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| Quote ="snowie"You've been very good with the posting and they have said everything what you'd expect to hear now what it needs is drilling them with your questions, one I'd ask is it odsal was too expensive to run the club from how can the new owners do any different than run up debts'"
I agree... there has been similar messages before. There are plenty wanting to ask their questions so I'm leaving them to it.
At least one has already promted a change in policy (disabled car parking).
There was a question I missed which was about high ticket prices. Sawyer and perez said it could be looked at but didnt want to upset the RFL now the budgets have been agreed.
If enough want it changed can look at it but would cause issues this year
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| Back on... first question.
What makes you lot different to the last 3 owners?
We will pay back creditors some straight away.
Pensions regulator is happy with coms and will be paid back. Bloody shambles described as. Negligence and poor says Sawyer.
Players have till early November to decide whether to stay or go. Once decided then it will be settled as advised by regulator.
Chalmers has most of money in account to settle???
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| Sawyer reveals that an old lottery account from before OK days that's locked down has £100k sat in it.
It may look like it's been stolen but it's just sheer incompetence.
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| Perez was on flight from Canada within hours of offer.
Great opportunity for Bulls and great opportunity for me!!!
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| Kear coaching structure
Carvell left which was mutual. Felt couldn't do GMB union job and coaching so shook hands and parted on great terms.
Kear
Dunning
Beattie
Head of S&C
That's its folks... all wrapped up for the night.
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| Great updates bullinenemyland. Thanks, mate.
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| Thanks again things do sound promising let's hope we get somewhere this time
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| Agreed, excellent updates. Very much appreciated to keep everyone so up to date.
As far as my opinions on it, if I'm honest something doesn't sit right. This idea of Nigel Wood taking over ownership when 3 years ago that was exactly what was rumoured to happen once Chalmers had done a shift, I find it hard to believe this wasn't the plan in the first place. And if it was, surely that means Wood has been there or thereabouts while Chalmers and co have racked up all this debt?
I have no reason to doubt the credibility of Sawyer or Perez, but something just doesn't sit right about the whole sale. Maybe that's because something isn't right or maybe it's because we're so used to being burned that I can't possibly believe it's not dodgy. Time will tell I suppose. But hey, we're not allowed to be negative (which is a strange statement considering what people have been put through).
Here's hoping it's the start of an upward trend. I'm struggling to believe it is though.
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| Sorry but can't say I'm going to carry on.
Anything that Nigel Wood is involved with has only one route that I can see.
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| Excellent report Thanks a million....oh sorry its in a lottery account
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| Quote ="Stul"Great updates bullinenemyland. Thanks, mate.'"
Cheers. When I get home I'll try and look at other comments to see if I remember missing anything important.
I noticed Roger in attendance and it would be good to hear how he is feeling after what hes heard tonight.
As I said before, the message is fairly similar to past "fresh starts" but this was the lowest key one I've attended. Not glitz or free chocolate bars to bribe you with.... I took it as a lot of plain Yorkshire speaking with a tinge of hype in the form of a canadian accent.
This board sounds like it will change quite quickly so I don't think anyone can take much from tonight. It will all depend on who comes in for the long term.
Are players and fans going to buy into that when they know those they are negotiating with are gone in six months time?
I'll go as I'm a half glass full optimist with a gluten for punishment but some may decide it's not for them.
Feels there is quite a bit of the story still to tell
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| Well I’ll be buggered if I know what’s going on. Time to forget about RL for a few months and see whether at seasons kick off there is something worth getting behind.
Thanks for all the updates.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Agreed, excellent updates. Very much appreciated to keep everyone so up to date.
As far as my opinions on it, if I'm honest something doesn't sit right. This idea of Nigel Wood taking over ownership when 3 years ago that was exactly what was rumoured to happen once Chalmers had done a shift, I find it hard to believe this wasn't the plan in the first place. And if it was, surely that means Wood has been there or thereabouts while Chalmers and co have racked up all this debt?
I have no reason to doubt the credibility of Sawyer or Perez, but something just doesn't sit right about the whole sale. Maybe that's because something isn't right or maybe it's because we're so used to being burned that I can't possibly believe it's not dodgy. Time will tell I suppose. But hey, we're not allowed to be negative (which is a strange statement considering what people have been put through).
Here's hoping it's the start of an upward trend. I'm struggling to believe it is though.'"
I know how you feel... it's like when a dog has been beaten by its previous owners and it wants to be shown affection but is frightened of getting another kicking!!!
