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| I think the conditions dictated most of the play today. Freezing cold, constant driving rain and a pitch that looked quite heavy underfoot.
We were quite rusty with the ball but in all honesty, were never really threatened by Whitehaven. They just couldn't gather any momentum and our pack was on top for pretty much the full 80.
The usual suspects ran the show. Gaskell, Sidlow, Pitts and AoB all looked like SL players playing in a lower division. Olbison and Clough also put in some decent shifts.
I think next week will be a far sterner test for us. I suspect we'll line up with Mullaney at 7, Shaw at full back and Ulugia brought in to the side to play wing/centre.
In today's other games, no real surprises apart from that score at Sheffield - they beat London 40-6!!
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| Great start to the afternoon, paid fifty quid for car parking but was told it was "full". At 215, against Whitehaven, in shoite weather. Bloody Fred Karno's. X spaces, so just issue X passes, it's not bloody rocket science.
The weather spoiled the game. We were well in command throughout, but still managed to give up masses of possession, especially in the first half, hopefully it was the conditions but very frustrating to watch the ball being repeatedly turned over.
But we did show some very good attack in many spells, and look very dangerous when on the front foot, Whitehaven found our pack a handful. Sidlow and Pitts were good, and Tahraoui (sp?) looked useful as he got going. Big lad, that. Gaskell may be the class of the division, and Siejka had a better day. Even got the biggest cheer when he actually kicked a goal.
I think what most impressed me was our defence. Maybe after the second half Leigh debacle they decided that can't happen again, whatever, Haven were almost never in danger of scoring. Despite some excellent positional kicking.
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| TBH think Whitehaven could have quite easily gone in ahead at ht. they fluffed a couple of chances at taking lead late in 1st half. We looked very nervy in first half. That said we settled and showed decent improvement to close game out in 2nd half.
Mullaney looked like a poke to eye, so hopefully ok for next week. With lauaki close to fitness and maybe one or two others to come in we don't look in bad shape.
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| Crap weather today which i thought reflected in the play, however, we did bomb 3 or 4 chances within the opposition 5mtr line which we need to convert to try's to get on.
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| Difficult conditions to play rugby in (it was bad enough standing watching) and we didn't quite have our tactics right in the 1st half. Forcing our play a bit too much instead of being a little more patient but overall it was decent performance given the conditions. The speed of the ruck is something that we'll have to get use to it seems. Very slow at times and a lot of messing about allowed which would be penalised in SL.
Pleasing crowd of 4891, with only 30 or so brave dedicated souls from Haven. Hopefully we can push for a 5k average if we can perform well at home.
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| Comfortable win in poor conditions. Seemed to be that some of our fans think we should be scoring off every play at this level. It was never a game for expansive rugby, yet i heard numerous moaning about us no getting it out quick enough, and we need to spread it out, even when we were in our own 20.
If anything i thought we were too expansive in first half causing a lot of errors.
Sidlow's offloading killed them. Pitts had a great game, and surely Gaskell will be the best player in the league if he stays fit.
Haven weren't bad at all and could have scored some more points. Never looked like they were going to win though, or get near our line without getting a penalty or getting a Bulls error.
Fev next week will be a tough one. Hopefully drier conditions will suit us. Interesting to see how their pitch looks.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Pleasing crowd of 4891, with only 30 or so brave dedicated souls from Haven. Hopefully we can push for a 5k average if we can perform well at home.'"
If we do push for 5K can I recommend that they get some change. At 2:45 the only cash turnstile at the rear of the stadium was nearly closed by the young girl manning it as she was about to leave to get some change. Nobody seemed to think that if the price was £22 then a lot of people would present £25 or £30 and expect change. So the man in front of me had the privilege of waiting in the queue for 15 mins only to be told he could not enter as he did not have the correct change.
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| £22 to stand on an open terrace in a freezing downpour to watch the mighty Whitehaven is ambitious.
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| Quote ="feebleweasel"£22 to stand on an open terrace in a freezing downpour to watch the mighty Whitehaven is ambitious.'"
Right. Except that most BULLS fans come to watch THE BULLS. Hard to grasp, I know.
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| Well I enjoyed yesterday but I do have a problem.
Our new seats give us a great view but behind us there are SIX moaners - yes SIX - and feed off one another too...
