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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"I can't see the money being available to pay off both Huddersfield and St Helens for their prized assets.
IF Orford does move on and we are successful at negotiating a transfer payment.
I expect the said transfer payment to be the stumbling block lifted between ourselves and St Helens in bringing back the prince of Manningham to Odsal.
Which will only bring positives in signing him, as he has experience of Odsal and big game experience to help us win and shut out games.
Not to mention him being a player that the lost supporters can relate to, in that the 10,000 pledges would sort themselves them out from Pryce arriving alone.
The only problem being that with only 22 days left till the pledge deadline, can this situation be sorted to our benefit?'"
its a problem from the supporters point of view, wanting the cheapest possible season ticket. Not sure its a problem from clubs point of view. say we fall short of 10k and get 8k. club then sets ticket price at whatever the figure was for 8k (75 ish I think). they then announce pryce signing after deadline and get an extra few thousand season ticket sales at £75 thus getting more income than they would have done if the 10k was reached.
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| obst is a pile of $hite
robbo is ok but not a good enough organiser
barrte would be amazing if we lured him outa retirement
ben black aint bad....hes young and attacks the line quite well
lockyer isnt exactley far off menzies ..............great kicking game and a good organiser
an organising half is what we need
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| Quote ="mat"its a problem from the supporters point of view, wanting the cheapest possible season ticket. Not sure its a problem from clubs point of view. say we fall short of 10k and get 8k. club then sets ticket price at whatever the figure was for 8k (75 ish I think). they then announce pryce signing after deadline and get an extra few thousand season ticket sales at £75 thus getting more income than they would have done if the 10k was reached.'"
I'll agree with that, but it would be of more benefit if the Orford/Pryce soap could come to a conclusion before the pledge deadline.
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| leon has had a fall out at the club
something to do with an "incident" with the assistant coach or something like that
not sure but what i have heard
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"I think Obst is just average but has stood out in a very poor team, btw he is 31 next year.'"
Similar to what Danny Orr was doing at Castleford in 2000/2001?
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| Quote ="rl crazy"leon has had a fall out at the club
something to do with an "incident" with the assistant coach or something like that
not sure but what i have heard'"
We know that something has gone on, hence him telling half of Bradford that he want's to be a Bradford player next year.
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| Quote ="rl crazy"obst is a pile of $hite
robbo is ok but not a good enough organiser
barrte would be amazing if we lured him outa retirement
ben black aint bad....hes young and attacks the line quite well
lockyer isnt exactley far off menzies ..............great kicking game and a good organiser
an organising half is what we need'"
That is a no go for a start.
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| obst is rubbish...stands out in a naff team..................at us he would provide nothing and a waste of a valuable quota spot
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| never know..............money does work wonders
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| Quote ="rl crazy"obst is a pile of $hite
robbo is ok but not a good enough organiser
barrte would be amazing if we lured him outa retirement
ben black aint bad....hes young and attacks the line quite well
lockyer isnt exactley far off menzies ..............great kicking game and a good organiser
an organising half is what we need'"
If Ben Black was that good a super league team would have snapped him up. Barrett wouldn't be amazing. He's not an organiser for a start, much more a running stand off. Lockyer is at least 3 years younger than Menzies, not that i am doubting his talent.
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| lockyer would be 34 just after the start of the season..............menzies came to us at 35....like you said he would come over here when he is menzies age......................a bit of money for 2 years would be absolutley fantastic
braith anasta ?
a 6 who has been playing 13 half of this season..............or chris sandow from souths....a small bloke who can put in a great shot
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| Quote ="rl crazy"lockyer would be 34 just after the start of the season..............menzies came to us at 35....like you said he would come over here when he is menzies age......................a bit of money for 2 years would be absolutley fantastic
braith anasta ?
a 6 who has been playing 13 half of this season..............or chris sandow from souths....a small bloke who can put in a great shot'"
It's alright saying names that play in NRL. It's getting them over.
Lockyer - Already on a good wage! Why would he come over? Menzies came cause Manly weren't prepared to offer him a new contract.
Anasta - Is on stupid money already.
Sandow - Young aussie half back playing first team rugby. We really ain't going to get him.
You really need someone out of contract.
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| most are signed up already.....trent hodkinson would have been very good but gone to he doggies
kimmorley or has he announced hes retiring ?
i dont think much to him but would have him for a season until we can get hold of a descetn aussie
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| Quote ="dixie"It's alright saying names that play in NRL. It's getting them over.
Lockyer - Already on a good wage! Why would he come over? Menzies came cause Manly weren't prepared to offer him a new contract.
Anasta - Is on stupid money already.
Sandow - Young aussie half back playing first team rugby. We really ain't going to get him.
You really need someone out of contract.'"
