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| [size=150=#FF0000I need to read the AUP before I post again.[/size
Hock has probably played his last game for the season. He faces at least 4 weeks if found guilty of the gouge.
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| Pi$$ poor reffing, he should have walked.
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| does 4 nations games also count
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| Hope not.
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| Hock's only got back from the ban, just because he is a wigan played does not mean he automatically gains a spot in the four nations FFS
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| On what basis should Hock even be selected for the four nations?
Imagine your child using gareth hock as a role model, snorting coke and gouging fingers in opponents eyes dreaming of making International Honours.
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| Hope the rfl come down hard on him,mind you seems wigan players can do anything and get away with it
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| 4-8 Games is not a massive ban, Anything less than the maximum 8 matches is a disgrace.
Anybody involved with the amateur game knows that gouging is a big no no, the guideline for the ban there is sine die (banned for life)
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| If he'd have caused injury then it would be 8+
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| 4-8 weeks is a hardly massive, think he should consider himself very lucky they didn't charge him at the higher (F) grade, thats starts at 8 and goes up to as long as required.
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| Quote ="Code13"Hope not.'"
Why do you hope not? As a Wigan fan, I hope he's nowhere near the England team, and I doubt he'll be picked anyway.
Although it would be good to see him throw a few at the Aussies.
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| It shouldn't be down to whether an injury was caused really... should be 8+ no matter what
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| Liam Prescott of London Skolars got a 4 match ban last season for gouging. I expect Hock will get the same if found guilty.
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| Quote ="The Lizard"It shouldn't be down to whether an injury was caused really... should be 8+ no matter what'"
I agree totally but that's not how these things work.
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| JUSTICE
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| At full speed it barely looks like anything untoward happens and, crucially, Harrison doesn't complain. In slow-mo, Hock's not actually looking at his right hand or Harrison's head when he grabs the head and reefs it backwards. From that perspective it's very unlikely he's deliberately targeting the eyes. Certainly not in the manner you see in RU from time-to-time.
However, a very nasty, unsavoury incident and no place for it in RL. I expect a decent ban, a season-ender which will see him out of contention for the 4 Nations.
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| Quote ="Cronus"Harrison doesn't complain. '"
I think that says more about Harrison than it does about the smack head psycho
Quote ="Cronus"In slow-mo, Hock's not actually looking at his right hand or Harrison's head when he grabs the head and reefs it backwards. From that perspective it's very unlikely he's deliberately targeting the eyes. '"
nonsense...he knew what he was doing..are you Madge in disguise by any chance
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| Ban him for life! ...or watch it at full speed and see that while it's dangerous contact, Hock makes no deliberate effort to gouge Harrison. No doubt, he should be banned for what was a crude effort to grab the guy's face/head and jerk it back (bad enough), but let's not go OTT because he's a Wigan player, and because he made some stupid decisions (for which he's served his two year ban, btw)
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"I think that says more about Harrison than it does about the smack head psycho'"
Not everyone would consider somebody that does a line at a mate's BBQ a smack head though would they. The psycho bit's right.
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| Quote ="oxford-pie-eater"Not everyone would consider somebody that does a line at a mate's BBQ a smack head though would they. The psycho bit's right.'"
No, I wouldn't consider him a smack-head, especially as it wasn't smack he was ingesting.
I would however consider him too stupid to be allowed to continue in his job as a professional RL player. Anyone who earns a living from a sport that has a zero-tolerance policy on drugs, whether performance-enhancing or recreational, who then thinks it's OK to "do a line at a mate's barby", is certainly not the sort of person we need in the game.
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| Quote ="oxford-pie-eater"No doubt, he should be banned for what was a crude effort to grab the guy's face/head and jerk it back (bad enough), btw)'"
So Hocks too thick to realise that people have eyes on the front of their face ?
8 match ban at least , who would want their kid playing a sport that doesn't treat that type of action as serious , eventually somebody will be blinded by that type of attack , then they might get tough on it
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| Quote ="Cronus"At full speed it barely looks like anything untoward happens and, crucially, Harrison doesn't complain. In slow-mo, Hock's not actually looking at his right hand or Harrison's head when he grabs the head and reefs it backwards. From that perspective it's very unlikely he's deliberately targeting the eyes. Certainly not in the manner you see in RU from time-to-time.
However, a very nasty, unsavoury incident and no place for it in RL. I expect a decent ban, a season-ender which will see him out of contention for the 4 Nations.'"
That's what I thought. I looks like he was trying to give him a bit of a facial, not delikberatley targeting the eyes.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"That's what I thought. I looks like he was trying to give him a bit of a facial, not delikberatley targeting the eyes.'"
So why were his fingers clawed?
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"That's what I thought. I looks like he was trying to give him a bit of a facial, not delikberatley targeting the eyes.'"
So grabbing somebodys face , a face with eyes on it , maybe he should have shoved them down Harrisons throat and see what happened
Stop defending the muppet
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"That's what I thought. I looks like he was trying to give him a bit of a facial, not delikberatley targeting the eyes.'"
Being reckless as to whether you're fingers are in his eyes and making a pulling motion, isnt that much better than deliberately putting your fingers in his eyes and making a pulling motion.
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