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[i"I'm really pleased, fullstop, with the whole exercise.
"We've come across 12,000 miles, we've done things slightly different this time, we've got an extremely tough game under our belts.
"We're absolutely where I thought we would be."[/i
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If I was an England supporter it's the last line of that quote that would bother me
[i"We're absolutely where I thought we would be."[/i
England are allegedly the third best side in the world right now.
Yet they were made to look very ordinary by a side that arent even a country in their own right.
So maybe jet lag was to blame? I'm not sure when they flew... someone said about a week ago...on Air New Zealand.
Sure, Air New Zealand is not Qantas. But I'm sure they all went business class.
I've done Sydney to London and back business class before and I felt fine by the next day. The food is good, you can lie down, your ankles dont swell up and its a nice experience. Sure, economy is a bit of a grueller and it takes a week or so to feel totally back to normal... but when you are down the pointy end you can sleep for most of it.
Stacey Jones managed it ok a few years ago. He was backwards and forwards between the northern and southern hemispheres weekly from what I remember.
And Jarrod Sammut hopped off the plane and got man of the match for Crusaders on his debut if I'm not mistaken?
So how on earth can the england coach be 'really pleased'?
They have played 2 games so far... both of which they realistically should have won at a canter.
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"We've come across 12,000 miles, we've done things slightly different this time, we've got an extremely tough game under our belts.
"We're absolutely where I thought we would be."[/i
www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/p ... 5939640380
If I was an England supporter it's the last line of that quote that would bother me
[i"We're absolutely where I thought we would be."[/i
England are allegedly the third best side in the world right now.
Yet they were made to look very ordinary by a side that arent even a country in their own right.
So maybe jet lag was to blame? I'm not sure when they flew... someone said about a week ago...on Air New Zealand.
Sure, Air New Zealand is not Qantas. But I'm sure they all went business class.
I've done Sydney to London and back business class before and I felt fine by the next day. The food is good, you can lie down, your ankles dont swell up and its a nice experience. Sure, economy is a bit of a grueller and it takes a week or so to feel totally back to normal... but when you are down the pointy end you can sleep for most of it.
Stacey Jones managed it ok a few years ago. He was backwards and forwards between the northern and southern hemispheres weekly from what I remember.
And Jarrod Sammut hopped off the plane and got man of the match for Crusaders on his debut if I'm not mistaken?
So how on earth can the england coach be 'really pleased'?
They have played 2 games so far... both of which they realistically should have won at a canter.
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McNamara's team throws away a winning position and is lucky to scrape a draw.
He then goes on about how positives taken from the game and blah blah blah
I'm a Bradford fan and we've put up with the rubbish he comes out with for the last 4 years
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"McNamara's team throws away a winning position and is lucky to scrape a draw.
He then goes on about how positives taken from the game and blah blah blah
I'm a Bradford fan and we've put up with the rubbish he comes out with for the last 4 years'"
Lets be honest.
The only positive from that game was that England didnt lose. |
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England were very impressive for the opening half of the game. Who knows how much of the second half was tiredness, how much was McBannana experimenting as reserving the energy levels of key players and how much was the usual inept rubbish we see from England.
The little scrotey Tomkins had a good game, his brother though looked completely out of his depth.
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Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"[i"I'm really pleased, fullstop, with the whole exercise.
"We've come across 12,000 miles, we've done things slightly different this time, we've got an extremely tough game under our belts.
"We're absolutely where I thought we would be."[/i
www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/p ... 5939640380
If I was an England supporter it's the last line of that quote that would bother me
[i"We're absolutely where I thought we would be."[/i
England are allegedly the third best side in the world right now.
Yet they were made to look very ordinary by a side that arent even a country in their own right.
So maybe jet lag was to blame? I'm not sure when they flew... someone said about a week ago...on Air New Zealand.
Sure, Air New Zealand is not Qantas. But I'm sure they all went business class.
I've done Sydney to London and back business class before and I felt fine by the next day. The food is good, you can lie down, your ankles dont swell up and its a nice experience. Sure, economy is a bit of a grueller and it takes a week or so to feel totally back to normal... but when you are down the pointy end you can sleep for most of it.
Stacey Jones managed it ok a few years ago. He was backwards and forwards between the northern and southern hemispheres weekly from what I remember.
And Jarrod Sammut hopped off the plane and got man of the match for Crusaders on his debut if I'm not mistaken?
So how on earth can the england coach be 'really pleased'?
They have played 2 games so far... both of which they realistically should have won at a canter.
Shocking.'"
Come on Baz, we all know you can troll better than that. That was just a boring rant. The match against the Maoris was a warm up and nothing more. The first half was a run through of set plays and formations, so the players can get used to each other. They went 18-0 up without even trying. Second half they took their foot off the gas and played around with formations.
You can never judge a team in a warm up match. Wakey beat Leeds on Boxing Day every year in the Cravendale Cup or whatever its called. This doesn't mean we're going to finish top and win SL.
We'll see next week how out of depth players are and how much we lack talent. Personally, I'm pleased with the performance and am looking forward to the tournament. |
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Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"[i"I'm really pleased, fullstop, with the whole exercise.
"We've come across 12,000 miles, we've done things slightly different this time, we've got an extremely tough game under our belts.
"We're absolutely where I thought we would be."[/i
www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/p ... 5939640380
If I was an England supporter it's the last line of that quote that would bother me
[i"We're absolutely where I thought we would be."[/i
England are allegedly the third best side in the world right now.
Yet they were made to look very ordinary by a side that arent even a country in their own right.
So maybe jet lag was to blame? I'm not sure when they flew... someone said about a week ago...on Air New Zealand.
Sure, Air New Zealand is not Qantas. But I'm sure they all went business class.
