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| Quote ="dddooommm"What bigger incentive do the players need now?!
Win next week and we confirm a place in the final game and ensure that Leigh stay in the Championship.'"
Assuming Fax don't turn over Wakefield too!
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| Quote ="dddooommm"What bigger incentive do the players need now?!
Win next week and we confirm a place in the final game and ensure that Leigh stay in the Championship.'"
Exactly if this doesn't get them fired up and wanting to win noting will, if we beat Leigh and if fax get any result against wakey and then if we beat fax we will get 4th, this is what it comes down to any other result shows we don't have any fire anymore and we need to rebuild our team and management.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Assuming Fax don't turn over Wakefield too!'"
As long as we beat Leigh, that's an even better result as it'd put us in the driving seat for 4th and home advantage for the million pound game.
That's assuming El Generalisimo doesn't cock it up with his poor tactics and poorer team selections
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Assuming Fax don't turn over Wakefield too!'"
Correct more twists and turns left.
But we have the points on the board which puts us in the driving seat.
The points difference doesn't do us any favours. However, both our matches are against championship opposition around us. Leigh and fax have to play superleague sides as well as us.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Correct more twists and turns left.
But we have the points on the board which puts us in the driving seat.
The points difference doesn't do us any favours. However, both our matches are against championship opposition around us. Leigh and fax have to play superleague sides as well as us.'"
It could be fax in the million pound match instead of us or leigh. That would be a turn up for the books.
Leigh are certainly in the worst position now given their run in.
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| The triangle that we formed with Wakey & Salford is interesting. As long as Widnes & HKR win their remaining games, and we, like Wakey & Salford can beat Leigh, then 3rd, 4th and 5th places should be filled by the 3 of us on equal points, the places being determined by points difference. I think.
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| Today's result should paper over our cracks for a few days
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| Another upset on the cards perhaps? Again involving Salford, this time against the part-timers of Sheffield
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| 58 points in just the first 40 minutes lol. That is ridiculous, what are they playing - touch and pass?!
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| Sheffield are clearly fighting to avoid being the bottom team and it looks like Salford have gone back to their "we just need to show up to win" attitude that they showed off at Odsal
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| From Paddy Power: to be promoted
Wakefield 4/7
Bradford 6/4
Leigh 17/2
Fax 66/1
Sheff 125/1
As truly unbelievable as it sounds we're still in this.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"From Paddy Power: to be promoted
Wakefield 4/7
Bradford 6/4
Leigh 17/2
Fax 66/1
Sheff 125/1
As truly unbelievable as it sounds we're still in this.'"
The million pound spot is ours to lose now
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| I get the impression that the championship clubs are thinking that promotion is the poisoned chalice at moment> Mostly I suspect as a lack of trust with the present middle 8 situation.
Unless a club has a vast pot of cash the "Boom and Bust" is inevitable to a championship club if promoted whilst the middle 8 is in the mix. I suspect that the RFL will give it another season before scrapping it? I seriously think that this is a problem, and because many supporters have twigged this debacle, the game will begin to suffer from lack of support from the rank and file.
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| Quote ="Rarebreed"I get the impression that the championship clubs are thinking that promotion is the poisoned chalice at moment> Mostly I suspect as a lack of trust with the present middle 8 situation.
Unless a club has a vast pot of cash the "Boom and Bust" is inevitable to a championship club if promoted whilst the middle 8 is in the mix. I suspect that the RFL will give it another season before scrapping it? I seriously think that this is a problem, and because many supporters have twigged this debacle, the game will begin to suffer from lack of support from the rank and file.'"
Can see where this comment is aimed from. The 'million pound' game, that million pound will have to be spent by the club on salary in the main for the next season...if they dont they simply wont compete. Its not like football where the parachute payment, attendances and revenue far outweigh the cost of running the club (in most cases).
Rugby has very tight budgets, this million pound would help position a team but for all intents and purposes they will come back into the middle 8s and run the risk altogether and have to go back part time etc. Really has the chance of ruining teams more than anything.
Leigh's attendances if they fail to get promoted will take a hit.
Is there an issue some teams who wouldn't meet franchise rules could be promoted? i.e. Sheffield and Halifax? personally no issue with either club, does it remove the protection that system gave those clubs.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"The million pound spot is ours to lose now'"
Absolutely. Two wins from our final two games and we are guaranteed a shot at promotion.
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| Most teams have done most of their recruiting though, and no Championship can sign up a SL squad on spec. Even if promoted, therefore, where are they going to possibly get all these extra outstanding SL players? Why have they already been rejected by every other club? That is the main problem, you are expected to start recruiting your better players when all your 2016 competitors have finished.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark":28zkq696Most teams have done most of their recruiting though, and no Championship can sign up a SL squad on spec. Even if promoted, therefore, where are they going to possibly get all these extra outstanding SL players? Why have they already been rejected by every other club? That is the main problem, you are expected to start recruiting your better players when all your 2016 competitors have finished.'" drawback..
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| Hull KR signed Kelly, Blair, Campese, Allgood, Boudebza in the off season and I'm pretty sure the season had started when they signed Lunt.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"Hull KR signed Kelly, Blair, Campese, Allgood, Boudebza in the off season and I'm pretty sure the season had started when they signed Lunt.'"
They may have announced the signings then but I expect negotiations began earlier. Players agents usually start touting them around well before the season ends.
No way would they leave it until the off season.
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| Yeah, clubs are pretty savvy these days and I'd guess that, just as we did, lots of players were signed pretty early and then announced, one at a time over a period, to keep season ticket pot boiling in the lead up to the season.
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| I think things look more fluid than ever before. Kelly, Sandow, Campese, Chisholm all contracted half backs who got released from the NRL. Lunt, Puletua, Sio, Tupou moved mid-season. If you suddenly drop on 800k with cap space to boot there's also a significant upside in the fact that few clubs either here or in Oz have that kind of leeway should someone become available.
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| problem is that whilst if promoted we'd have extra money to recruit we wouldn't have quota spots available for overseas signings, unless players already contracted for next year agree to early releases which would probably mean paying them off eating into the available funds.
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| Nobody is saying odd releases or occasional availability never happen though. Just that you're either left the dregs, or need to strike lucky. You're essentially relying on "should someone become available". You've missed all the regular buses, and no doubt something will come along, but it's unlikely to be the one you wanted to catch.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Nobody is saying odd releases or occasional availability never happen though. Just that you're either left the dregs, or need to strike lucky. You're essentially relying on "should someone become available". You've missed all the regular buses, and no doubt something will come along, but it's unlikely to be the one you wanted to catch.'"
Commonly called The Sieka Syndrome
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| Our home game against Halifax has been moved to Saturday 26th September, 3pm kick off, and will be on Sky.
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