Probably not, we didn't beat them in the WC or 06 Tri-Nations anyway. I still think it's wrong to just write us off reaching the final though.


Yes, is that what you are basing your negative view on? A squad from two years ago, dominated by Saints and Leeds players which reportedly didn't get along?

If Westwood doesn't make the tour after last night and all his consistent displays all season then McNamara needs sacking. Westwood for MOS.

Well tell me one centre in the world who is as good as Inglis! Lets be realistic and compare what we have.

Atkins has missed less tackles than Keith Senior (1), Michael Shenton (4) and Kirk Yeaman (12)

So, the best of what is available!

Yes you did, you beat us in Sydney. Mason decked Fielden. Sean Long starred, then buggered off home. I believe we've won four straight against you since. This Four Nations will be the 5th.



To everyone else, don't underestimate the Kiwis.

Was talking about the Kiwis

don't underestimate england then...

beating NZ in the opening game & beating PNG thus making the final is'nt beyond the realms of possibilities..in fact anything less would be a failure in my eyes....but the inevitable tanking by australia in the final would somehow put us back "miles behind australia AND NEW ZEALAND again by the doom mongerers



like i said a couple of weeks ago we can't win what ever we do...even if we win the bloody thing it'll be because australia let us