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| Quote David Gallop will remain as CEO for three to five years;
ARL supremo Colin Love will be the inaugural chairman for two years;'"
Meet the new boss....
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The worse thing about it all so far is that in the name of compromise we are going to get stuck with Love and Gallop for the next couple of years. Seems there's not much Love for Love!
www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... -kbyz.html
Quote No Love lost as ex-greats agree he's not the man
ADRIAN PROSZENKO AND JOSH RAKIC
December 6, 2009
SOME OF the most respected figures in rugby league fear the game's new independent commission will never live up to its name if current Australian Rugby League chief Colin Love is appointed as its inaugural chairman.
The greatest administrative shake-up in over a century of rugby league could be just weeks away, with the ARL and News Limited set to relinquish control of the NRL to a new eight-person committee.
However, there are concerns the new regime will simply be a mirror image of the previous one unless new and independent officials comprise the committee.
Love is currently the chairman of the Rugby League International Federation, the NSW Rugby League and the ARL. It's understood that he will be offered the chairmanship of the commission for its first two years.
The majority of league luminaries polled by The Sun-Herald were concerned that Love would remain the chief powerbroker in rugby league.
''I'm struggling to come up with a better name on the spot, but I'm sure I can come up with a better one than Colin Love,'' respected player-turned-analyst Greg Alexander fumed.
''I've got nothing personal against Colin, I think he's a terrific bloke. But if we're going to have an independent commission, f--- me dead, how can you have Colin Love as the chairman? You can quote me on that.
''Let's be serious. Really, there wouldn't be a league fan that would cop that.''
Former Brisbane prop Shane Webcke, touted in some circles as a potential commissioner, added: ''This isn't against Colin Love, but if it's going to be a new independent commission, then that's what it should be.
''Inevitably, people who have been mired in either side of the organisation in the past will have their bias towards the way their bit of the company used to think. And you can't blame people for that.
''The danger you run into there is you bring across the old ways of thinking. It would almost be a disadvantage to be involved in the administration of the game towards this point. What will really make this thing take off is if you've got some dynamic thinkers in there who have a passion for our game, business acumen and fresh ideas.
''To have change, you need to make change. For our game to move forward … you need a fresh approach. That's not a slur on anyone involved in the game at the moment, but if we're going to do it, let's do it on that basis.''
Former prime minister John Howard was initially sounded out for the position, but that plan was scrapped in favour of appointing Love. Several people currently involved in the game, who didn't want to be quoted, believe the move is a poor compromise in order to get the commission over the line.
Manly co-owner Max Delmege said the initial choice of Howard, an avid league fan, would have been the ''perfect'' choice. Asked about other potential candidates, the property magnate simply said: ''If it's going to be an independent commission, it's got to be independent.''
Several league greats, including Wally Lewis and Warren Ryan, nominated Gold Coast chief executive Michael Searle - the driving force behind the commission - as a potential chairman. While Ryan didn't have a definitive answer on the identity of the new chief, he stated: ''You'd tend to think if they wanted a fresh look, a new beginning, one of the current gang shouldn't be the boss.''
Those sentiments were echoed by former Broncos centre Steve Renouf, Kangaroos great Brad Clyde, former NSW hooker Ben Elias and the latest addition to Wayne Bennett's coaching staff, former Rooster Adrian Lam.
There was some support for Love, with Steve Mortimer, Wayne Pearce and Gary Belcher comfortable with his appointment.
''Colin is not linked to any NRL club and in my lifetime as a rugby league player, playing for the Bulldogs, NSW and Australia, I have found him to be a very decent person,'' Mortimer said. '"
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The worse thing about it all so far is that in the name of compromise we are going to get stuck with Love and Gallop for the next couple of years. Seems there's not much Love for Love!
www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... -kbyz.html
Quote No Love lost as ex-greats agree he's not the man
ADRIAN PROSZENKO AND JOSH RAKIC
December 6, 2009
SOME OF the most respected figures in rugby league fear the game's new independent commission will never live up to its name if current Australian Rugby League chief Colin Love is appointed as its inaugural chairman.
The greatest administrative shake-up in over a century of rugby league could be just weeks away, with the ARL and News Limited set to relinquish control of the NRL to a new eight-person committee.
However, there are concerns the new regime will simply be a mirror image of the previous one unless new and independent officials comprise the committee.
Love is currently the chairman of the Rugby League International Federation, the NSW Rugby League and the ARL. It's understood that he will be offered the chairmanship of the commission for its first two years.
The majority of league luminaries polled by The Sun-Herald were concerned that Love would remain the chief powerbroker in rugby league.
''I'm struggling to come up with a better name on the spot, but I'm sure I can come up with a better one than Colin Love,'' respected player-turned-analyst Greg Alexander fumed.
