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| Quote ="Highlander"Ooh, a lamb/calvert/watt supergroup....
Interesting.
It's like X-factor, find the better businessmen in their groups, drop the others & force them together.
Who said the RFL didn't have their finger on the pulse of reality TV style Saturday night entertainment!'"
Nigel Wood - Ant
Ralph Rimmer - Dec
Blake Solly ???????? - Tom Bailey?????
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"There's a lot of weird stuff going on, but one huge questionmark is this: on the one hand, we've been led to believe that in the new owners we had some pretty level-headed businessmen who insisted in dissecting and crunching the numbers and changing a failed business into one that lived within its means going forward - and had the financial expertise to do this; on the other hand we have the RFL basically saying that they were not convinced by these people at all, and were short of the two fundamental planks, a viable business plan end evidence of funding, and were asking for another half a million advance just to keep going.
I can't quite match the two positions up.'"
It looks like theres some very carefully worded accusations made in both ststements from moore and RFL. One thing I noticed is that RFL statement didnt actually address many/any of accusations levelled by moore and instead raised a series of counter complaints.
When RFL refer to 500k advanc being asked for do they mean on top of normal funding or are they lumping the 300k extra sky payment into the 500k figure?.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Hang on, the Sky report says there are two offers on the table?
We know about Lamb, but who has made the other offer?'"
I think that Blake Solly getting muddled up, the administator clearly stated that whilst there were four interested parties there was only two bids received, the current (now-ex) incumbents and Richard Lambs. I know who i would believe in this case.
I doubt if the other two interested parties decided not to bid before the latest events then they won't want to know now. And if OK is sniffing around again it can only be because he wants his money back somehow so that is a non-starter. The only hope is Lamb but he put an interesting caveat in his speil yesterday saying how it depends on what the books say etc. Well if it correct that the RFL are paying the wages on friday then they are not going to be doing it out of the goodness of their heart, it will be coming from monies owing from sponsorship, TV etc. Probably mainly from the 300K which I doubt would have been handed over yet whilst the ownership was still incomplete. The chances are Lamb may well decide to walk away or if he does put an offer in it may well be for less than previously. Either way if he doesn't have very deep pockets then without major cuts immediately in all areas the situation won't change and the losses will mount back up. It really is the biggest mess and it may have to get even worse (if you believe that is possible) before it gets better.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"There's a lot of weird stuff going on, but one huge questionmark is this: on the one hand, we've been led to believe that in the new owners we had some pretty level-headed businessmen who insisted in dissecting and crunching the numbers and changing a failed business into one that lived within its means going forward - and had the financial expertise to do this; on the other hand we have the RFL basically saying that they were not convinced by these people at all, and were short of the two fundamental planks, a viable business plan end evidence of funding, and were asking for another half a million advance just to keep going.
I can't quite match the two positions up.'"
Quote BBC - But RFL chief operating officer Ralph Rimmer said the situation was of the club's own making, caused by an attempt by Moore and former chairman Ryan Whitcut to purchase the Bulls using the club's own money.
"Throughout our dealings with them, the club's directors were unable to provide any evidence of new capital investment into Bradford Bulls and consequently, the RFL Executive had no confidence in the business plan that was presented," said Rimmer.
"We will continue to work with the administrator to find a solvent and viable solution for the club and will provide an update to the other Super League clubs at their scheduled meeting on Wednesday."
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Purchasing a company with its own money used to be illegal; not sure if it still is.
Clearly according to the RFL, they were not actually putting their hands in their own pockets to fund this; not much of a vote of confidence by these saintly "saviours". Has Moore & Co said anything about using any of their own cash?
If the RFL are correct, then their bid was about as much use as a chocolate teapot. The OK group also funded it with loans, instead of capital.
I hope for the fans and the club that this nightmare comes to an end soon as you all deserve much much better. SL needs the Bulls, so good luck to you all.
(p.s. I am disgusted but not surprised that the SL Clubs including my club took the share of withheld the sky distribution. Kicking someone who is down - disgraceful behaviour)
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| Saints were one of the 5 who voted against I think. Don't worry about it.
I've said before that Whitcut seems to be the only constant in this whole sorry saga (in chronological order - Ok's right hand man, then general manager, then director (with others), then director by himself (when he took out the debenture), then potential owner, then not fit or proper... so I would think he'll have the answers. Hopefully the administrators report will illuminate some of it.