Yesterday they moaned for 70 of the 80 - here is a list of what is wrong;
Chev is bald
Chev is a blob
Chev cant tackle
Chev is useless
Clock doesn't work
New programme is stupid
Matty Blye is the invisible man
Harry Siejka is useless
Harry Siejka cant kick for toffee
Dale Ferguson is the invisible man
The pie van has gone
The new pie van is crap
Ryan Shaw can't catch
Ryan Shaw isn't a full back
Free hot drink is stupid
Its going to be a long season if every home game is like this!
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| Quote ="Errol Stock"Chev is a blob'"
A what?
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"A what?'"
Well thats what they called him - a blob
"Supporters" who do nothing but moan - weird!
Oh and our ball handling skills were crap too - never mind how cold it was..
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| Personally I found the free hot drink very very welcome!
There were some encouraging stuff yesterday, and some that leave a little nagging worry. But hopefully the latter will be sorted out with time.
Encouraging as always were Gaskell, O'Brien, Pitts and Sidlow. I thought Mullaney went well too, especially considering the eye injury. The fact he came back on later to play 7 for a bit tells me that he'll be ok and he'll be playing there if Siejka does cop a ban.
I'm less impressed with Tahraoui as some others are though, it seems to me that his defence is a little shaky if you don't run directly at him. But hopefully that's just the step up to full time needing some time to adjust, as he put in a fair amount of minutes yesterday. Siejka too continues to worry me as he made a lot of daft errors yesterday, and with the lack of real halfback competition, there's no-one banging on the door to replace him. But again, hopefully that will improve with time and a few Lowes b*llockings.
I notice in the T&A article this morning, it mentioned the Bulls are going to contest the two disciplinaries. Must say I'm quite surprised by that.
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| Quote ="Errol Stock":1hvgyckbWell I enjoyed yesterday but I do have a problem.
Our new seats give us a great view but behind us there are SIX moaners - yes SIX - and feed off one another too...
Yesterday they moaned for 70 of the 80 - here is a list of what is wrong;
Chev is bald
Chev is a blob
Chev cant tackle
Chev is useless
Clock doesn't work
New programme is stupid
Matty Blye is the invisible man
Harry Siejka is useless
Harry Siejka cant kick for toffee
Dale Ferguson is the invisible man
The pie van has gone
The new pie van is crap
Ryan Shaw can't catch
Ryan Shaw isn't a full back
Free hot drink is stupid
Its going to be a long season if every home game is like this!'" but when you get 'moaners' and you know you're stuck with it - oh dear!
Like others, I think the weather had much to do with the game - it's pretty difficult to play open expansive rugby in, near freezing, constant rain and sleet and on an obviously 'slick' surface like we had yesterday, so congratulations to both sides for putting on a good show. Whilst clearly outclassed, and after the first ten minutes never really looking like scoring, Whitehaven never gave up, so credit goes to them too.
My MOTM was Jay Pitts, I thought he was both non-stop and outstanding, along with Adam Sidlow in the pack and obviously Lee Gaskell for finishing moves off.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Ha ha, the joys of a regular seat.
Got to be right and say my 'neighbours' are a joy [same ones as last year but when you get 'moaners' and you know you're stuck with it - oh dear!
Like others, I think the weather had much to do with the game - it's pretty difficult to play open expansive rugby in, near freezing, constant rain and sleet and on an obviously 'slick' surface like we had yesterday, so congratulations to both sides for putting on a good show. Whilst clearly outclassed, and after the first ten minutes never really looking like scoring, Whitehaven never gave up, so credit goes to them too.
My MOTM was Jay Pitts, I thought he was both non-stop and outstanding, along with Adam Sidlow in the pack and obviously Lee Gaskell for finishing moves off.'"
Yep - go with all that - never ceases to amaze me - behind scenes problems at Whitehaven but those lads on the pitch were a credit, never gave up for a minute and gave a lesson in positional kicking too!
Jay Pitts my MOTM too - the lad is a cracking player.
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| Quote ="Errol Stock"Well I enjoyed yesterday but I do have a problem.
Our new seats give us a great view but behind us there are SIX moaners - yes SIX - and feed off one another too...
