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| Well initially Wakefield rejected the idea to groundshare with Castleford. But their chief executive James Elston said on the Tryline podcast today that they were willing to reconsider.
To be fair I believe Belle Vue is falling down and the best option would be to share with Castleford if they can come to some kind of agreement.
What do you guys reckon?
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| Given the low finances of RL in this country, it would make financial sense for both clubs to share a stadium.
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| Quote ="justarugbyfan"Well initially Wakefield rejected the idea to groundshare with Castleford. But their chief executive James Elston said on the Tryline podcast today that they were willing to reconsider.
To be fair I believe Belle Vue is falling down and the best option would be to share with Castleford if they can come to some kind of agreement.
What do you guys reckon?'"
Where do you suggest they share?
Contrary to popular belief, there isn't a ground at Glasshoughton and won't be for 2 years at best.
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| Quote ="dboy"Where do you suggest they share?
Contrary to popular belief, there isn't a ground at Glasshoughton and won't be for 2 years at best.'"
Really? You know that for a fact?
And with the fourth post, we start to see the inevitable path of these threads.
Still, let's see if this one can buck the trend …
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| Quote ="tb"Still, let's see if this one can buck the trend …'"
Doubt it.
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| Quote ="dboy"Where do you suggest they share?
Contrary to popular belief, there isn't a ground at Glasshoughton and won't be for 2 years at best.'"
Of course at the new stadium. Obviously it's not ready yet but when it is it would surely make sense for them to share. Until then Wakefield will either have to find somewhere else.
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| Quote ="tb"Really? You know that for a fact?
And with the fourth post, we start to see the inevitable path of these threads.
Still, let's see if this one can buck the trend …'"
OK, "at best" when could we see a premier standard ground at GH?
Licencing decisions are due in 2 months; will it be ready for then?
It's not built, so "until then", it makes sense for Wakefield to pursue Newmarket and ground share at Oakwell - a premier standard venue.
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| Why should Castleford Tigers consider this, We offered it, Got laughed at. So we have prepared our plans alone.
We would be mad to just let Wakefield share now.
I would however be happy for Cas to allow Wakefield to rent the stadium for a year while they prepared a suitable venue for themselves
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"
We would be mad to just let Wakefield share now.
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Share what?
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| Quote ="dboy"Share what?'"
The proposed stadium.
I arent getting into all of this, You havent got a ground business, It will be up. And at the latest 2013, We will be playing in it.
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| So does he mean share, as in contribute an equal share of cash or RENT i.e. wait for it to be built then pay Cas to play in it?
If it's the former they can bog off, if it's the latter, bring on the extra revenue!
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"The proposed stadium.
I arent getting into all of this, You havent got a ground business, It will be up. And at the latest 2013, We will be playing in it.'"
Well then, I [i propose [/ithat Wakey consider sharing your [i proposed [/iground in [i 2013[/i.
Until then, they should play at Oakwell.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"Why should Castleford Tigers consider this, We offered it, Got laughed at. So we have prepared our plans alone.
We would be mad to just let Wakefield share now.
I would however be happy for Cas to allow Wakefield to rent the stadium for a year while they prepared a suitable venue for themselves'"
I'd agree with you about Wakefield's behaviour in the whole thing, which was frankly ridiculous, but I do think it would be massively to both clubs advantage to share a stadium in some way. Whether Cas are the "senior partners" in the thing might be a way forward but it would drastically reduce Cas' costs for the ground if it can be used 24 times a year instead of just 12 and the maintenance costs are shared. A stadium is a very expensive thing for a rugby league club to own and run when it is an exclusively rugby league stadium.
Take a look at the biggest 3 clubs in RL (and by biggest I mean in business terms) Leeds, Wigan & Hull FC. They all share a stadium and it drastically improves the finances of the club.
Have a 20,000 capacity stadium. 1 side of it in blue, red & white for Wakey, 1 side of it in yellow & black for Cas. It'd get nearly filled for Cas v Wakey games plus the options of some internationals there.
Whilst I understand there is bitterness between the 2 clubs I think they (especially Wakey) need to put that aside and come together for the benefit of both.
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| Maybe they should pursue the complete non starter at Newmarket?
They cant afford to keep playing at Oakwell in the Championship, Which is more than likely where they are heading.
