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| I'm come in peace as I'm not a Bulls fan, but Nestegg you seem to just be making people who are pretty down about the state of there club feel that there is no hope and things are even worse than they think.
I think just doing this on a public forum if you are a group of people who want to take the club forward is very unprofessional. Your view will turn the loyal fans on here away from the club. Surely that isn't wise if you wise the best for the club. Your "It's crap now but this is the tip of the iceberg" doesn't help people.
My personal view is your just picking bits up and pretending you know stuff. Are you Derrek Akora? You like someone you sticks a knife in the bouncy castle at a kids party.
This "I know stuff but aren't telling" only keeps peoples interest for a short while.
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| Quote ="nestegg"A serious question here Dillgaf - do you trust Nigel?'"
I would rather stand butt naked with my back turned in a cell with Hannibal Lecter than trust Nigel myself *I know he didn't ask me*.
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| Quote ="Dannyboywt"I'm come in peace as I'm not a Bulls fan, but Nestegg you seem to just be making people who are pretty down about the state of there club feel that there is no hope and things are even worse than they think.
I think just doing this on a public forum if you are a group of people who want to take the club forward is very unprofessional. Your view will turn the loyal fans on here away from the club. Surely that isn't wise if you wise the best for the club. Your "It's crap now but this is the tip of the iceberg" doesn't help people.
My personal view is your just picking bits up and pretending you know stuff. Are you Derrek Akora? You like someone you sticks a knife in the bouncy castle at a kids party.
This "I know stuff but aren't telling" only keeps peoples interest for a short while.'"
You are entitled to your opinion Danny boy, even if it is wrong.
We do admit, however, that it is an unusual approach, but you do not see the ever growing plethora of supportive PM's we receive do you?
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| Don't worry lads and lasses, The RFL have thoroughly investigated everything and it's all rosey... [urlhttps://www.rugby-league.com/article/55942/odsal-stadium-and-bradford-bulls-chronology[/url
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| Nestegg supporting what exactly? I can't see anything you said that can be supported. Or positive for that matter.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"bulls fans, i seem to recall through these takeover sagas during the last 10 years, you always had some sort of sneak, 5th columnist, gobe on here leaking information and keeping ppl on edge, am i right in what i remember?
also, if that was the case, at any point, did any of the alleged sources on here ever become successful in taking over the club?'"
Ohhh yess.
Every time. Without fail. You'd think they'd get fed up, wouldn't you? We call them ITKs (In The Knows) pretending they have info, which (obviously) they can neither share nor say how they are privy to it. Then, to answer your final point, they often turn up after the event saying how they knew all along.
Some get angry at these people, but I find it best to ignore them in the main as the only real emotion they elicit is "oh no, not again" Can you have turbo-charged ennui - or is that an oxy moron?
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| Quote ="Dannyboywt"Nestegg supporting what exactly? I can't see anything you said that can be supported. Or positive for that matter.'"
=#4000BFThat with respect is very much your problem mate.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"We call them ITKs '"
I call them something entirely different, but it's not something I'm allowed to post on a public forum without donating a large amount of money to a virtual swear jar.
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| Damnit, 100
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"FFS'"
10 posts per page fella!
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| Quote ="nestegg"So tell us Mat how can a club owner and virtual sole BB17 shareholder rack up huge debts against himself, in particular debts now rumoured to be a mid to high six figure sum?
We have good reason to believe AC had no substantial funds, and thus could not in all likelihood have lent the club any meaningful money. He did not (as far as far as we are aware) take out any direct/ indirect Director loans, and did not provide any services of note to the club. Moreover, his own (in effect liquidated NZ recruitment company) were a club sponsor - Lowie Recruitment.
Spoke to a partner at KPMG earlier today who is a friend of Charles' and they just couldn't see how AC could be a major 'creditor'. That said, due to the abridged nature of the sole BB17 accounts published to date it is nigh on impossible to identify any big ticket cost items in and out of the Profit and Loss Account.