Yesterday they moaned for 70 of the 80 - here is a list of what is wrong;
Chev is bald
Chev is a blob
Chev cant tackle
Chev is useless
Clock doesn't work
New programme is stupid
Matty Blye is the invisible man
Harry Siejka is useless
Harry Siejka cant kick for toffee
Dale Ferguson is the invisible man
The pie van has gone
The new pie van is crap
Ryan Shaw can't catch
Ryan Shaw isn't a full back
Free hot drink is stupid
Its going to be a long season if every home game is like this!'"
I would have put up a robust argument against the final point. The other points less so.
Thought the story of the game was dictated by the conditions. Didn't think Whitehaven looked anything like a side in terminal decline. All that mattered was the win but the attendance was very heartening. We should be good to go when the grounds firm up. Big test next week..........tin hats on ........players and fans.
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| "Harry gets a rush of blood at times, as you saw against Leigh, and one of the things we spoke about during the week was being a bit more composed".
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| Its good to see players going at it with the weather as it was. I am already a bit nervous that if we do not make it into SL at the first opportunity. I have a feeling Adam O'Brian and lee Gaskill will be hot property for pickings come the end of the season. They really are showing their quality.
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| Quote ="miketaurus"Its good to see players going at it with the weather as it was. I am already a bit nervous that if we do not make it into SL at the first opportunity. I have a feeling Adam O'Brian and lee Gaskill will be hot property for pickings come the end of the season. They really are showing their quality.'"
I would be amazed if you weren't 100% accurate there. The guys clearly want to be at Bradford as evidenced by them staying, but I can't think that will continue for too long if we don't start getting back into Super League and climbing the table. They're too good to be playing at lower end teams IMO, as much as I'm happy they have chosen to stay with us for now.
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| Quote ="miketaurus"Its good to see players going at it with the weather as it was. I am already a bit nervous that if we do not make it into SL at the first opportunity. I have a feeling Adam O'Brian and lee Gaskill will be hot property for pickings come the end of the season. They really are showing their quality.'"
The longer we stay in the championship, the worse our squad will get and the harder it will be to get back up. Honestly I think if we don't get promoted in the next two seasons, we're down here for good until the league structure is changed (again).
The only thing we may have in our favour is our academy setup, and the current rules surrounding home grown players and cap exemptions they get. We should (in theory) be able to offer players like Adam O Brien, Tom Olbison and Adam Brook decent salaries that our rivals cannot afford to match, because we are given cap exemptions on talent we produce ourselves. Whether that actually makes a difference in reality, only time will tell.
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| I'd forgotten about that exemption, but yeah, it's a great incentive to produce your own and one where we may have an advantage, since our academy are still playing SL opposition - and beating them last weekend!
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| A great turnout despite the terrible conditions. Can't have been easy playing in those conditions. The atmosphere was almost as if everyone (including players) just wanted to get it over and go home.
Think its been said, but Whitehaven players were a credit to their club and the league. Despite everything they are going through and against a full time team they kept going and actually put a bit of pressure on us in first half.
It looked to me like we have the makings of a good side but one or two do worry me. Samir looks like he cannot bend his back and is a bit flat footed in defence. The better teams might start playing towards that. However in attack he seems to be what i'd refer to as a plodder (does the hard yards and is consistent).
Harry looks like a man who has lost all his confidence. At Leigh there was times where he started running at the defence and looked quite spritely. After the niggle started he's lost that and looked like he didn't know what to do at times. Thank god we have Gaskell in there as we'd have probably gone nowhere. Not great when your home fans sarcastically cheer you kicking a goal... no wonder he gave up the kicking duties mid game!!!
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| I thought Samir seemed to get through a lot of defence yesterday
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"I thought Samir seemed to get through a lot of defence yesterday'"
He was also quite guilty of flailing about a bit when someone tried to go around him. A few times I thought he was lucky to have someone backing him up or he'd have lost the man. I think he needs a little work on his tackling personally, but as I said previously, it could have just been fatigue given he played quite a bit.
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| Being positive the Academy is doing well and hopes are there. I hope we really fight and get our deserves from where we are at. The problem I see is that the SL is getting like the Premiership, with only Wigan, St Helens, Warrington and Leeds actually being SL. Bearing in mind Leeds need rebuilding. O'Brian and Gaskill would be perfect right now for them. I have hope and faith in the club.
To add a resounding YES Whitehaven did themselves great credit on Sunday.
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