''I've got nothing personal against Colin, I think he's a terrific bloke. But if we're going to have an independent commission, f--- me dead, how can you have Colin Love as the chairman? You can quote me on that.
''Let's be serious. Really, there wouldn't be a league fan that would cop that.''
Former Brisbane prop Shane Webcke, touted in some circles as a potential commissioner, added: ''This isn't against Colin Love, but if it's going to be a new independent commission, then that's what it should be.
''Inevitably, people who have been mired in either side of the organisation in the past will have their bias towards the way their bit of the company used to think. And you can't blame people for that.
''The danger you run into there is you bring across the old ways of thinking. It would almost be a disadvantage to be involved in the administration of the game towards this point. What will really make this thing take off is if you've got some dynamic thinkers in there who have a passion for our game, business acumen and fresh ideas.
''To have change, you need to make change. For our game to move forward … you need a fresh approach. That's not a slur on anyone involved in the game at the moment, but if we're going to do it, let's do it on that basis.''
Former prime minister John Howard was initially sounded out for the position, but that plan was scrapped in favour of appointing Love. Several people currently involved in the game, who didn't want to be quoted, believe the move is a poor compromise in order to get the commission over the line.
Manly co-owner Max Delmege said the initial choice of Howard, an avid league fan, would have been the ''perfect'' choice. Asked about other potential candidates, the property magnate simply said: ''If it's going to be an independent commission, it's got to be independent.''
Several league greats, including Wally Lewis and Warren Ryan, nominated Gold Coast chief executive Michael Searle - the driving force behind the commission - as a potential chairman. While Ryan didn't have a definitive answer on the identity of the new chief, he stated: ''You'd tend to think if they wanted a fresh look, a new beginning, one of the current gang shouldn't be the boss.''
Those sentiments were echoed by former Broncos centre Steve Renouf, Kangaroos great Brad Clyde, former NSW hooker Ben Elias and the latest addition to Wayne Bennett's coaching staff, former Rooster Adrian Lam.
There was some support for Love, with Steve Mortimer, Wayne Pearce and Gary Belcher comfortable with his appointment.
''Colin is not linked to any NRL club and in my lifetime as a rugby league player, playing for the Bulldogs, NSW and Australia, I have found him to be a very decent person,'' Mortimer said. '"
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and the rest of the initial commision will be nominated by the ARL and News Ltd. as well
www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... -kbyy.html
Quote Top line-up for the game's fresh start
IAN HEADS
December 6, 2009
RUGBY league's leaders have promisingly nailed the first step as the game sets out on the pathway that will define its second century of existence.
The 16 NRL clubs have been summarily excused from duty when it comes to the all-important task of selecting the first eight members of the long-awaited independent commission.
And that's exactly as it should be, considering the historical penchant of clubs for the old standby of self-interest, a reality illuminated yet again by the decision (via club chief executives) during the week to flick-pass any expansion of the game for some years.
It may well turn out to be one of those decisions that is considered - then calmly set aside by the new commission. With no club input, the eight men (and/or women) of the C21 Commission will be picked instead by representatives of those on the opposite sides of the Great Divide - News Ltd and the ARL - in a final gesture before (hopefully) unity and professionalism reign at last, and the bells ring out.
The second leg of the Great Question remains unanswered: will the two sides at this last round-up have the guts and gumption, the genuine care for the game, to ignore past feuds and appeasing mates and politics and old favours owed - and pick instead a commission that is simply the best: a blue riband line-up of diverse, talented people to guide the game onwards and upwards in the face of a particularly challenging future?
Watch this space …
The gentler decisions have already been made. Legal eagles Colin Love (ARL) and David Gallop will stay on - Love for two years to chair the commission and Gallop, secure as NRL chief executive for three to five years.
That in place, now comes the harder, more lofty stuff. The quest must be for nothing less than recruitment of the best talent available, providing a commission that reflects a genuinely wide body of knowledge - sweeping all the way from deeply ingrained nous concerning the game itself to high-range media savvy, to financial expertise, to the ability to engage the community, to impeccable commercial and marketing skills, even to the rarified air of spectacular entrepreneurial flights.
This new and history-making body needs to be a resilient one, made up of tough, skilful and non-aligned people. Their job collectively will be to soar high above the other shareholders in rugby league's firmament - the clubs, players, coaches and referees - when it comes to the big calls, to at times make objective decisions that may bruise and disappoint but always with only one thing in mind: the greater good of the game.
To nudge the debate along, I'll respectfully throw in a name or two without notice from my distant vantage point of the recent seasons.
If the decision-makers can be big enough to forget the bloody noses of the Super League years, the bloke who now works from dawn to dusk on a magnificent Hunter Valley property should be a shoo-in for a call. If John Quayle, an outstanding general manager of the NSWRL (1983-96), still has enemies in the game, even they would surely agree that, in 2010, as a more polished and rounded campaigner, he possesses an unsurpassed pedigree for what is required, his skills honed in the recent years by his fine work on many of the world's major sporting festivals, starting with SOCOG at the Sydney Olympics of 2000.