It all seems to be a perverse way of legitimising the alleged scam that is AC writing off his allegedly fabricated gargantuan debt in return for a purported 7% share in the BB17 business moving forward. A 'business' which in any event is literally on it's knees and at this time is we aver grossly insolvent.
That said, 'we' as always will we willing to be proven to be 100% wrong. We are all ears.
So would we buy a 2020 Bulls season ticket for cash at this time? NO, yet remarkably some 15 plus fans shelled out circa £3000 plus in hard earned cash during the forum events. If (or when) the club goes belly up we trust that Wood and Sawyer will repay those poor souls in full. If not, our new and credible consortium will fully honour their season tickets (ideally at Odsal), and in addition we will definitely offer 100% free coach travel to any home games at the Tetley's stadium.
And what is Stuart Duffy still doing there? We know why, and would like to explain what we know in that regard in due course in court, where we would of course have the benefit of full legal privilege.'"
I have had my disagreements with some toxic s on this forum but you really are the worst. Your partner in Peats (I was a Management Consultant there 30 years ago) should understand that either AC or a mate of his put in the amounts owing over 1 year (£670K iirc I cannot be bothered to check back).
From what I have seen of your posts, I think that someone has stuck a Dictkionary of Business Truisms up the exit end of your alimentary canal with such force the bull truisms come bursting forth from your mouth and brain. In one post you are saying that the creditors are overwhelming, in the next sentence you are accusing the new consortium of asset stripping. You wouldn't know an Arset stripper if he waved his dong at you off the top of the City Hall.
You have read Mein Kampf, haven't you. The bit where Adolf says the Big Lie is best (echoes of Boris) because it sticks iin the mind, and the little lies all resonate with the big lie. My conclusion is therefore that the business truisms are the small lies, and you PEST-NEG are the big lie.
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| There are a lot of people on here allowing themselves to get wound up.
Do you really think prospective owners would come on here and do what they are doing?
If they were telling the truth they would be in big trouble when:
> they need those same supporters to part with their money to give to them in future as we have long memories
> They become known and there will be a few hot heads decide to get their own back.
Come on everyone, think about it. They will never be known as they are gradually letting their mask slip as they start having a go at more people than Duffy. He is now insinuating that Sawyer has something to hide.
Do Not reply to any post. Switch out the spotlight on his posts and they will dry up.
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| Quote ="woolly07"There are a lot of people on here allowing themselves to get wound up.
Do you really think prospective owners would come on here and do what they are doing?
If they were telling the truth they would be in big trouble when:
> they need those same supporters to part with their money to give to them in future as we have long memories
> They become known and there will be a few hot heads decide to get their own back.
Come on everyone, think about it. They will never be known as they are gradually letting their mask slip as they start having a go at more people than Duffy. He is now insinuating that Sawyer has something to hide.
Do Not reply to any post. Switch out the spotlight on his posts and they will dry up.'"
Sorry but I need to reply sarcastically.
You're forgetting the droves of PMs they're receiving proclaiming support. Nobody has supported in public to back it up, but absolutely loads of people are doing it in private where nothing can be proven. They're not at all imaginary, much like the other facts that are totally true but they can't tell us for legal reasons.
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| Quote ="martinwildbull"I have had my disagreements with some toxic s on this forum but you really are the worst. Your partner in Peats (I was a Management Consultant there 30 years ago) should understand that either AC or a mate of his put in the amounts owing over 1 year (£670K iirc I cannot be bothered to check back).
From what I have seen of your posts, I think that someone has stuck a Dictkionary of Business Truisms up the exit end of your alimentary canal with such force the bull truisms come bursting forth from your mouth and brain. In one post you are saying that the creditors are overwhelming, in the next sentence you are accusing the new consortium of asset stripping. You wouldn't know an Arset stripper if he waved his dong at you off the top of the City Hall.
You have read Mein Kampf, haven't you. The bit where Adolf says the Big Lie is best (echoes of Boris) because it sticks iin the mind, and the little lies all resonate with the big lie. My conclusion is therefore that the business truisms are the small lies, and you PEST-NEG are the big lie.'"
