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| Has a cover story on its education supplement about RL in southern schools taking over as the dominant sport from soccer.
Written by one Steve McCormack....who'll no doubt be getting the sack for not being sufficiently negative.
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| [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/schools/tackling-the-northsouth-divide-how-a-northern-sport-is-migrating-to-schools-in-the-south-1814595.htmlInteresting read[/url
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| UNBELIEVABLE INCORRECT FACTS
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Rugby codes: Union versus league
How many sorts of rugby are there?
Two: rugby union, with 15 players a team, is played all over the country and has its roots in public schools. Rugby league is a 13-a-side game, historically based in the northern conurbations between the Mersey and the Humber.
How did they evolve?
Rugby union arrived first, in the mid-19th century, and was an amateur game. But when clubs in the industrial north wanted to pay players to compensate them for missing work, a row broke out, leading the northern teams to break away and form their own league. The split has continued to this day, even though both sports are now fully professional.[/i
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| Quote ="Sadfish"UNBELIEVABLE INCORRECT FACTS
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Rugby codes: Union versus league
How many sorts of rugby are there?
Two: rugby union, with 15 players a team, is played all over the country and has its roots in public schools. Rugby league is a 13-a-side game, historically based in the northern conurbations between the Mersey and the Humber.
How did they evolve?
Rugby union arrived first, in the mid-19th century, and was an amateur game. But when clubs in the industrial north wanted to pay players to compensate them for missing work, a row broke out, leading the northern teams to break away and form their own league. The split has continued to this day, even though both sports are now fully professional.[/i'" If it wasn't for the SL debacle the union mob would've never gone professional.
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| Quote ="Sadfish"UNBELIEVABLE INCORRECT FACTS
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Rugby codes: Union versus league
How many sorts of rugby are there?
Two: rugby union, with 15 players a team, is played all over the country and has its roots in public schools. Rugby league is a 13-a-side game, historically based in the northern conurbations between the Mersey and the Humber.
How did they evolve?
Rugby union arrived first, in the mid-19th century, and was an amateur game. But when clubs in the industrial north wanted to pay players to compensate them for missing work, a row broke out, leading the northern teams to break away and form their own league. The split has continued to this day, even though both sports are now fully professional.[/i'"
Which part is unbelievably incorrect?
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| Nice quote:
"In school it's like proper boring, but this is different; you can hurt people without feeling guilty about it."
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| So much unfulfilled potential. Rugby league is such a fantastic sport, it's a shame we've got no money to make these roots bear fruit.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Nice quote:
"In school it's like proper boring, but this is different; you can hurt people without feeling guilty about it."'"
thats from a girl as well
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| Well done to the RFL for this and big raps to the Skolars and Quins (in their various formats) plus other smaller sides in London for helping to spread the word.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"So much unfulfilled potential. Rugby league is such a fantastic sport, it's a shame we've got no money to make these roots bear fruit.'"
from small acorns, and all that. the more schoolkids in London we get playing the game now, the more likely the sport is to permeate the Southern universities in 5 years time, then in 5 years - those kids that are learning the game now will be getting jobs in London - and progressing to positions of influence in business, in the media, and in politics.
Its never going to be a quick solution, but given time, this sport can be massive.
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"thats from a girl as well
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She's a 14 year old Essex girl - if she wasn't playing League after school she'd be getting p*ssed on Bacardi Breezers before happy slapping some other kid then putting out in the back of a Corsa FFS.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"She's a 14 year old Essex girl - if she wasn't playing League after school she'd be getting p*ssed on Bacardi Breezers before happy slapping some other kid then putting out in the back of a Corsa FFS.'"
Not that you would be stereotypical or anything!
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"the more likely the sport is to permeate the Southern universities in 5 years time'"
The university game is surprisingly widespread, and has been for a few years now.
Any further bolstering is, of course, great!
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| Quote ="J. Willard Gibbs"The university game is surprisingly widespread, and has been for a few years now.
Any further bolstering is, of course, great!'"
I know it is widespread (i.e. played to some level in most Uni's I would imagine), but it is still very much a minority sport in most - with the majority of players being Northern lads who are studying down South.
