It tells you even more that we offered him a contract extension when the Bradford interest became apparent.

Cracking appointment. Well out of left field.

More than happy with Beattie.

I'm obviously in the minority when I notice the broken promises then. Fair enough, must be nice to be able to feel good about it all and focus on the positives.

Hope you all enjoy the season. As I said elsewhere, god knows if anyone deserves to enjoy themselves for a season after the crap they've been through, it's Bradford fans. The way I feel about the club lately, I'm not sure I qualify any more.

I'll go crawl back under my rock.

Sometimes in your working life you can be more than happy in your job but another opportunity arises which you see as a challenge ( and lets face it Bradford is a challenge) and you really want to have a go at it. That's what JK has done. No different to thousands of other people.

What a pathetic individual you are - to a man the Wakey fans have been supportive yet the same Bulls arrogance immediately rears it's ugly head.

I'm almost regretting supporting his decision already

You got him there I don't know what egg banjo's beef is but then I don't really care.

Almost as bad as generalising all Bulls fans as being arrogant. Another totally incorrect statement.

It tells you that MC values stability, obviously kear didn't feel the same way

I have no beef, I have wished him and NewCo well already on this tread. My point is that no individual is bigger than the club, JK put himself before the club so it's the right time for him to go.

Great appointment, John will get you back up the divisions.
He was brill for us

I'm sure you read as well as post on the Wakey board. You would therefore know that is not true.

He may have broken the 'promise' but he does have to consider the fianancial implications. My guess, for what it's worth, is that kear, or any coach of his experience and calibre, wasn't on the horizon when the promise was made, and that when it became known he was interested he may have, to some extent busted the budget, so the 'new' second in command idea was dropped.

Personally, Im very ahppy with it and don't feel in any way short changed, but I can understand others may not think the same.

Think youve copped for a big one pal

I'll be getting tickets for the coral stand (or whatever it's called now) for each game, so may have to curb my drinking a bit on match days. I don't want to be showing up any of the players after the match do I

Surely the Guiness at Odsal aint that strong

No probably not and I hope it's not as expensive as last season. If I'm saving money on a season ticket and money on a taxi to Cue Gardens before the game(he can now drop me off on the way to the ground) so I don't want to be using the money I'm gonna save on overpriced Guinness

There was also talk of a reserve side, which presumably would have been coached by Beattie given the number of academy players that would have been in there plus good for his own development. But no news of that, which disappoints me but I accept that plans change to fit circumstances, maybe we would have heard a lot more good news if more fans had purchased season tickets. so it could be that roles have been adjusted and Beattie has that wider responsibility with the first team not the reserves. Hopefully the reserves are simply delayed a season. The important thing for me is that Beattie is a bridge from the academy to the first team, and to me a sign that the owners are putting all the structures in place to build a solid core of our own talented lads that have played together and can develop together.

Interesting to see what two old dogs have done with two other teams, Big Sam and Roy. No guarantees, but you would expect Kear to sort the defence out and that alone will do wonders for the points tally.

In retrospect last year may have been the time not to buy a season ticket, this year the one to do so. Everything APPEARS to be much more solid off and on the pitch this season, and I am happy for a few broken promises for that to be achieved.

Is the non-mention of John Bastian in any of the press releases about the coaching set-up a good thing? Or a bad thing? Or just a thing?
I assume he remains Head of Youth development?

A broken promise is fine if what you get instead is better than initially promised.
That probably was his initial intention but getting Kear probably changed a few things and that is why I am now looking at the positives.
The negatives aren't necessarily negatives - just differences to what was said.
Is getting Kear and Beatie a negative up to say Diskin and Greenwood which would have fulfilled his so called promise?
I don't think so.
Chalmers changed his mind on what he said at the meeting but to me changed it for the better - so I am happy with that and my mate told me last night he will now get a terrace ST this Friday rather than occasional walk ups.
Everyone sees things differently

Im sure Kear mentioned his excellent work in his interview

He did.

You seem to have a thing about what you call broken promises. I'm not even sure that the statement to which you refer was a promise but even if it was then circumstances change. It seems likely that when AC made the statement that was the intention but as things unraveled then it became clear that this wasn't the best way forward. This doesn't seem to me to be a broken promise. I and I'm sure many others are happy with the eventual outcome.

Just been pointed to this, so thought I'd drop an explanation.

You're right, I do have a thing about it. Because I am sick to the back teeth of being lied to by people in charge of the club, so every little instance, really winds me up. This year, the straw has broke the camel's back, so to speak.

I agree with what's been said as it happens. Plans have clearly changed, as Martin also highlighted the reserve team which I'd forgotten about. If those plans for a new assistant were scrapped in order to get John Kear in, I even agree with changing them. I'd rather have Kear & Beattie than Diskin/Anderson/Sharp, A.N. Other and Beattie on top. Kear as I have said is a great coup and one that I would happily have plans changed for. But what would have been nice is a communication to clarify that. A simple "I know we said we were doing this, but when this opportunity arose, we changed our plans for it" would clear it up and I think everyone would be fine with it. But as usual that communication doesn't happen and instead those of us who are really down on the club at the moment (and it's something I've been vocal about), just see the negative. Arguably that is the issue of those people (including me) for being over-negative, and I accept that. But it still doesn't help to get you back into the positive lands where other people live. And it still serves to just further P.O. some long time and long suffering supporters.

I think personally I'm at a point of no return now. 30+ years of support and I'm just not feeling the love any more. Too many things have put me off and none of those things have been the players or what division they're playing in. So maybe it is my own problem and it's only me it annoys. Here's hoping for the club's sake, that it is only me and they don't lose many more fans.

Hope that clears up my point.

It’s not just you, I feel very similar. Last year really killed my love and it made me realise there is more to Sunday’s than Bradford Bulls. I didn’t have a season ticket for the 1st time since forever and I had no obligation to just turn up because I’d already paid. Consequently I found other things to do and I really didn’t miss it. The appointment of Kear is one that caught my interest a little and once the crap whether has passed I might venture up for a few games if we’re playing some decent rugby.

Well i have just bought my season ticket. On a visa i must say. Ha