatched. Why should SL clubs subsidise the Championship? Because the RFL haven't managed to generate enough cash.........it's the RFL's own fault.'"
I feel for the overall benifit, he could have lifted his hand a bit earlier |
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Sorry Mr Hall, did Ian Lenagan or the RFL cancel the RFL meeting? Is he the sole opponent of their plans or representing a majority of SL clubs? Is he actually trying to run the game is you repeatedly assert? Are you really so surprised they waited until the SL season was over before going public with their concerns and opposition? Do you really think they should all sit back and accept something they're unhappy about and feel could be damaging? Are you in fact, having a hissy fit?
How about instead, Mr Hall, you wind your neck in, pick up your dummy, act a little more professionally and try to appreciate a great many people in the game oppose what the RFL are proposing and indeed have zero confidence in their leadership. I'm sorry your plans were disrupted and the late timing didn't suit but tough.
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| Quote ="Starbug"I feel for the overall benifit, he could have lifted his hand a bit earlier'"
Playing the RFL at their own game. Their timing of this EGM would have been around it being close to RLWC 2013 and the premise that nobody would rock the boat or damage the game so close to the event.
As it is, the RFL are now faced with the real possibility of a breakaway by the top clubs. Given that IL and the other chairmen who are "unhappy" are all successful businessmen, tubby Nigel may well be out of his depth. |
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Point of order.
IL was happy to keep his stake in London and continue bankrolling the expansion of the game....the RFL and the whiny little pricks who are now complaining cried foul and essentially killed London's SL team. His track record is excellent...he's added 20% to Wigan's crowds and made them self sustainable whilst SELLING PLAYERS and the conveyer belt looks pretty nifty too.
IL is the best thing to happen to British RL since Murdoch bought the game in my opinion......
As I have posted elsewhere on this matter.....the RFL and Championship Chairmen counted their chickens before they were hatched. Why should SL clubs subsidise the Championship? Because the RFL haven't managed to generate enough cash.........it's the RFL's own fault.'"
Ian Lenagan in not agreeing with the rules shocker. If Ian Lenagan had choosen the London club over Wigan then who knows what may of happened. Instead he left London high and dry to run his hometown club. Ian Legan blaming the RFL for him having to resign from London is nothing but good PR to make him look dandy.
Best thing to happen to RL since Murdoch  
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Ian Lenagan in not agreeing with the rules shocker. If Ian Lenagan had choosen the London club over Wigan then who knows what may of happened. Instead he left London high and dry to run his hometown club. Ian Legan blaming the RFL for him having to resign from London is nothing but good PR to make him look dandy. '"
He was told he had to stop his investment in the club by the RFL.......HIS company SPORTS CAFE remained as our main shirt sponsor with his other company WORKPLACE SYSTEMS on the back. If he was so self serving, we'd have not had considerable revenues from him for a couple of years after he was told to stop "investing". The RFL couldn't do a thing about it, but he made it clear he would have been happy to stay at London....no PR, no spin, just plain facts.
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Yep......you lolling isn't going to change my opinion of the guy either.
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Those championship clubs have provided those super league clubs with a lot of players over the years. '"
Boo ing hoo....Doncaster averaged 719 fans last year...the soccer club has the 2nd lowest average in their division....Doncaster would add nothing to SL.....the only self serving prick I can see here is the chairman of Doncaster who is unhappy his club might not get the extra cash it wanted.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"He was told he had to stop his investment in the club by the RFL.......HIS company SPORTS CAFE remained as our main shirt sponsor with his other company WORKPLACE SYSTEMS on the back. If he was so self serving, we'd have not had considerable revenues from him for a couple of years after he was told to stop "investing". The RFL couldn't do a thing about it, but he made it clear he would have been happy to stay at London....no PR, no spin, just plain facts.'"
So you're ok with Ian Lenagan subsidizing a struggling super league club (possibly because it's yours) but you're not ok with Super League clubs subsidizing championship clubs? 
Yes it is a fact that Ian continued to financially support London after he was told to give up his shares by the RFL but he carried on financially supporting them because he has an agenda which is now becoming very clear. He will use the fact he financially assisted London and the RFL's opposition against it as a stick to whack them with.
Quote Boo loving hoo....Doncaster averaged 719 fans last year...the soccer club has the 2nd lowest average in their division....Doncaster would add nothing to SL.....the only self serving prick I can see here is the chairman of Doncaster who is unhappy his club might not get the extra cash it wanted.'"