Once these Southern kids start at Uni, there will be more and more "locals" taking up RL and it will really take off.
The next step is to get into the Southern Public schools - and start to develop more of presence amongst the social elite.
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| now with the varsity match gettin bigger, canbridge and oxford are starting to hand out scholarships to those who can play rugby with a bit of a brain!!!
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"with the majority of players being Northern lads who are studying down South.'"
I have no actual figures, so this is obviously a shot in the dark, but I think you may be surprised.
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| Quote Gabby Larkin, 12, says she enjoys getting dirty and "just going for it".'"
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The main difference is that, in rugby league, when someone is tackled, the rest of the players aren't allowed to pile on top.
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Correction.
Don't show this article to Stuart Cummings.
Good article
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| Quote ="Saddened!"So much unfulfilled potential. Rugby league is such a fantastic sport, it's a shame we've got no money to make these roots bear fruit.'"
No - only £28 million quid of grant aid ...
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"I know it is widespread (i.e. played to some level in most Uni's I would imagine), but it is still very much a minority sport in most - with the majority of players being Northern lads who are studying down South.
Once these Southern kids start at Uni, there will be more and more "locals" taking up RL and it will really take off.
The next step is to get into the Southern Public schools - and start to develop more of presence amongst the social elite.'"
I play for one of the Uni teams in manchester. I don't think one of our players is actually from manchester. All are from rugby league heartland areas and the union side is far bigger with a lot more resources.
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| Quote ="dixie"I play for one of the Uni teams in manchester. I don't think one of our players is actually from manchester. All are from rugby league heartland areas and the union side is far bigger with a lot more resources.'"
Complete opposite at Leeds Met.
Get yourself down to Manchester RL and if you fancy a laugh have a look at Manchester RU's results so far this ¡season.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Complete opposite at Leeds Met.
Get yourself down to Manchester RL and if you fancy a laugh have a look at Manchester RU's results so far this ¡season.'"
And if you fancy a snooze, watch their games. Or any RU game, for that matter.
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| Quote ="dixie"I play for one of the Uni teams in manchester. I don't think one of our players is actually from manchester. All are from rugby league heartland areas and the union side is far bigger with a lot more resources.'"
as someone who spent three years at university in newcastle i'd say it was vastly different. most of our lads were union converts from the south who couldnt be bothered with "which school did you go to" attitude in the union sides.
Read this story this morning and its something thats nice to hear. Have recently finished studying in london and spent the year i was down there helping out with the u12 and u14 sides at the skolars (as well as attempting to play for the reserves!) and the potential down there is massive. While the article is about brentwood who have a great set up and who we merged with at u12 level i personally saw north london as an area where alot of RL talent could come from. young lads with sod all to do and lots of aggression to burn. League teaches disciline and team work yet allows them to channel anger and energy of which there is lot in north london!!
just look at the skolars and the players who've played this yeaar, players like Jez Obuchowski, Andre Vine, Smokey Junor. and there are plenty more to come through who i played alongside in the reserves. They may not all become world beaters (and skolars results this year showed you need to blend youth with experience) but they are just as good as many in the heartlands (and coming from leeds i can make the comparison). Also in relation to the uni teams, one of the lads at the skolars is in the process of setting up a team at middlesex uni to go in partnership with southgate college's new excellent rugby CORE programme.
This is an area that needs assistance and i'm glad to see it getting the publicity that the RFL's efforts deserve.
That said, this is only the start, continued improvement, investment and organisation is still needed down there to continue this but long may it continue, and here's hoping some day soon cockney's are flooding the pro game. it'd sure make plenty in the heartlands choke on their bovril!!
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"She's a 14 year old Essex girl - if she wasn't playing League after school she'd be getting p*ssed on Bacardi Breezers before happy slapping some other kid then putting out in the back of a Corsa FFS.'"
Either he has read Jordans autobiography or he has some knowledge of Essex girls
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| I play SRL and I concur that there is a massive influx of southerners into the game via university. I'd go as far to say a majority of our squad (Leeds Trinity) are union converts. I've spoken to members of plenty of sides across the country on tour and they're very much the same. The RFL should be doing more to make these uni students RL men for life..
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