I don't know whether Menzies was offered a contract by Manly or not but he was handsomely paid by Bulls. Don't get me wrong he was a true champion player for us and can only be thought of as a legend. However, I think the time was right to part company with him because the cash can be / has been spread over more than one player as a result. Lockyer would demand a similarly high contract as his name would ensure a large number of clubs would be after him if it became clear that Brisbane would be prepared to release him. If Orford does go with the cash already left in the salary cap and his salary (no idea what that may be but I bet it's less than the amounts reported in the press- he would still probably be the highest player at the club as Scrum Halves usually are) I'd like us to sign a 6 and a 7. Two specialists in those positions is better than one superstar and the rest of the team playing out of position to accomodate a 6 who is naturally a full back or centre.
The best outcome of course would be for Orford to stay and us to sign a specialist 6 to partner him but that is sadly looking increasingly unlikely.
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| Excellent. Another Orford thread.
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| If we were going to take a punt on any Championship player I would only have Kyle Briggs of Featherstone who had a blinder on Thursday in the 46-16 defeat of Halifax at Post Office Road.
He looks a super prospect although he won't come cheap.
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| Quote ="rl crazy"most are signed up already.....trent hodkinson would have been very good but gone to he doggies
kimmorley or has he announced hes retiring ?
i dont think much to him but would have him for a season until we can get hold of a descetn aussie'"
I think your head is in the clouds. Just a bit.
Unless out of contract, i highly doubt we'll get any "name" from Aus.
Quote ="Mick Gledhill"If we were going to take a punt on any Championship player I would only have Kyle Briggs of Featherstone who had a blinder on Thursday in the 46-16 defeat of Halifax at Post Office Road.
He looks a super prospect although he won't come cheap.'"
He did some plastering in our house earlier this year. I don't think he'd want mega money!
Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Quote ="dixie"It's alright saying names that play in NRL. It's getting them over.
Lockyer - Already on a good wage! Why would he come over? Menzies came cause Manly weren't prepared to offer him a new contract.
Anasta - Is on stupid money already.
Sandow - Young aussie half back playing first team rugby. We really ain't going to get him.
You really need someone out of contract.'"
I don't know whether Menzies was offered a contract by Manly or not but he was handsomely paid by Bulls. Don't get me wrong he was a true champion player for us and can only be thought of as a legend. However, I think the time was right to part company with him because the cash can be / has been spread over more than one player as a result. Lockyer would demand a similarly high contract as his name would ensure a large number of clubs would be after him if it became clear that Brisbane would be prepared to release him. If Orford does go with the cash already left in the salary cap and his salary (no idea what that may be but I bet it's less than the amounts reported in the press- he would still probably be the highest player at the club as Scrum Halves usually are) I'd like us to sign a 6 and a 7. Two specialists in those positions is better than one superstar and the rest of the team playing out of position to accomodate a 6 who is naturally a full back or centre.
The best outcome of course would be for Orford to stay and us to sign a specialist 6 to partner him but that is sadly looking increasingly unlikely.'"
I didn't say it was wrong to get rid of Menzies... Just the comparison that lockyer is younger than menzies and would almost certainly be demanding a much higher wage, with a lot more clubs interested. Not realistic at all.
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| Quote ="rl crazy"obst is rubbish...stands out in a naff team..................at us he would provide nothing and a waste of a valuable quota spot'"
But he would be the next best player after Robbinson who I can't for one minute see coming to us.
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| Quote ="dixie"I didn't say it was wrong to get rid of Menzies... Just the comparison that lockyer is younger than menzies and would almost certainly be demanding a much higher wage, with a lot more clubs interested. Not realistic at all.'"
I agree if we released Menzies to help squad depth surely signing Lockyer defeats the object.
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| other clubs interested but not many who would have cap soace like we do...........208 k or there abouts from orford ? we could make an offer but i think he is contracted for 2011
not really highley unlikley either......we would have the money to pay a transfer fee
another punt at greg bird ? ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"But he would be the next best player after Robbinson who I can't for one minute see coming to us.'"
obst would be a terrible signing
better off gettin briggs or black from nl 1
with the orford money we coould buy either one and get a specialist 6 fro them to work with and progress as players
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| or we say to canberra no transfer fee...........................but we will tak Terry Campese off you ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| orford to canberra for no transfer fee....but we take Terry Campese from them ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"I agree if we released Menzies to help squad depth surely signing Lockyer defeats the object.'"
Surely releasing Menzies was to free quota spot rather than squad depth, maybe both.
Anyway, i never suggested even signing Lockyer. However only a foolish team would turn down the opportunity to sign arguably the best stand off in the world.
I really don't believe we can attract any of the names touted on this thread. The same would go for any super league team. My point was more to rl crazy that you just can't expect to sign any NRL "name" just because we got Orford ( a player who it seems doesn't want to be here anymore).
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