Send us a PM mate and we can conclude our candid debate there. This is a topic which is too factious for an open forum and will prove to be yet another distraction. Your emotions are clearly getting the better of you (again). The last thing we want is for you to burst a blood vessel.
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| Interesting piece by Ross Hepponstall on the Patreon website.Hes done an interview with Mark Sawyer.I might be going over old ground and all this is already out there,if so just ignore this post and apologies.Anyway Sawyer is quoted as saying.
(1)He is the biggest single shareholder with 24%.
(2)The actual Wood family themselves have around a 33% share.Nigel Wood himself less than the 24% that Sawyer has.
(3)Its expected Stephen Wood(Nigels brother)who owns a law firm in Bradford will take a seat on the board.
(4)Andrew Chalmers was actually owed around £300.000.
(5)Around 600 season tickets sold for next season.
(6)£300.000 central funding expected to be received for next season.
(7)Hoping to boost the shareholding with smaller stakeholders over the coming days.
Like I say this might already out there.I havant had the time or the inclination to go over all of the 100 pages.
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| Quote ="Johnbulls"Interesting piece by Ross Hepponstall on the Patreon website.Hes done an interview with Mark Sawyer.I might be going over old ground and all this is already out there,if so just ignore this post and apologies.Anyway Sawyer is quoted as saying.
(1)He is the biggest single shareholder with 24%.
(2)The actual Wood family themselves have around a 33% share.Nigel Wood himself less than the 24% that Sawyer has.
(3)Its expected Stephen Wood(Nigels brother)who owns a law firm in Bradford will take a seat on the board.
(4)Andrew Chalmers was actually owed around £300.000.
(5)Around 600 season tickets sold for next season.
(6)£300.000 central funding expected to be received for next season.
(7)Hoping to boost the shareholding with smaller stakeholders over the coming days.
Like I say this might already out there.I havant had the time or the inclination to go over all of the 100 pages.'"
I trust Ross 5000 times more than I trust other "sources". Interesting to see the 600 season tickets mentioned when it's being quoted as 1,200 elsewhere. More bulls hit from the usual suspects?
And again the question of shareholders comes up. This is what I mean when I say the constant smoke & mirrors is putting me right off. If Sawyer owns 24.999999% and the Woods own 33.333333%, that still leaves approx 42% that we're not aware of. So who the F*** owns that?
We've been saying for ages that if they want the fans to buy into things, they need to be absolutely open and honest about the situation. It feels like it's far from open and honest. As usual.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"I trust Ross 5000 times more than I trust other "sources". Interesting to see the 600 season tickets mentioned when it's being quoted as 1,200 elsewhere. More bulls hit from the usual suspects?
And again the question of shareholders comes up. This is what I mean when I say the constant smoke & mirrors is putting me right off. If Sawyer owns 24.999999% and the Woods own 33.333333%, that still leaves approx 42% that we're not aware of. So who the F*** owns that?
We've been saying for ages that if they want the fans to buy into things, they need to be absolutely open and honest about the situation. It feels like it's far from open and honest. As usual.'"
Totally agree regarding Ross.According to MS at the moment nobody owns the other 42% and there looking to bring other people in.Make of that what you will.
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| (3)Its expected Stephen Wood(Nigels brother)who owns a law firm in Bradford will take a seat on the board.
That's a concern considering the legal entity who was a Bulls shareholder and starting the financial ball rolling downhill!
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| It was openly said at forum Woods family own shares as well as NW himself
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| Quote ="Betsy Bulls"It was openly said at forum Woods family own shares as well as NW himself'"
Yes that's right.MS was making the point it's nothing like the 75%figure which is been bandied about by some in the media.
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| “600 Season Tickets sold” If you go to Season Ticket site, according to the seating plan shown there, over 600 SEATS have been sold. So have no terrace tickets gone at all?
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| Quote ="Blotto"(3)Its expected Stephen Wood(Nigels brother)who owns a law firm in Bradford will take a seat on the board.
That's a concern considering the legal entity who was a Bulls shareholder and starting the financial ball rolling downhill!'"
Steve is not a lawyer
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