Quayle loves rugby league from the top of his head to the soles of his feet. He should be invited back.
John Coates, the blunt and skilful Australian Olympic supremo, ranks as one of the world's premier sporting officials. Does he have an interest in rugby league? Well, yes - to the extent that he was even at one stage ABC radio's around-the grounds man at Lidcombe Oval!
Would he be interested in or available for the commission? I have no idea.
Shane Webcke, a highly successful businessman, ranks as one of the most interesting, intelligent and forthright players I have met in my (almost) 50 years in and around the game.
He has trodden on (official) toes in things he has said in his books but is deeply passionate about league, rails against misbehaviour by players, is both an internationalist and an expansionist - and is a tough hombre inclined to say exactly what he thinks.
As a recent retiree he would link the commission with the arcane world of the modern professional player, providing a valuable insight into that world.
Wayne Bennett rates him so highly he once declared: "If he decides to go into [Queensland politics, I can see him becoming premier."
Other names have been aired these recent weeks and there seems no doubt the selection panel will have a rich crop from which to pick, with someone like the highly regarded Katie Page near the top of that list. If they can get it right - without succumbing to matey old ways - it's a wonderfully exciting prospect for the game.
Beneath the supreme decision-making body, the other stakeholders will make their contributions and their recommendations - the clubs, the coaches, the country and junior bodies, the technical panel.
But the big calls about the game will be made at an entirely different altitude, where the word "independent" is the key to all.
Rugby league's ghosts of administrators past may well be circling this coming Christmas. I'm sure that the likes of J.J. Giltinan, Vic Trumper, Harry Sunderland, Jersey Flegg, Bill Buckley and all the rest would be chuffed by the giant leap that the game they helped create and shape is about to take.
Foundation day of the commission will take its place alongside epic administrative milestones of earlier years: the brave beginning, via the formation of the NSWRL (1907) and the QRA (later QRL) in 1908; the birth of the wider reaching Australian RL Board of Control (later ARL) in 1924; the arrival of the CRL in 1934; the rise of Kevin Humphreys with his New Deal of 1973; John Quayle and his ambitious and further-sighted reconstruction and Newer Deal (1983); then, the pulling out of the rug via the disastrous Super League split of 1995-97 and the fragile restoration of "peace" in December 1997, leading to the formation of the NRL in 1998 in and tentative steps back towards dry land.
Praise in the current process is due for sure to the likes of Michael Searle, who has been at the heart of this latest revolution; Steve "Turvey" Mortimer, who has championed it whenever the chance has arisen; and this newspaper's Phil Gould, who has campaigned so hard - plus, seemingly joining the throng, today's officials, who have taken a collective deep breath and with some pragmatism accepted the reality of irresistible change, even though it will diminish the role of numbers of them.
Potentially these are good times for rugby league as it muscles up for the challenges of the other codes. The remnants of the Super League era are to be finally flushed away. To celebrate, I would do only one more thing: rebrand the "new game" - call it Rugby League Australia - and under that unified banner set the sails for the 21st century.'"
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and the rest of the initial commision will be nominated by the ARL and News Ltd. as well
www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... -kbyy.html
Quote Top line-up for the game's fresh start
IAN HEADS
December 6, 2009
RUGBY league's leaders have promisingly nailed the first step as the game sets out on the pathway that will define its second century of existence.
The 16 NRL clubs have been summarily excused from duty when it comes to the all-important task of selecting the first eight members of the long-awaited independent commission.
And that's exactly as it should be, considering the historical penchant of clubs for the old standby of self-interest, a reality illuminated yet again by the decision (via club chief executives) during the week to flick-pass any expansion of the game for some years.
It may well turn out to be one of those decisions that is considered - then calmly set aside by the new commission. With no club input, the eight men (and/or women) of the C21 Commission will be picked instead by representatives of those on the opposite sides of the Great Divide - News Ltd and the ARL - in a final gesture before (hopefully) unity and professionalism reign at last, and the bells ring out.
The second leg of the Great Question remains unanswered: will the two sides at this last round-up have the guts and gumption, the genuine care for the game, to ignore past feuds and appeasing mates and politics and old favours owed - and pick instead a commission that is simply the best: a blue riband line-up of diverse, talented people to guide the game onwards and upwards in the face of a particularly challenging future?
Watch this space …
The gentler decisions have already been made. Legal eagles Colin Love (ARL) and David Gallop will stay on - Love for two years to chair the commission and Gallop, secure as NRL chief executive for three to five years.
