www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/b ... 5994502803 most of the increased money will come from Foxsports. this is as the 2nd rated sport, a long way behind NRL. that is our benchmark now cant believe fox pay so much for something which doesnt rate. they better give us what we deserve includes internet which is probably $20 million pa basically an extra $45 million pa we currently get around $90 million pa and are also looking for $200 million pa ie an increase of $110 million

www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/b ... 5994502803 most of the increased money will come from Foxsports. this is as the 2nd rated sport, a long way behind NRL. that is our benchmark now cant believe fox pay so much for something which doesnt rate. they better give us what we deserve includes internet which is probably $20 million pa basically an extra $45 million pa we currently get around $90 million pa and are also looking for $200 million pa ie an increase of $110 million

Whilst I admire your passion.....I'd leave the TV negotiations to those that know what they are doing. I fear for your sanity if the NRL don't get what you believe they deserve.....

so do i

I'll be happy if we get around $750mill a year all up. I simply can't see them doubling TV rights in one hit, even though we deserve it if comparing to AFL.

true but it depends on the new ic

last time we didnt know what AFL got, we thought we got a good deal

now we know what AFL will get first and we wont accept foxtel underpaying us to overpay them

foxtel will have to pay us around 50% more than what they pay the AFL per game

well have an extra game for fox too so foxtel should be looking at a minimum $50, $70 million increase

then the rest is FTA and origin,

i think were a good chance to get $200 million now weve seen what afl gets

I be well and truly over the moon if we managed to get 750 mill a year, we'd crush every code out here by year 3 of a 5 year contract

for gallop to be doing a good job it needs to be much more

$750 - 800 million is an average result

he knows this time what afl will get, hes got stats which show we are number 1 and there are other stats which show we generate 50% more advertising then afl

he needs to match afl to be a good leader

Hello, hello, JB said 750 mill a year guys.

I could def live with that

why does the afl get so much?

i can't stand the game.

because they have decent management and no conflict of interest ownership. Look at Ch9, Telstra, Fox. The 3 big players in NRL are all in bed with one another one way or another. Throw in News ownership and ARL's spineless yes men and you have a recipe for some serious rorting.

Also AFL have teams in, or representing, every capital city. The perception is that AFL is a bigger more national sport amongst joe public, perception leads to reality of $'s in deals.

I don;t think the IC is going to be in long enough to have a massive impact on the next TV deal, hopefully the 2018 one will see us move ahead of AFL.

Because it attracts fans to games in massive numbers.......it is uniquely Australian and advertisers will pay top dollar to be associated with it.......

me niether........it's just terrible with very little skill involved.

when the SL tore RL apart AFL got lucky, having its major competitor decimated and they went from a distant second to having a lot of money

in the end of the day, more money doesnt mean a better game

every person in NSW has had AFL shoved down their throat, yet the NRL continues its growth

the cream always rises to the top

we destroyed RU, AFL is next

even with the damage of the SL war the nrl will become the number 1 sport by a long way again

if AFL had a SL war it wouldnt recover

only RL couldve have a SL war and recover

always had doubts about using that term........I think you'll find that unless you've been eating iron, 5hit floats as well

TV deals aren't based solely on ratings. The NRL doesn't have the right following to demand 1 billion. A working class sport will always have that problem.

The AFL gets more money because it's a middle class sport. Advertisers, and therefore networks, are willing to pay more.

^^^ Do you have any evidence of the above? What AFL does have is capital city covg, a longer game and more add breaks. Not sure that the demographics for the two codes are that different anymore. Is there such a thing as a poor working class in Australia anymore? In WA the tradies earn more than the professionals!

advertising revenues shows the nrl generates 50% more revenues than does AFL

The amount of drop balls in this game is mind blowing.Lucky they don't have the knock on rule.The game is a total mess.

the afl can have their billion i still won't be watching..

and then theres nick reiwoldt and the other guy dropping their balls into each others hands in their bedroom the sickos

What?

A report came out a few years ago saying RL had the richest support base in Australia, the only place where RL was beat was from RU having more Rich people involved, RL had the richest ones and a way bigger spread overall.

I'll see if I can find the report.