I've done Sydney to London and back business class before and I felt fine by the next day. The food is good, you can lie down, your ankles dont swell up and its a nice experience. Sure, economy is a bit of a grueller and it takes a week or so to feel totally back to normal... but when you are down the pointy end you can sleep for most of it.
Stacey Jones managed it ok a few years ago. He was backwards and forwards between the northern and southern hemispheres weekly from what I remember.
And Jarrod Sammut hopped off the plane and got man of the match for Crusaders on his debut if I'm not mistaken?
So how on earth can the england coach be 'really pleased'?
They have played 2 games so far... both of which they realistically should have won at a canter.
Shocking.'"
Come on Baz, we all know you can troll better than that. That was just a boring rant. The match against the Maoris was a warm up and nothing more. The first half was a run through of set plays and formations, so the players can get used to each other. They went 18-0 up without even trying. Second half they took their foot off the gas and played around with formations.
You can never judge a team in a warm up match. Wakey beat Leeds on Boxing Day every year in the Cravendale Cup or whatever its called. This doesn't mean we're going to finish top and win SL.
We'll see next week how out of depth players are and how much we lack talent. Personally, I'm pleased with the performance and am looking forward to the tournament. | |
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Exactly, a few years ago Manly came over to England (a proper team who play with eachother week in week out) and in their first match only just scraped through against Quins in a warm up....then went on to play well in the World Club Challenge (winning it if I remember correctly)... lets just see how England do when the matches matter shall we?
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I agree on the point that jet-lag can't be used as an excuse. I read someone say they played 4 or 5 days after arriving, if this is true, then how many bloody more days does one need to get over jet-lag?
The real excuse is reasonable enough, that the players who came off, particularly S. Tomkins, affected England's play too much for the worse.
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Jet lag is supposedly worse when you go from west to east, and I've done the long haul from London to Auckland. Let me tell you that it's no fun whatever class you're in. For much of the trip I had three seats to myself, call me greedy, and even that took a few days of re-adjustment. It has been suggested the ratio for successfully catching up with jetlag is 1 day to 1 hour of time difference.
Forget the jet lag, though, I'd rather we had a tough encounter against the Maori's and work on some set plays, rather than thump Wales/France again and get nothing out of the match. Lets not forget, the back line is still very inexperienced, at international level, we hadn't included Graham or Fielden in the front row and Morley went off quite early on.
Considering the season Gleeson has just had and the inexperience of England's backline, it seems strange he wasn't taken out as part of the squad.
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I doubt the Maori ever played a poor match. Especially at home.
This thread shows the lack of insight many have for the history of this team. Hopeless. And an embarrassment to the history of the Maori in rugby league.
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Morley's out as well now then? Doesn't look to good for us.
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| Quote ="Red-4-life"Morley's out as well now then? Doesn't look to good for us.'"
Despite what you may or may not think about Moreley it's obvious he is way out of his depth at international level these days.
From memory he has done nothing of any real worth in an England jumper for many years.
The bloke is too old. Sure nothing wrong with being old and playing footy... look at players like Beaver Menzies and Brett Kimmorley. The difference is... both those players are great players. Moreley could never quite grasp the concept that a tackle anywhere above the neck was deemed to be a high shot.
Watching Moreley lumbering around the field is like watching a re run of those old Rocky movies... can the old bloke still cut the mustard at the top level blah blah.
Sadly in his case.... nope.
His torn bicep injury is down to his poor tackling technique that ultimately was responsible for him leaving the Chooks.
England were poor yesterday against the maori.
Very poor.
But they were certainly no worse when Moreley retired hurt.
Time to say thanks Mr Moreley for all your efforts over the years in an England/GB jumper... but now put him out to pasture somewhere just outside Eccles or wherever he lives these days |
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agree with what you say,been a good one but to old now and it shows .
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Morley born 1977
Civoniceva born 1976
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Spot on Barrie. The least that McNamara could have done was admit that the performance was disappointing. With exception of Tomkins and Robinson there was little to take out of that game.
Kevin Brown was invisible, my girlfriend actually asked me 30 minutes in "who is our stand off". He was that uninvolved and out of position.
Our centres did not give our wingmen and ball. They seemed to run well but were very selfish.
Our props were finished in the second half. I know Morleys injury and the jet lag would have not helped this but given the opposition they should have had something left. Too many show ponies not enough race horse.
Lets just hope that McNamara is just putting on a positive face for the media and does realise how bad that performance was.
As Barrie said Shocking!
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I have said it before. Everytime I hear McNamara speak the guys sounds dillousinal with some of his comments!
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| Quote ="kobashi"I have said it before. Everytime I hear McNamara speak the guys sounds dillousinal with some of his comments!'"
What did you want him to say: "This was our final warm up game before the 4 nations, we were crap, we arent well enough prepared, our players arent good enough, we'll be lucky to make the final" ??? |
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| Quote ="Widnes 'till i die"What did you want him to say: "This was our final warm up game before the 4 nations, we were crap, we arent well enough prepared, our players arent good enough, we'll be lucky to make the final" ???'"
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Can I just check that we are talking about the warm up game that England were winning comfortably 18-0 after 50 minutes when the coach took his scrum half off as a precaution and starting experimenting?
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| Quote ="Dunbar"Can I just check that we are talking about the warm up game that England were winning comfortably 18-0 after 50 minutes when the coach took his scrum half off as a precaution and starting experimenting?'"
'Experimenting' should be done on the training field not in a match. |
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| Quote ="Widnes 'till i die"What did you want him to say: "This was our final warm up game before the 4 nations, we were crap, we arent well enough prepared, our players arent good enough, we'll be lucky to make the final" ???'"
No.
But maybe admitting we alot to work on and imrpove on and that the performance was poor. |
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