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"Sawyer reveals that an old lottery account from before OK days that's locked down has £100k sat in it.
It may look like it's been stolen but it's just sheer incompetence.'"
Sshh don't tell the receivers...
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| Is it locked or have they just not guessed the right numbers to open it?
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| Sounds like they’ve tried hard not to blame individuals, just the “system”
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| Nigel Wood is poison. No other way of looking at this.
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| Thanks for the updates
I'm not really sure what I feel about the content. Overall, I guess I'm concerned that once again it feels like there is a lot more to tell - but that might just be cynicism from having been around this a few times before.
My biggest concern is who is actually going to be running the club in a few months, once Perez has done his stint as 'interim'? It obviously cannot be Sawyer - his club will likely be scrapping with us next season against relegation. And it obviously isn't going to be Nigel Wood, he works on the other side of the world.
I see that Duffy is still clinging to the club like a limpet
I was really hoping for a fresh start - but this doesn't feel like it...
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"I see that Duffy is still clinging to the club like a limpet'"
Ugh. Yes, didn't twig that bit. Does he know where the tealady's bodies are buried or something?
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Thanks for the updates
I'm not really sure what I feel about the content. Overall, I guess I'm concerned that once again it feels like there is a lot more to tell - but that might just be cynicism from having been around this a few times before.
My biggest concern is who is actually going to be running the club in a few months, once Perez has done his stint as 'interim'? It obviously cannot be Sawyer - his club will likely be scrapping with us next season against relegation. And it obviously isn't going to be Nigel Wood, he works on the other side of the world.
I see that Duffy is still clinging to the club like a limpet
I was really hoping for a fresh start - but this doesn't feel like it...'"
Agreed with all of that. This time next year who will be taking the club forward and actually running things? Yes it's great we've avoided admin, will pay our creditors, but who's in charge in the long term planning of this club.
I hope the question gets asked ab why Chris Brereton decided to leave the consortium. I think we would have felt a little easier with him at the helm as we would have at least known who's running things.
Also I do think it's important we have some sort of fan representation on the board, even if they don't make any decisions controbutions. I know it can be a mine field as we could get a muppet like Gledhill sitting there, but with i
Us not really knowing who's running things, I think it's important we get some sort of representation. I personally think Bullbuilder are the only trust worthy folk we could put there, but I know they've made clear they don't want to be part of it previously.
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"Sawyer reveals that an old lottery account from before OK days that's locked down has £100k sat in it.
It may look like it's been stolen but it's just sheer incompetence.'"
Is that the 'scandal' eggy's been wittering on about for a while? I'd imagine the Gaming Board (or whatever they're called these days) would be interested in that, as well as the receiver from back then as has already been pointed out.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"I personally think Bullbuilder are the only trust worthy folk we could put there, but I know they've made clear they don't want to be part of it previously.'"
Unless it's been changed since I was there, I believe the constitution of the trust would need to be changed in order to facilitate that. When the constitution was originally written, it was very specifically to help the youth system and not to look for a place on the board.
That may have changed in the last few years, but it was certainly the case in the beginning.
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| None of them seem any different to any that have gone before. Heard everything they've said 3 times over the last ten years from someone else's mush.
I'd love to call it a day and not really care but I don't think I can.
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"Cheers. When I get home I'll try and look at other comments to see if I remember missing anything important.
I noticed Roger in attendance and it would be good to hear how he is feeling after what hes heard tonight.
As I said before, the message is fairly similar to past "fresh starts" but this was the lowest key one I've attended. Not glitz or free chocolate bars to bribe you with.... I took it as a lot of plain Yorkshire speaking with a tinge of hype in the form of a canadian accent.
This board sounds like it will change quite quickly so I don't think anyone can take much from tonight. It will all depend on who comes in for the long term.
Are players and fans going to buy into that when they know those they are negotiating with are gone in six months time?
I'll go as I'm a half glass full optimist with a gluten for punishment but some may decide it's not for them.
Feels there is quite a bit of the story still to tell'"
Hello mate, yes I was there listening to what was said.
I don’t think you could not listen intently and be quite impressed with what and how Mark Sawyer spoke about the future of the club. I thought he came across very well. Whether the chairman of another club is the person to do this, I really don’t know. It’s certainly a weird one. But I also noticed, probably a little more than some, John Kear was resigned to the fact the team will be nowhere near what it’s been this season. As it stands right now if we stay up next year I guess that will be the only aim, but how sad once again the team will be decimated
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| Storton to Leeds as part of the 32k that’s owed to us I’m told.
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