And London averaged how many fans this year despite been in SL? Is it fair that your more than happy for Ian to subsidize London in the past (maybe present and future too) and not super league clubs subsidize championship clubs in the future? |
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"So you're ok with Ian Lenagan subsidizing a struggling super league club (possibly because it's yours) but you're not ok with Super League clubs subsidizing championship clubs?
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Yep.....because if IL wants to plough cash into anything, it's up to him, but the RFL taking cash from SL clubs to pay Championship clubs because they can't ing generate revenue is a totally different thing.
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You don't like him? Fine. In the 1980'S as a theatrical producer he'd done enough to buy a nice BMW.....he sold the BMW in 1984 so he could set up a new business...he pocketed 19,000,000 quid in 2011 for that company. I'd trust his business acumen over the RFL and a bitter mid-level Kiwi Rugby player turned jack of all trades at Doncaster.
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"And London averaged how many fans this year despite been in SL? '"
3 times the Doncaster number...why?
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Is it fair that your more than happy for Ian to subsidize London in the past (maybe present and future too) and not super league clubs subsidize championship clubs in the future?'"
Perfectly fair......IL will invest his cash wherever he wants, but he will not stand around and watch the RFL waste money he has helped them earn.
Put it this way, SL could survive (probably thrive) outside the RFL......the RFL would cease to exist pretty sharpish if SL left them taking the SKY TV deal with them. |
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Yep.....because if IL wants to plough cash into anything, it's up to him, but the RFL taking cash from SL clubs to pay Championship clubs because they can't loving generate revenue is a totally different thing.'"
And IL wanted to plough cash into the RFL otherwise he wouldn't have done so by now and stayed well away from rugby league as it wouldn't be worth it. Unless he saw that getting involved with rugby league in this country comes with collateral damage of paying taxes to the RFL. Well boo-hoo if Ian doesn't like a system that has improved things for the championship - think of the extensive Premier Sports coverage. Keep things going like this and who knows what improvements are in store for the championship thanks to RFL intervention.
Quote You don't like him? Fine. In the 1980'S as a theatrical producer he'd done enough to buy a nice BMW.....he sold the BMW in 1984 so he could set up a new business...he pocketed 19,000,000 quid in 2011 for that company. I'd trust his business acumen over the RFL and a bitter mid-level Kiwi Rugby player turned jack of all trades at Doncaster. '"
The game is worth more than Ian Lenagans millions. For example Leeds Rhinos are owned by Paul Caddick who is worth well over £150,000,000 and doesn't appear to be backing Lenagan. I'd trust Caddick and Heatherington over Lenagan anyday. Nice try!
Caddicks other hobbie than rugby league is shooting and it's a shame he can't legally shoot Lenagan out of the game!
Quote 3 times the Doncaster number...why?'"
Whats to say Doncaster can't get that in SL?
Quote Perfectly fair......IL will invest his cash wherever he wants, but he will not stand around and watch the RFL waste money he has helped them earn.
Put it this way, SL could survive (probably thrive) outside the RFL......the RFL would cease to exist pretty sharpish if SL left them taking the SKY TV deal with them.'"
It's only Ian Lengan who has wasted his money if he didn't want it going into the hands of the RFL. The RFL put that money into some good use for the whole game and not just where IL and his merry men want it (they clubs own back pocket).
Leeds Rhinos seem to be doing alright in Super League which is regarded as one of the best run clubs in the league. A breakaway will probably see things remain the same for a while with little improvement. Reguardless I look forward to seeing how all this pans out but hopefully for the best! |
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"And IL wanted to plough cash into the RFL otherwise he wouldn't have done so by now and stayed well away from rugby league as it wouldn't be worth it. Unless he saw that getting involved with rugby league in this country comes with collateral damage of paying taxes to the RFL. Well boo-hoo if Ian doesn't like a system that has improved things for the championship - think of the extensive Premier Sports coverage. Keep things going like this and who knows what improvements are in store for the championship thanks to RFL intervention. '"
Extensive, coverage and Premier Sports are three words I have never seen together in the same sentence...
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"The game is worth more than Ian Lenagans millions. For example Leeds Rhinos are owned by Paul Caddick who is worth well over £150,000,000 and doesn't appear to be backing Lenagan. I'd trust Caddick and Heatherington over Lenagan anyday. Nice try! '"
I said over the RFL and Carl Hall. The Guy at Leeds has neither come out in support nor has he said he's against IL and the other clubs....
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are you 5yrs old?
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Whats to say Doncaster can't get that in SL?'"
Nothing.....the point is all SL clubs, including London need to be averaging 10k. Nothing to say that all the clubs in Britain couldn't get that average, but currently, Doncaster Rovers in the more popular code aren't even close to that number....
