there could be a shock who reaches the play offs, you never know who could get in and drop out. contenders for top 8 are:

Giants - realistically will get in
FC - same for fc
KR
Bulls
Wakey
Reds

views, who will make it?

My heart says bulls but my head says kr

It's going to be between Bulls and KR for the 8th spot games left

Bulls- Hudd A, Hull H, Catalan A

KR- Wakey H Wigan A, London A

Bradford can win all them games with the way they have been going Catalan away is a tough ask

KR Wigan away is a loss other 2 are turn up and win

Wakefield play Saints, Widnes, Hull KR and Salford. Even if we loose against Saints, we can still get 3 wins so why not! Will be tough, but we can dream!

When Melbourne broke the cap rules in Oz (paying lots of money, for players they COULD afford and NOT leaving local businesses in the mire, by not paying their bills), the punishment from the NRL was swift and harsh - stripped of titles and unable to earn competition points.

When Bradford pay lots of money on players they can't afford, go into administration, leaving many companies (and their employees), in considerable difficulties, what do we do?

The RFL pay for them to keep the squad of players they can't afford and we rejoice in the miracle that they might make the 8, in the face of all that adversity (that's the adversity they have created themselves).

It's perverse!

Slightly different circumstances in that Melbourne dleiberately spent over the cap. Thats actually called cheating. Bradford had appaling management. But don't let facts get in the way, of your rant.

Typical one-eyed Bulls response, not wanting to actually read what I put!

It's perverse that a club that CAN afford such players, is heavily (and rightly), penalised, whilst we bend over backwards to help a club who have paid players they CAN'T afford.

It's even more perverse that we then actually PAY their wage bill for them, to allow them to keep those players!

What a load of crap. Unbelievable. The inquest hasn't even started into what the fook has gone on at flagship license holding Super League club Bradford. To brush it off as simply "appalling management" is laughable. I'd start with that £200k wage bill for a starters . . . .

By the way - I hope Bradford do make the top 8 and progress thereafter to the GF - it will show the lunacy and the inequity of a feeble six point deduction for basically dragging the game through the crapper for the last three months. The people running this game need to grow a set of balls.

I'm guessing that by 'grow a set of balls' you mean 'penalise Bradford beyond the limits allowed by the Operational Rules'.

Yeah - that ought to improve the reputation of RL beyond all measure.

It really isn't. One is a direct punishment for a clear and deliberate breach of regulations, the other is a consequence of bad management. The two rarely have similar penalties in [iany[/i sport.

Plus we don't even know the final outcome of the situation the Bulls currently reside in. It's still entirely possible that the club will either end up in the Championship or cease to exist at all. Would either of those outcomes sate your desire for blood?

Oh, by the way, it's not that different - Bulls deliberately spent money they knew they didn't have. At least Storm actually had the money - morally, which is worse?

I suggest what Bulls did is also cheating (including cheating HMRC out of money owed).

To then pay the wage bill for you...!!!! Crazy!

You haven't even started to be punished!

No, I mean have a more sterner penalty. Six points is a joke. Enough is made of the levels of financial professionalism that are needed in the criteria - so heavy penalties should ensue following such financial meltdowns as the one Bradford have just played out.

. . . ie, not retrospective. Change the operational rules.

I think they need to be looked at, definitely. Although as I said there is still the possibility of the Bulls suffering further penalties through either losing their licence of being liquidated.

You sure your a Wigan fan, We actually play Wigan at Craven Park.

They should have sacked a mascot for a start to save money ... Bull Man or Bull Boy, with the loser heading off to the abattoir.

Looks like they have sold off the walkie talkies, potter was on his Iphone to the sidelines!

Ultimately I don't see why the Bulls should be punished beyond this season. If they can prove next year they can financially compete then so be it. If not the license is revoked and held until the next license round. I do agree 6 points isn't enough and probably should be all points for that season.

Game on with Wakey beating Saints. Given the slightly easier run in, I think they could overtake both the Bulls & HKR!

This is actually one of his better posts, you should see what he was saying about the relative merits of McIlorum and Michael Monaghan before yesterday's game. We've not seen much of him on the Wire board since the game though.

Can't understand why SKY are showing London-Wire and Widnes-Hull next weekend, when Hudds-Bradford and Rovers-Wakefield mean so much more in terms of the top8.

Cos we're fooking awesome

Btw, some of you should remember how having a top 8 play/off has kept the season alive down the table, next time you're mid-season hand-wringing over how it should be a top 5/3/first past the post system.

Makes clear sense to me, as the discusssion is whether KR will make the play offs the statement reads as
KR @ Wigan away is a loss, he even states KR's last three fixtures which include 'Wigan A', the A stands for 'away' if you're in any doubt?
Your East Hull education is clearly letting you down yet again

i think sky have to show every team at home twice in a season, and have only shown London once so far (due to the embarrassing looking crowds on tv) so they need to get in another before the end.

Yep agree, also a wooden spoon fight going on as now London looking better, Widnes improving and Cas not playing too well. The fight for top 4 can go anywhere and also Wigan v Wire for top spot. Very intresting end to season.