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Gareth Ellis, Mark Flanagan and Sam Burgess..
"Wigan stand-off Mark Flanagan is heading to Wests Tigers, who are also set to sign England forward Sam Burgess from Bradford for 2010."
www.express.co.uk/posts/view/121 ... s-deported
Think that is great imo. What does everyone else think?
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Gareth Ellis, Mark Flanagan and Sam Burgess..
"Wigan stand-off Mark Flanagan is heading to Wests Tigers, who are also set to sign England forward Sam Burgess from Bradford for 2010."
www.express.co.uk/posts/view/121 ... s-deported
Think that is great imo. What does everyone else think?
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| Erm good for Flanagan, still young not had much opportunity at Wigan. If it's with the view to return to SL after a year or two stint then great.
Burgess, i'm not sure. Cracking player, could do with the world of good, but i'd fear we'd loose him forever if he made it over there.
Would like to see all three of them return to the SL within the next few years, obviously granted that Flanagan and Burgess actually go.
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| Flanagan is going to be a good one, couple years in Australia will do him great, he's going because his gf (an Aussie) is moving home, and wants to be with her. Hopefully he'll return to Wigan a better player.
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| good to see.
ellis has done very well.
the tigers in the 80s had a very good batch of english imports and im happy burgess is coming over whilst still young
he will return a much better player
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| Myler and Atkins to Wire too in that story.
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| Quote ="Stooper"Myler and Atkins to Wire too in that story.'"
And Millard going to Wakefield instead of Bradford like everyone thought he would.
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| Article missing now.........strange
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| Quote ="ParanoidAndroid"Article missing now.........strange'"
no it's not.
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| With my Wigan hat on i'd have loved to have the option of keeping Flanagan but with my England hat on it's a great move for a very talented young player.
I'll look forward to seeing how he goes over there and hope we get first option on him coming back here.
West Tigerrs will get alot of English support from now on i'd imagine.
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| Cool..
Unlikely with Burgess though. Unless a club have offered Bradford over the £500,000+ price tag on his head or suitable players in exchange (which is also unlikely) then he won't be going anyway until the 2011 season.
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| wonder how long it will be before league freak is on sayin they are all rubbish and need to be shot with !!!
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| Very good moves, Bound to be a bit of a fight for Flanagan to get in the team. Cant wait to see Burgess and Ellis playing together. The NRL will fear the English forwards.
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| Oh god.
The NRL really should avoid signing Poms.
It's funny when they fail, but I would still like to see the poms staying in Superleague where they belong
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Oh god.
The NRL really should avoid signing Poms.
It's funny when they fail, but I would still like to see the poms staying in Superleague where they belong'"
Just you wait until Burgess eats the convicts alive!
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Oh god.
The NRL really should avoid signing Poms.
It's funny when they fail, but I would still like to see the poms staying in Superleague where they belong'"
yeah morley, carney and ellis have all done rubbish in the nrl havent they.
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| Burgess will go well, Ellis is already established.
Flanagan will do a Mathers/Tansey/Thorman/Mason and will be back in SL within 2 years
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| Notice how they are all forwards.
I still think it is good news from an England point of view but I would like to see a Sam Tomkins or a Richie Myler go over there for a couple of years and see what happens.
Our backs don't have good records over there in comparison to the forwards. Richie Mathers and Chris Thorman spring to mind.
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| Quote ="Huntington Beach Bad Boy"Burgess will go well, Ellis is already established.
Flanagan will do a Mathers/Tansey/Thorman/Mason and will be back in SL within 2 years'"
It doesn't matter if he does, he will be a much better player for it.
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| Quote ="pyeman"yeah morley, carney and ellis have all done rubbish in the nrl havent they.'"
Yup.
Morely eventually got punted because he couldn't grasp the fact he had to tackle below head height.
Carney was reasonable .....but he was actually Irish ...and if rumours are to be believed....was 'close' to Matty Johns
Ellis is very over rated and I expect him to be back in SL before too long.
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Yup.
Morely eventually got punted because he couldn't grasp the fact he had to tackle below head height.
Carney was reasonable .....but he was actually Irish ...and if rumours are to be believed....was 'close' to Matty Johns
Ellis is very over rated and I expect him to be back in SL before too long.'"
Apart from Carney being Irish, the rest of the post is a load of tosh.
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| Quote ="bully boy"Apart from Carney being Irish, the rest of the post is a load of tosh.'"
Not at all.
Morely had to go.
If he wasn't injuring himself through poor tackling he was suspended.
Ellis arrived and had to be shown the basics. He is very average, despite what you may think
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| sounds good to me cos when they come back to england from our nrl feeder club they sign on for the giants, sounds like good news to me icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Yup.
Ellis is very over rated and I expect him to be back in SL before too long.'"
2010 wasnt it you convicts said? hmm..
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Quote ="Frosties."Gareth Ellis, Mark Flanagan and Sam Burgess..
"Wigan stand-off Mark Flanagan is heading to Wests Tigers, who are also set to sign England forward Sam Burgess from Bradford for 2010."
www.express.co.uk/posts/view/121 ... s-deported
Think that is great imo. What does everyone else think?'"
I think its great that slowly but surely the standards of our players are getting recognised in the NRL...once upon a time, not so long ago (the adrian morley era) its was a token brit knocking about in the NRL...next season there will be potentially 3...and possibly more in the future...
i think we have to ask the question here.....has English RL luckily turned out 3 good young lads or is grass routes and the academy systems starting to once again produce world class talent...?
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Quote ="Frosties."Gareth Ellis, Mark Flanagan and Sam Burgess..
"Wigan stand-off Mark Flanagan is heading to Wests Tigers, who are also set to sign England forward Sam Burgess from Bradford for 2010."
www.express.co.uk/posts/view/121 ... s-deported
Think that is great imo. What does everyone else think?'"
I think its great that slowly but surely the standards of our players are getting recognised in the NRL...once upon a time, not so long ago (the adrian morley era) its was a token brit knocking about in the NRL...next season there will be potentially 3...and possibly more in the future...
i think we have to ask the question here.....has English RL luckily turned out 3 good young lads or is grass routes and the academy systems starting to once again produce world class talent...?
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| Maybe not world class talent but the potential is there.
Some of the better SL players would easily make it in the NRL but not in their current form, different culture over there and within a year of their coaching they'd be much better players than they will become in SL.
Our standards seem to be rising, i'd personally prefer the homegrown quota to be raised by 2 by 2011 mind.
Lastly I think the players coming through today, the seeds were maybe put in place 5 or 6 years ago when it was considered teams were doing nothing, in another 5 or so years I think the British game will be somewhat better off, we got beaten fairly well but I think there was 8 Squadbuilder players (in brief detail, a system set up where fans' money goes to help the development of players) in the Wire 17 last friday, thats not including the other academy products and British players, 13 of our 17 were British trained, hasnt been that way for a LONG time
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