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| MOM again tonight, best back rower in the world? discuss...
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| He's got a strong case, along with Gallen, Lewis and Burgess.
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| =#8040FFWell he won the award 2 years running, so yes, he is the best second rower in the world.
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| Yep. Him and Burgess best in the world. Both from within about 20 miles of each other too. You could say they make better forwards in Yorkshire than t'other side o t'ills.
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| Thaiday?
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| Quote ="Richard1"Thaiday?'"
Yeth it ith
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| Depends what you're looking for.
Burgess, Ellis and Thaiday for strenth and being a nother prop.
If you want the whole package then Lockers is the best right now.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Depends what you're looking for.
Burgess, Ellis and Thaiday for strenth and being a nother prop.
If you want the whole package then Lockers is the best right now.'"
Lockyer is a stand-off.
It's an easier mistake to make than believing Sean O'L is one of the best players in the game though.
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Yeth it ith'"
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Depends what you're looking for.
Burgess, Ellis and Thaiday for strenth and being a nother prop.
If you want the whole package then Lockers is the best right now.'"
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| Ellis is on top form at the moment probably the best 2nd row in the world, backrow wise including Loose forward Adam Blair would have to be right up there
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| Sean O'Loughlin is probably in the top 10 back rowers in the world at the minute. His defence is exceptional and aswell as being a good metre maker he has alot more assists than Burgess or Ellis.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Sean O'Loughlin is probably in the top 10 back rowers in the world at the minute. His defence is exceptional and aswell as being a good metre maker he has alot more assists than Burgess or Ellis.'"
=#8040FFWho are both playing in a far superior league, and in a different position.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8040FFWho are both playing in a far superior league, and in a different position.'"
I didn't dispute that the NRL is better. I'm talking backrow in general.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"I didn't dispute that the NRL is better.'"
So you agree that its ridiculous to compare stats, for people playing in leagues whch have different standards?
Or do you think that my little brother, is in fact better than ellis and o'loughlin, because his stats, playing for his high school team against average teenagers, are better than their stats, whilst playing against the best pro's in the world?
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| O'Loughlin gets some stick but he's a quality player that I'd have at Wire anyday.
Best Backrower in the world? no chance, different type of player to Ellis or Burgess who will probably give a team more as an all rounder but he isn't as good as them at what they do
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| Quote ="Dico"O'Loughlin gets some stick but he's a quality player that I'd have at Wire anyday.
Best Backrower in the world? no chance, different type of player to Ellis or Burgess who will probably give a team more as an all rounder but he isn't as good as them at what they do'"
I agree with that, different type of player.
O'Loughlin would get in any SL side and alot of NRL sides though.
Quote ="Widnes 'till i die"Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"I didn't dispute that the NRL is better.'"
So you agree that its ridiculous to compare stats, for people playing in leagues whch have different standards?
Or do you think that my little brother, is in fact better than ellis and o'loughlin, because his stats, playing for his high school team against average teenagers, are better than their stats, whilst playing against the best pro's in the world?'"
Stats are constantly being compared between Nrl & SL as they are the 2 top competitions in the world. The Premier League, La Liga & Serie A all get compared (Messi & Ronaldo when he was at Man Utd) even though the Premiership is probably the best. Even if one league is better it is still the nearest thing for comparison.
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| I think O'L would get in any team in the world tbh if he went for a price.
I don't think a single team in the world has 3 backrowers better than him, lets be honest if Flanagan can do it jeeesus O'L could
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| Quote ="Dico"I think O'L would get in any team in the world tbh if he went for a price.
I don't think a single team in the world has 3 backrowers better than him, lets be honest if Flanagan can do it jeeesus O'L could'"
Yeah, I'd agree with that.
I think there is alot of people who don't rate O'L for some reason, but he is definitely up there with the best English back rowers for a start.
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| I wish Ellis played like this at Leeds.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I wish Ellis played like this at Leeds.'"
With quality players around them some players thrive
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| Lockers is currently the most creative 13 in the world along with defence to match anyone.
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