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"It's only Ian Lengan who has wasted his money if he didn't want it going into the hands of the RFL. The RFL put that money into some good use for the whole game and not just where IL and his merry men want it (they clubs own back pocket). '"
IL has not said he didn't want to give the RFL money.....he has said he wants to examine various key points as well as explore and identify why the RFL have failed to monatise the sport effectively. It's all well and good saying that in an ideal world, the sport could trickle down revenue through the leagues but in reality, without SKY TV and SL the game as a professional sport is ed.
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Leeds Rhinos seem to be doing alright in Super League which is regarded as one of the best run clubs in the league. A breakaway will probably see things remain the same for a while with little improvement. Reguardless I look forward to seeing how all this pans out but hopefully for the best!'"
Leeds and Wigan, with maybe FC and Wire are examples of how it should be done.....if we could find 8 more like them, then the whole issue of money for the lower leagues wouldn't matter as the game would be a lot wealthier. If the RFL really want to generate revenue they need to get the average attendances over 10k across the board.....
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Extensive, coverage and Premier Sports are three words I have never seen together in the same sentence...
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Well it's happened and Premier Sports introduction to rugby league through the championship surely got them involved with covering the RLWC2013.
Quote I said over the RFL and Carl Hall. The Guy at Leeds has neither come out in support nor has he said he's against IL and the other clubs....'"
Well how convenient that you forgot others who don't fit into your argument!
Quote Nothing.....the point is all SL clubs, including London need to be averaging 10k. Nothing to say that all the clubs in Britain couldn't get that average, but currently, Doncaster Rovers in the more popular code aren't even close to that number.... '"
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DoncasterAccording to the 2011 census, the estimated population of the Metropolitan Borough of Doncaster is 302,400[/url so who are you to say Doncaster can't have a well attended rugby league club if the people had a top team to support? For starters Doncaster is nearer the rugby league heartland than London is so has the potential to become the number one sporting night in the area. London Broncos on the other hand are competing with popular football and rugby union clubs.
Ian Lenagan as shown with London would rather back a dead horse when it comes to sport. I'm not saying rugby league is dead in the capital but professionally it seems on it's deathbed. Doncaster
Quote IL has not said he didn't want to give the RFL money.....he has said he wants to examine various key points as well as explore and identify why the RFL have failed to monatise the sport effectively. It's all well and good saying that in an ideal world, the sport could trickle down revenue through the leagues but in reality, without SKY TV and SL the game as a professional sport is loved.
Leeds and Wigan, with maybe FC and Wire are examples of how it should be done.....if we could find 8 more like them, then the whole issue of money for the lower leagues wouldn't matter as the game would be a lot wealthier. If the RFL really want to generate revenue they need to get the average attendances over 10k across the board.....
If there was a split, I can see it being a 10 team comp pretty much owned by the 10 clubs involved.'"
By the looks of things IL and the other breakaway chairmen want the RFL to be a revolving door where money goes out of the pockets into the RFL then back into the pockets of chairmen.
The game has got a lot wealthier with the introduction of Marwan Koukash (he too isn't above the RFL) who I'm sure won't be the last wealthy businessman to enter rugby league..
Regarding your views of how the split would end up working your probably correct but hopefully it won't happen for the good of the game. |
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I didn't forget anyone, I said Carl Hall and the RFL.
Doncaster RLFC would do well to average 6k.
Professional RL in London is 99.9% sure to disappear this winter unless there are a lot of rule changes. This is not speculation BTW.
SL generates the lions share of the RFL turn over and therefore, if the SL chairmen are concerned about how that money is being spent, they have every right to speak up.
The Good Dr certainly talks a good game and I wish him and Salford well, but let's discuss them in a couple of years, because if the fans don't flock and the trophies don't get won, I suspect he'll be offski!
RL is a rich mans hobby. David Hughes, Ken Davy etc have ploughed Millions into the game with little hope of ever seeing a penny back. Not saying we won't see more like them, but they certainly don't grow on trees!
I don't see a 10 team SOOPER DOOPER LEAGUE comp as a bad thing for the game. The 10 club owners working for a common goal of more money would essentially raise the profile of the game.
One thing is for sure....we can't stay as we are! |
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In todays news we find out Damo is still an Idiot despite the pleas for forgiveness and new career path as a site columnist.
Anybody who tries to blame London predicament on IL either knows nothing or have a biased personal opinion against IL, think your the latter but not sure Damo.