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| Quote ="Highlander"Saints were one of the 5 who voted against I think. Don't worry about it.
I've said before that Whitcut seems to be the only constant in this whole sorry saga (in chronological order - Ok's right hand man, then general manager, then director (with others), then director by himself (when he took out the debenture), then potential owner, then not fit or proper... so I would think he'll have the answers. Hopefully the administrators report will illuminate some of it.'"
Indeed. Although that horse has bolted now.
Maybe it will also shed some light on what happened between last Thursday and yesterday?
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| Quote ="Highlander"I've said before that Whitcut seems to be the only constant in this whole sorry saga (in chronological order - Ok's right hand man, then general manager, then director (with others), then director by himself (when he took out the debenture), then potential owner, then not fit or proper... so I would think he'll have the answers. '"
I am sure that you are 100% correct, although whether some on here will accept your theory that whitcut is/was dodgy is another thing.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Hang on, the Sky report says there are two offers on the table?
We know about Lamb, but who has made the other offer?'"
Rumours on Twitter saying an offer coming in is a game changer.
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| Quote ="The Doghead"Rumours on Twitter saying an offer coming in is a game changer.'"
Yeah it was tony Hannan
Could it be the city rumour again?
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| Game Changer? Money changer more likely as thats what anybody would need. A smart businessman without a lot of money (Calvert Moore etc) would not take on this albatross, but for a really stupid business man with loads of money... its a no brainer!!!
I rest my case that the RFL have decided that the only way forward is the sugardaddy way.
(editicon_smile.gif Now where was I with that hokey cokey squad list?
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| Quote ="ex Bull Dog"Yeah it was tony Hannan
Could it be the city rumour again?'"
I'm led to believe it is a football back ground but not the two bit operation from VP.
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| Champions League money!!
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| Dukla Prague. The away kit's in City colours though so we can't be having that.
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| One of the serious bids for the club to the administrators is from Omar Khan. You couldn't make it up even if you tried.
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| Rimmed banging on about the integrity of the game! Is that what they were doing when they were makin secret loans and telling bare faced lies about the sale of the lease?
So it now turns out that the bb2014 did not ask for half a million advancement they asked to spread the cut in sky money over five years.
A bit of honesty from the sports governing body wouldn't go amiss.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Rimmed banging on about the integrity of the game! Is that what they were doing when they were makin secret loans and telling bare faced lies about the sale of the lease?
So it now turns out that the bb2014 did not ask for half a million advancement they asked to spread the cut in sky money over five years.
A bit of honesty from the sports governing body wouldn't go amiss.'"
Honesty? Don't be silly.
Can't anyone tell us the bl00dy truth.
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| Quote ="Frosties."One of the serious bids for the club to the administrators is from Omar Khan. You couldn't make it up even if you tried.'"
It's so bizarre, it has to be true.
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| Would Omar Kahn pass the RFL fit and proper test this time around?
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"Would Omar Kahn pass the RFL fit and proper test this time around?'"
Possibly not.
Extract from RFL bye-laws:
"Any person who was a director of or was concerned in the management of any member at the time at which any Insolvency Event or similar event occurred or at any time in the period of 12 months before any such Insolvency Event or similar event occurred shall not be entitled to become or to remain a director of that or any other member unless that person shall have shown good cause to the reasonable satisfaction of the Board as to his/her fitness to be such a director and no member shall engage or retain any such person as a director."
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| I guess that's some form of good news then.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Rimmed banging on about the integrity of the game! Is that what they were doing when they were makin secret loans and telling bare faced lies about the sale of the lease?
So it now turns out that the bb2014 did not ask for half a million advancement they asked to spread the cut in sky money over five years.
A bit of honesty from the sports governing body wouldn't go amiss.'"
I think last line of this post should be on the admin bingo thread
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| Quote ="vbfg"Dukla Prague. The away kit's in City colours though so we can't be having that.'"
That's all I want for Christmas.
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| we had all the lies at wakey, until micheal carter took over, he as transformed our club, and he seems to tell the truth , but only time will tell,
im sure someone will pop up and save you guys and i hope you can stay up alongf with wakey
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| Quote ="vbfg"Dukla Prague. The away kit's in City colours though so we can't be having that.'"
Surely, it depends on what order it's in? We can always add a bit of black..
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| Quote ="tigertot"That's all I want for Christmas.'"
Bravo.
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