Quote "WHAT is the richest sport in Australia as measured by fan base? Rugby union is likely to be the first sport to jump to mind - all those tweed jackets, leather elbow patches, Range Rovers and merchant bankers would seemingly guarantee the No.1 spot. But a new survey by data marketing group, Torque, has found while union certainly has more seriously rich fans, rugby league is Australia's richest sport. This is partly because it has more fans in the nation's most populous and expensive state, but it's still good news for a code widely regarded as the sport of the working class. Torque says rugby league is the richest sport in "terms of the total affluence of its supporter base" - just beating the Australian Football League. Part of the reason for this is that average incomes in rugby league strongholds NSW and Queensland are higher than in southern AFL states such as Victoria and South Australia. ... It also raises the question of whether rugby league has been marketing itself to the right audience. ... The image of the game is not reflected by its fan base," Cooper says. "But it is surprising that rugby league is as mid-market as it is." ...rugby league has more than its fair share of executive, professional & managerial supporters the survey found.'" forums.leagueunlimited.com/showt ... hest+sport

Quote "WHAT is the richest sport in Australia as measured by fan base? Rugby union is likely to be the first sport to jump to mind - all those tweed jackets, leather elbow patches, Range Rovers and merchant bankers would seemingly guarantee the No.1 spot. But a new survey by data marketing group, Torque, has found while union certainly has more seriously rich fans, rugby league is Australia's richest sport. This is partly because it has more fans in the nation's most populous and expensive state, but it's still good news for a code widely regarded as the sport of the working class. Torque says rugby league is the richest sport in "terms of the total affluence of its supporter base" - just beating the Australian Football League. Part of the reason for this is that average incomes in rugby league strongholds NSW and Queensland are higher than in southern AFL states such as Victoria and South Australia. ... It also raises the question of whether rugby league has been marketing itself to the right audience. ... The image of the game is not reflected by its fan base," Cooper says. "But it is surprising that rugby league is as mid-market as it is." ...rugby league has more than its fair share of executive, professional & managerial supporters the survey found.'" forums.leagueunlimited.com/showt ... hest+sport

Couple of things......market research is very unreliable. 9 out of 10 cats prefer whiskas.......how the fu(k do they know that

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Next up....Torque, the company that carried out this market research .....not sure how reliable they are....but they seem to be based in 2 physical addresses and have a PO Box address in Brisbane.....but very rarely do CEO's and COO's put themselves on websites as the first point of contact......unless thay are also the sales team....which points to them being fairly small, localised in the Q'land NSW region....oh, they also have an NRL team as a case study.

Then there's the comment...about RL marketing itself to the right people? RL is working class.........what has changed is the dollar in the working mans pocket over the last 30 years.....working class people used to have 1 TV....now we all have a plazma in every room...2 cars outside the door...etc...etc...


I have no doubt that there are loads of wealthy people who are NRL fans...same as there are loads of AFL fans who are properly wedged up as well........whilst Union, which has very few fans, has the advantage of most of the players and fans are wealthy the day they are born, go to nice schools, decent uni's and regardless of their academic results, they all get good jobs on good money.
Spin it all you like, but if you were looking at the average income for all fans of all 3 games...Union is where it's at.

That said, I would say that the NRL could look at targeting the Union fans..........I was a union guy.....watched a game of live league and that was that.....I now consider myself a league fan. As much as I'd like to think I am....I ain't unique...

eels mate theres also the reporting that shows that RL areas generate 50% more advetising revenues than AFL areas

people just dont understand that RL comprises 58% of australias population whilst AFL is 42%.

even worse for AwFuL fans is the fact that given incomes are so much higher in sydney, the value of avertising in sydney is worth so much more not only because of the greater population, but also the higher incomes

whoever gets the next NRL TV rights, whatever they pay, theyll make millions of it

I know Dally, they argue for arguments sake.

hey mate theres a thread on lu thats the funniest ive ever read on a rl forum, the one with the photo of burgess and gi and they come up with the caption underneath

been killing myself reading that

reading lu looks like 10 are going to have a massive shot at the nrl, including competing with both 9 AND fox

1 billion here we come!