Couldn't you use 'grunt' in there somewhere as well?

Sorry must be slow today but you've lost me there...

I thought it was your favourite expression that's all.

Any more news on you and Sibbit? He had a good game for us yesterday, but hes to inconsistent and over the years has had a few injuries, it could go either way, he has his good games but his bad ones as well.

Nothing but half hearted rumour!

Not if he stays in Aus after his surgery he won't.

Orford seeking a release to join Canbera

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That's been the story for the last six weeks, I'm sure there's a deal underway and we'll get to hear after the pledge deadline. Just hope we manage to replace him with someone of the same quality, Dorn is a stand off and so is Pryce, just hope we have some irons in the fire on the scrum half front. I know lots of people think it's the same position essentially, but I'd disagree.

I disagree waiting till after pledge deadline if hes off i want to know now.

This is becoming a pantomime, and pretty typical of Hoods management style in recent years. We all know Orford won't be back, so time to tell us all me thinks.

I won't withdraw my pledge if Matt Orford doesn't return, I may if I've been misled by the board!

Orford wasn't announced as joining Bradford last year until mid-November & not ratified until mid-December. So plenty of time to work yourselves into a lather yet. Someone at the club told me Deacon is coming back for next season to replace Orford.

Just hope we get a decent replacement. Going into the the new season with only Southernwood and Addy is not an option.

Totally agree with the Pantomime thing, there doesn't seem to be a year go by without something going wrong. If he's not coming back announce it and let us know what's happening. We really want good news, quality signings, new sponsors and promises of things are getting better if the pledge is going to work. All we are hearing is rumours, mostly negative and that's not going to help with the pledges. The Club should be proactivly managing the media stories, not letting them get out of hand. The season is over, who's going and who's coming. The September deadline is over, what other excuses are going to be used. I suspect the truth is there are no quality signings now and we are stuck with some of the dross we've put up with for the last two seasons! And to put the icing on the cake our "Star" signing of last season wants out....

Let's not start slitting the wrists yet. I expect the business with Orford isn't going to sort itself out overnight. The club could easily just let him go but the directors have a duty get the best deal they can. Also recruiting a quality halfback is unlikely to be that easy as they don't grow on trees.

We need some decent compo for letting him go, who knows it may help provide money so we can buy someone which would drastically increase our options.

problem with that NRL clubs very rarely pay any form off compo/transfer fees. Suspect best we could hope for is a player in exchange but if its a halfback I'd guess it would be a relative unknown and therefore unlikely to qualify for a visa.

Tend to agree with the view that theres no point releasing any news until situation is resolved. no point announcing he's going, if indeed he is, until we have replacement lined up and visa approved. Also wont help our negotiating position with other clubs. Bit different negotiating for a player to come as backup to orfod as opposed to bringing one in as straight replacement. Other club would know they had us over a barrel and price would go up accordingly.

If it's Canberra ask for Marc Herbert

I doubt any NRL club are going to allow a good halfback to leave if they're wanting Orford in the first place.

We got compo for Sam (despite what Mick thinks!).

We probably wouldn't get much but I can see why the club are keeping quiet in order to strengthen their hand in negotiation.

sam was a bit of a special case though. he was at the beginning of his career and in much more demand than orford and was prepared to see out at least another year of his bulls contract. hence we could demand a higher fee. Dont think we can demand anything like as much for Ox if he wants out anyway.

Maybe, maybe not. It depends how desperate someone is to sign him. I Imagine if the boot was on the other foot we'd pay to sign a decent halfback.

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So much for Fielden to Hull!

Crapped himself with the thought of the derby matches after Willie Mason signed for them

Probably what the KR fans are thinking, even though they still gotta play each other twice.