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Probably.
We should persuade him against leaving entirely and getting behind the SL club. Some people are so ungrateful at what these blokes put in, financially and time wise. He's already done a lot for the Crusaders franchise

probably not. I'm sure the RFL conducted proper due diligence on the new owner, and got proper guarantees that he would stick around for more than 2 wee....ahh, sorry this is the RFL, he probably just gave Nigel Wood a bite of his sausage roll to get the franchise.

Only if they view having somewhere to play matches as important. Still think of the juniors.

Moss still owns the stadium, it isnt owned by Wrexham FC but Moss.

Im not sure he will sell the Football club, then throw the RL club away meaning no-one can come to the stadium they are planning on improving

Stadiums can be sold you know.

It may prove to be hot air but if it does happen then it is not good news at all.

After the stunt Mr Hamilton pulled this must raise concerns.
Without trying too hard I came across this - [url=http://www.redpassion.co.uk/forums/wrexham/44885-wrexham-football-club-2006-ltd-documents-2.htmlFROM 2009[/url

As a FulhamCrusaderBroncoQuins fan I can sympathise with the Crusaders fans and I am all for Crusaders being in SL as I believe expansion is needed for the game to flourish, but Jesus Wept, are they on a mission to change names, move grounds and go to the wall more times in 2 years than we have in 30 years.

Let's hope this guy sees the potential in 2 sports clubs in the one stadium and throws his weight behing the Crusaders......2,600 odd average for the wendyball team this year...he needs to see the benefit of Crusaders adding to the revenue stream and they will, as I see them averaging 5k easily this year.

In comparison with these two, Leighton Samuel doesn't seem like such a bad feller after all... www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-w ... -25791183/ and here's the response on the Crusaders' site... www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id=842 further reading - the Daily Mirror story... www.mirror.co.uk/advice/archive/ ... _page.html

In comparison with these two, Leighton Samuel doesn't seem like such a bad feller after all... www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-w ... -25791183/ and here's the response on the Crusaders' site... www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id=842 further reading - the Daily Mirror story... www.mirror.co.uk/advice/archive/ ... _page.html

Sounds like just the characters you want at a RL club! Seriously what is Moss thinking employing those two?

They are obviously good at what they do....which I will add, has yet to be shown to be illegal. That said, morally, I don't know why anyone would touch them with a 10 foot barge pole.......

The statement from Crusaders covers the clubs butts and I would expect a mutual parting of the ways in the near future.

Quote ="gutterfax"They are obviously good at what they do....which I will add, has yet to be shown to be illegal. That said, morally, I don't know why anyone would touch them with a 10 foot barge pole....... The statement from Crusaders covers the clubs butts and I would expect a mutual parting of the ways in the near future.'" Lisa Colford is the financial controller of Wrexham FC. Given that they are sharing personnel with the Crusaders, and indeed Mr Moss's defence of the pair appeared on the RL club's website, the following is of some concern... www.gov-news.org/gov/uk/news/cha ... 34974.html "The Managing Director Mrs Jeannette Walker, a former credit controller of Barrington House was unable to answer many of the questions put to her by investigators and was reliant on consultant and self employed accountant Lisa Colford, the former company secretary of Barrington House." "The accounting records of both companies were at best inaccurate and at worst misleading with many repostings, undocumented loans and consultants paid on account without any invoices to account for the payments. Both companies appeared to be insolvent owing VAT and PAYE of over £250,000."

Quote ="gutterfax"They are obviously good at what they do....which I will add, has yet to be shown to be illegal. That said, morally, I don't know why anyone would touch them with a 10 foot barge pole....... The statement from Crusaders covers the clubs butts and I would expect a mutual parting of the ways in the near future.'" Lisa Colford is the financial controller of Wrexham FC. Given that they are sharing personnel with the Crusaders, and indeed Mr Moss's defence of the pair appeared on the RL club's website, the following is of some concern... www.gov-news.org/gov/uk/news/cha ... 34974.html "The Managing Director Mrs Jeannette Walker, a former credit controller of Barrington House was unable to answer many of the questions put to her by investigators and was reliant on consultant and self employed accountant Lisa Colford, the former company secretary of Barrington House." "The accounting records of both companies were at best inaccurate and at worst misleading with many repostings, undocumented loans and consultants paid on account without any invoices to account for the payments. Both companies appeared to be insolvent owing VAT and PAYE of over £250,000."

They sound similar to an organisation that scammed money from the "donating" companies too. They would ring up asking for a purchase order number saying the artwork for your entry in the wallplanner/directory just needs confirming, and thanks for helping the kids. Obviously in the hope that whoever dealt with the call would assume someone else in the organisation had agreed to it and since it was for charity it must be ok right?

They nearly got me with that one as I'd just joined a small company and assumed that the previous incumbant has agreed to it. After a while I got another call, same thing, except this time I knew I would have been the person to authorise it and I hadn't. So I never paid the invoice for the first one which was £350+vat.

I guess that's how you get to earn £170K per year.

I dont think this will affect crusaders at all but could affect other clubs because the rfl would probably throw even more money at them in order to keep them afloat as a counterbalance

'Even more' than what, my little Fax troll?

Shirley it's common knowledge* that the RFL are paying the salaries of Messrs Noble / Harris / Turner & co.

Just as they funded Steve McCormack at Gateshead last year.

Actually Craig Spence did help clear the pitch of snow the other week. And time is money...


* by "common knowledge" of course I mean wild, unsubstantiated rumour.

Best theory of the year so far

Can't see it affecting us.

He has no financial difficulties and is only looking to pull out of involvement with the football club due to abuse from the football fans.

Sounds like something Ken Bates would be proud of!

The RFL advanced Crusaders their TV money.

Link please
By the way, it is common knowledge that the RFL don't have any money to give Crusaders.....because they have been giving us £1,000,000,000,000 every week since 1980 to prop up London RL. They raised these funds by closing the pits, closing hospitals and selling cheap drugs to kids on street corners.
You are Fox Mulder and I claim ANOTHER £5 (coz we need every penny down here)

I'd agree with this point , as for the rest , only partly true

If the RFL had any big money to give to Crusaders wouldn't they have used it to keep us in South Wales where the majority of the emerging youth were playing?

The truth is we had to move to survive.

Welcome to the Club Bud

It has worked really well for the Fulbroncrusaderquins