That in place, now comes the harder, more lofty stuff. The quest must be for nothing less than recruitment of the best talent available, providing a commission that reflects a genuinely wide body of knowledge - sweeping all the way from deeply ingrained nous concerning the game itself to high-range media savvy, to financial expertise, to the ability to engage the community, to impeccable commercial and marketing skills, even to the rarified air of spectacular entrepreneurial flights.
This new and history-making body needs to be a resilient one, made up of tough, skilful and non-aligned people. Their job collectively will be to soar high above the other shareholders in rugby league's firmament - the clubs, players, coaches and referees - when it comes to the big calls, to at times make objective decisions that may bruise and disappoint but always with only one thing in mind: the greater good of the game.
To nudge the debate along, I'll respectfully throw in a name or two without notice from my distant vantage point of the recent seasons.
If the decision-makers can be big enough to forget the bloody noses of the Super League years, the bloke who now works from dawn to dusk on a magnificent Hunter Valley property should be a shoo-in for a call. If John Quayle, an outstanding general manager of the NSWRL (1983-96), still has enemies in the game, even they would surely agree that, in 2010, as a more polished and rounded campaigner, he possesses an unsurpassed pedigree for what is required, his skills honed in the recent years by his fine work on many of the world's major sporting festivals, starting with SOCOG at the Sydney Olympics of 2000.
Quayle loves rugby league from the top of his head to the soles of his feet. He should be invited back.
John Coates, the blunt and skilful Australian Olympic supremo, ranks as one of the world's premier sporting officials. Does he have an interest in rugby league? Well, yes - to the extent that he was even at one stage ABC radio's around-the grounds man at Lidcombe Oval!
Would he be interested in or available for the commission? I have no idea.
Shane Webcke, a highly successful businessman, ranks as one of the most interesting, intelligent and forthright players I have met in my (almost) 50 years in and around the game.
He has trodden on (official) toes in things he has said in his books but is deeply passionate about league, rails against misbehaviour by players, is both an internationalist and an expansionist - and is a tough hombre inclined to say exactly what he thinks.
As a recent retiree he would link the commission with the arcane world of the modern professional player, providing a valuable insight into that world.
Wayne Bennett rates him so highly he once declared: "If he decides to go into [Queensland politics, I can see him becoming premier."
Other names have been aired these recent weeks and there seems no doubt the selection panel will have a rich crop from which to pick, with someone like the highly regarded Katie Page near the top of that list. If they can get it right - without succumbing to matey old ways - it's a wonderfully exciting prospect for the game.
Beneath the supreme decision-making body, the other stakeholders will make their contributions and their recommendations - the clubs, the coaches, the country and junior bodies, the technical panel.
But the big calls about the game will be made at an entirely different altitude, where the word "independent" is the key to all.
Rugby league's ghosts of administrators past may well be circling this coming Christmas. I'm sure that the likes of J.J. Giltinan, Vic Trumper, Harry Sunderland, Jersey Flegg, Bill Buckley and all the rest would be chuffed by the giant leap that the game they helped create and shape is about to take.
Foundation day of the commission will take its place alongside epic administrative milestones of earlier years: the brave beginning, via the formation of the NSWRL (1907) and the QRA (later QRL) in 1908; the birth of the wider reaching Australian RL Board of Control (later ARL) in 1924; the arrival of the CRL in 1934; the rise of Kevin Humphreys with his New Deal of 1973; John Quayle and his ambitious and further-sighted reconstruction and Newer Deal (1983); then, the pulling out of the rug via the disastrous Super League split of 1995-97 and the fragile restoration of "peace" in December 1997, leading to the formation of the NRL in 1998 in and tentative steps back towards dry land.
Praise in the current process is due for sure to the likes of Michael Searle, who has been at the heart of this latest revolution; Steve "Turvey" Mortimer, who has championed it whenever the chance has arisen; and this newspaper's Phil Gould, who has campaigned so hard - plus, seemingly joining the throng, today's officials, who have taken a collective deep breath and with some pragmatism accepted the reality of irresistible change, even though it will diminish the role of numbers of them.
Potentially these are good times for rugby league as it muscles up for the challenges of the other codes. The remnants of the Super League era are to be finally flushed away. To celebrate, I would do only one more thing: rebrand the "new game" - call it Rugby League Australia - and under that unified banner set the sails for the 21st century.'"
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He is another rah rah/AFL sycophant.
You sure can pick 'em...
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He is another rah rah/AFL sycophant.
You sure can pick 'em...
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| is there any journalist you rate?
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| Not many I'll give you the tip...
Steve Ricketts is a true believer - and a nice guy - at The Courier Mail. Same with Bernie Pramberg there.
Steve Mascord's heart is in the right place.
Roy Masters is a good friend and highly knowledgeable about the game.
(This is Australia only)
Few others are worth a pinch of crap.
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