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| Quote ="BigRob"I'd agree with you about Wakefield's behaviour in the whole thing, which was frankly ridiculous, but I do think it would be massively to both clubs advantage to share a stadium in some way. Whether Cas are the "senior partners" in the thing might be a way forward but it would drastically reduce Cas' costs for the ground if it can be used 24 times a year instead of just 12 and the maintenance costs are shared. A stadium is a very expensive thing for a rugby league club to own and run when it is an exclusively rugby league stadium.
Take a look at the biggest 3 clubs in RL (and by biggest I mean in business terms) Leeds, Wigan & Hull FC. They all share a stadium and it drastically improves the finances of the club.
Have a 20,000 capacity stadium. 1 side of it in blue, red & white for Wakey, 1 side of it in yellow & black for Cas. It'd get nearly filled for Cas v Wakey games plus the options of some internationals there.
Whilst I understand there is bitterness between the 2 clubs I think they (especially Wakey) need to put that aside and come together for the benefit of both.'"
The Castleford fans would not accept the stadium, We have prepared and planned. Unless it was a Castleford Stadium, In Castleford's Colours.
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| how many more threads
it aint happening
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| If Wakey end up in the Championship, they can remain at BV.
They can't remain at BV for 2012, if they are to remain in SL.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"
it aint happening
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At last!! Sanity!!
There are no funds for GH and it aint happening.
Sorry...I couldn't help myself. Good luck with GH.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"The Castleford fans would not accept the stadium, We have prepared and planned. Unless it was a Castleford Stadium, In Castleford's Colours.'"
I honestly think they would if the argument about finances is put to them. Because whilst a new stadium is looking great news in the short to medium term for Cas, in the longer term it could be an expensive millstone hanging around their necks if it's only used 12 times a year.
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| Not being in fanbase of either club, it might seem a little disingenuous to comment. However, an RL stadium is only going to be used a maximum of 15/16 times a year. Or to put it another way, it's about 2/3 of the year laying idle. So, a ground share makes financial sense for clubs as then the ground is being used twice as often, which will cut down on stadium running costs for both parties.
I understand the objections of the fans. But, we've seen Wakefield's finances under public scrutiny, and as Cas are a similar size club, there is a possibility that they could find themselves in a similar position. I'm not saying they will, i'm not saying they are in financial trouble or that I've got access to any sort of inside info. I'm just using common sense and saying that I'd rather not see either club fail or disappear from the sport altogether and if a ground share will improve their positions then surely it's the right thing to do.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"Not being in fanbase of either club, it might seem a little disingenuous to comment. However, an RL stadium is only going to be used a maximum of 15/16 times a year. Or to put it another way, it's about 2/3 of the year laying idle. So, a ground share makes financial sense for clubs as then the ground is being used twice as often, which will cut down on stadium running costs for both parties.
I understand the objections of the fans. But, we've seen Wakefield's finances under public scrutiny, and as Cas are a similar size club, there is a possibility that they could find themselves in a similar position. I'm not saying they will, i'm not saying they are in financial trouble or that I've got access to any sort of inside info. I'm just using common sense and saying that I'd rather not see either club fail or disappear from the sport altogether and if a ground share will improve their positions then surely it's the right thing to do.'"
Couldn't have put it better myself.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"Not being in fanbase of either club, it might seem a little disingenuous to comment. However, an RL stadium is only going to be used a maximum of 15/16 times a year. Or to put it another way, it's about 2/3 of the year laying idle. '"
Do you really think stadiums are only used on first team home match days?
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| Quote ="tb"Do you really think stadiums are only used on first team home match days?'"
No , but that's the only time they are making a profit
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| Quote ="justarugbyfan"Well initially Wakefield rejected the idea to groundshare with Castleford. But their chief executive James Elston said on the Tryline podcast today that they were willing to reconsider.
To be fair I believe Belle Vue is falling down and the best option would be to share with Castleford if they can come to some kind of agreement.
What do you guys reckon?'"
if i were cas no i wouldnt allow it
wakey rejected the initial offer for their own proposal
now thats gone belly up for a long time they come running to cas.
why should cas now help their main rival for a SL spot if they dont need too.
once wakey get booted out of SL it could be a good idea
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