But don't worry championship clubs your being represented by a modern day Robin Hood in Damo lol
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"And IL wanted to plough cash into the RFL otherwise he wouldn't have done so by now and stayed well away from rugby league as it wouldn't be worth it. Unless he saw that getting involved with rugby league in this country comes with collateral damage of paying taxes to the RFL. Well boo-hoo if Ian doesn't like a system that has improved things for the championship - think of the extensive Premier Sports coverage. Keep things going like this and who knows what improvements are in store for the championship thanks to RFL intervention.
The game is worth more than Ian Lenagans millions. For example Leeds Rhinos are owned by Paul Caddick who is worth well over £150,000,000 and doesn't appear to be backing Lenagan. I'd trust Caddick and Heatherington over Lenagan anyday. Nice try!
Caddicks other hobbie than rugby league is shooting and it's a shame he can't legally shoot Lenagan out of the game!
Whats to say Doncaster can't get that in SL?
It's only Ian Lengan who has wasted his money if he didn't want it going into the hands of the RFL. The RFL put that money into some good use for the whole game and not just where IL and his merry men want it (they clubs own back pocket).
Leeds Rhinos seem to be doing alright in Super League which is regarded as one of the best run clubs in the league. A breakaway will probably see things remain the same for a while with little improvement. Reguardless I look forward to seeing how all this pans out but hopefully for the best!'"
If they think a breakaway league of 6 or 7 clubs can continue to attract the crowds, Sky coverage and viewer ratings and fill Old Trafford each year , all this minus the Wembley Final and any money from the BBC, then good luck to them.
As to the RFL, if they break away, I say what don't kill you makes you stronger and i don't think the loss of the magnificient 7 will kill the rest of the game. seriously harm it maybe but not kill it |
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Point of order.
IL was happy to keep his stake in London and continue bankrolling the expansion of the game....the RFL and the whiny little pricks who are now complaining cried foul and essentially killed London's SL team. His track record is excellent...he's added 20% to Wigan's crowds and made them self sustainable whilst SELLING PLAYERS and the conveyer belt looks pretty nifty too.
IL is the best thing to happen to British RL since Murdoch bought the game in my opinion......
As I have posted elsewhere on this matter.....the RFL and Championship Chairmen counted their chickens before they were hatched. Why should SL clubs subsidise the Championship? Because the RFL haven't managed to generate enough cash.........it's the RFL's own fault.'"
Dead right. What worries me about some RL fans and officials is the hatred of the success IL has achieved. There seems to be a default viewpoint that being better at something than others is a terrible thing. I also cannot understand the feeling of entitlement that feeds the view that well organised, successful clubs who put the effort in should then give the fruits of their labour to those who are failures.... |
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Ian Lenagan has twice the IQ of anyone at the RFL headquarters.
Ian Lenagan is a more succcessful businessman outside the sport than anyone else in rugby league.
Ian Lenagan is the most fan oriented and fan sensitive chairman of a club whom I have ever seen. That was as true at London as it is at Wigan.
The owner of Doncaster might do well to think about how he might recruit a few thousand more fans to his club's games before he goes out to criticise one of the most succesful club chairmen that rugby league has ever known.
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Sounds like the game could do without the likes of 'Damo-Leeds' so it can move forward and prosper. Too may eeeeayeup types and introverted lot in RL that keeps the game confined to ex-mining towns and large social housing suburbs/slums.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Ian Lenagan has twice the IQ of anyone at the RFL headquarters.
Ian Lenagan is a more succcessful businessman outside the sport than anyone else in rugby league.
Ian Lenagan is the most fan oriented and fan sensitive chairman of a club whom I have ever seen. That was as true at London as it is at Wigan.
The owner of Doncaster might do well to think about how he might recruit a few thousand more fans to his club's games before he goes out to criticise one of the most succesful club chairmen that rugby league has ever known.'"
If you can't be successful at the biggest, most successful club the game has ever known for the last 100 years then you aren't very good at business.
A better test would be for the said Chairman to take over Doncaster or Sheffield or even Castleford. If he did that and made any one of them as successful or even half as successful as Wigan then I would second the accolades you are bestowing upon him.
Being a successful chairman at Wigan does not really have much degree of difficulty to it.
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Being a successful chairman at Wigan does not really have much degree of difficulty to it.
It's kind of like being Michael jordan's coach.'"
You do know the state we were in with this guy took over dont you?
You do know we were making big losses? Had umpteen foreign players? Weren't promoting youth players? Were breaking the salary cap?
All that on top of winning nowt.
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Big respect to Doncaster CEO Carl Hall. 
(I don't really wish any club into financial trouble!)
