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| It has been confirmed tonight that Super League will be reduced to 12 teams from 2015, and the bottom two clubs in 2014 will be relagated. The RFL exploring the two options of 12 team structures they have.
Mid Season split of 3 league of 8 teams or 2 leagues of 12 teams with promotion and relegation are the structures.
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| Surely the fact its 12 teams from 2015 rules out the first option?
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| Oh great.
Back to packing your team full of journeymen imports and old pros in an attempt to avoid relegation. Sod youth development, sod long term projects.
Let's just throw it all away to satisfy a couple of thousand fans of Championship clubs.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Oh great.
Back to packing your team full of journeymen imports and old pros in an attempt to avoid relegation. Sod youth development, sod long term projects.
Let's just throw it all away to satisfy a couple of thousand fans of Championship clubs.'"
Throw what away, reserves, pointless fixtures, mediocrity, divisiveness, badly run clubs ??
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| Will only serve to further increase the gap between the top and bottom of super league. Can't wait :-/
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Oh great.
Back to packing your team full of journeymen imports and old pros in an attempt to avoid relegation. Sod youth development, sod long term projects.
Let's just throw it all away to satisfy a couple of thousand fans of Championship clubs.'"
Won't happen due to the Fed trained rules. Clubs can only have a maximum of 5 players who were trained outside Europe and have to have at least 5 (I think) who have come through their own youth system in their squad.
I'm just hoping they forget this mid season split idea and just have 2 leagues of 12
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| hope they decided to bring back the A team comp or u23s too!
wasn't the dual reg fiasco on the agenda too?
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| Quote ="number 6"hope they decided to bring back the A team comp or u23s too!
wasn't the dual reg fiasco on the agenda too?'"
Totally agree. U23 or U21 with the option to play up to 3 overage players. I don't mind the duel reg but it should be restricted to players under the age of 21.
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| Good news for us fans of the big clubs, no-one is going to be able to grow to challenge us now. Next 10-15 years might see another six titles for Leeds.
We are seeing another cowardly regression of the game ala 2000. Never mind at least 3k might see Leeds put 60 on fev
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| Quote ="Nostradamus's lad"Throw what away, reserves, pointless fixtures, mediocrity, divisiveness, badly run clubs ??'"
Aye, nobody ever went bust or ran their club badly under P&R, did they?
Still, it might create one final round game that Sky can show and make a piece of sporting theatre out of. Will also give fans of Championship clubs a chance to feel part of the big time for one season. Ask Leigh what a positive effect getting relegated had on their club.
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| I don't see how shrinking the league helps the game to grow.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Aye, nobody ever went bust or ran their club badly under P&R, did they?
Still, it might create one final round game that Sky can show and make a piece of sporting theatre out of. Will also give fans of Championship clubs a chance to feel part of the big time for one season. Ask Leigh what a positive effect getting relegated had on their club.'"
You take some you lad
Lost count how many have failed under your franchise fairy land nonsense
As for the clown smokey he must be seething
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| no word on Toulouse either
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| Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Loving the dummy spits. It's made my day this.
Didn't know Championship clubs were so powerful Smokey!! You massive tool. Lol.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Aye, nobody ever went bust or ran their club badly under P&R, did they?
Still, it might create one final round game that Sky can show and make a piece of sporting theatre out of. Will also give fans of Championship clubs a chance to feel part of the big time for one season. Ask Leigh what a positive effect getting relegated had on their club.'"
While relegation isnt normally seen as a positive, it is usually balanced by a promotion, a bit like all sports and matches, you win some, you lose some, and just for the record Leigh did not suffer any financial meltdown by virtue of their SL stint or the subsequent relegation
Also on record, I think a change right now is a bad decision
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| Not sure why people are having a go at the champ clubs, this was put to a vote to the existing SL clubs and they rejected the option of remaining a 14 team league.
I have to say as a Bulls fan with the size of our current squad, I am already sh*tting myself at the prospect of finishing in the bottom two.
I just don't see how it is even remotely fair for us to be operating on half of the funding as everyone else, in such a massively critical year that 2014 will now surely be for those clubs under threat.
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| It's alright no doubt we'll scrap P & R in 5 years time for something 'innovative'.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Oh great.
Back to packing your team full of journeymen imports and old pros in an attempt to avoid relegation. Sod youth development, sod long term projects.
Let's just throw it all away to satisfy a couple of thousand fans of Championship clubs.'"
So us Championship fans with our moaning on an internet message board have convinced the SL Chairmen and the RFL hierarcy to change the structure of the sport
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| Quote ="Nothus"Not sure why people are having a go at the champ clubs, this was put to a vote to the existing SL clubs and they rejected the option of remaining a 14 team league..'"
Because its convenient for idiots like Smokey to blame Championship clubs rather than admit that SL CLUBS can't make the current system work.
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| I think the decision to go to 12 teams is the right call. I don't think 14 teams has worked and the play-off system is a real farce.
The decision to go to P&R is something that I do not necessarily agree with though. I don't think there is the money in the sport to justify clubs at the bottom of the league busting a gut to merely survive. Also, I don't see how a Championship club is going to come up and be able to survive in the league in their first season. The gap is too big and I fear that this is a recipe for a disaster to do this now.
A revamped licensing system that is fair would have been my preferred option with 2 leagues of 12.
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| Why is this happening? Why are we going back to a system that was unsuccessful for years?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Aye, nobody ever went bust or ran their club badly under P&R, did they?
Still, it might create one final round game that Sky can show and make a piece of sporting theatre out of. Will also give fans of Championship clubs a chance to feel part of the big time for one season. Ask Leigh what a positive effect getting relegated had on their club.'"
Or a part of Rugby League !
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| Quote ="headhunter"Why is this happening? Why are we going back to a system that was unsuccessful for years?'"
Go and ask SL clubs. They've driven this decision. Maybe something's wrong with the franchise system? Duh!
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| Quote ="littlerich"Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Loving the dummy spits. It's made my day this.
Didn't know Championship clubs were so powerful Smokey!! You massive tool. Lol.'"
Cutting the league down to 12 isn't down to championships clubs and isn't dependent on any return to P+R. It is a cowardly regression of the game entirel down to the SL clubs and RFL Leadership.
Nobody in the game should be celebrating this
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| Quote ="littlerich"Go and ask SL clubs. They've driven this decision. Maybe something's wrong with the franchise system? Duh!'" I don't care who made the decision, it shouldn't have been allowed to happen. If SL clubs are incapable of doing what is best for the sport then they should not be involved in the decision-making process.
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