That Sir, is comedy genius!

I was right, wonder if we will actually see him at Odsal

Probably, playing for London! they've got Loooaaaddsssaaaa Money!

A person who spoke to him at the Hotel in Hull where PNG stayed claimed he told him he's going to the Giants

Only to a simpleton

You say "anyone" can make a trite truism, the immediately write that "the Devil is in the detail"!

You called yourself an wipe.

That is just golden!!

As another poster mentioned, the debate on how to reduce costs has been going on for several years on this forum, usually wrestling with the detail. that has included trend analyses of the statutory accounts, analysis of the available socio-economic data, discussion of the contents of th legally binding agreements relating to Odsal etc etc etc.

So I can quite happily ask that you do the same, that you go beyond the superficial. for example, how do you think the club can reduce stadium costs?

Well, given that my post was about the folly of paying for marquee signings in the hope that they bring success and an increase in revenue, yours is quite a change of subject.

Are you now blaming the running costs of your iconic stadium for your woes?

You can analyse the accounts all you like, but when you have two sets, one for the RFL and one that is real (that will be the set where departments of the club were given unrealistic and unsustainable budgets).

The answer to the problem is exactly as your new BOD seem to be suggesting - costs must be cut, including playing and backroom staff. Expect some big earners to leave soon.

It's what Wakefield are currently doing.

The complicating factor may be that there will be few clubs with either the money or the cap space to take players of your hands.

As if we don't have enough problems there is the additional jeopardy of keeping out of the bottom two next season if you want to avoid a really big cut in income the year after!

That's why the BoD will need to think carefully about the players who add value rather than their base cost

There lies the conundrum, but the simple reality is you cannot continue to spend money you don't have.

Bulls will have to cut their cloth according to their means. Paying more in the hope of a cup run, a league run or a sugar daddy coming along to balance the books later down the line, is no longer an option.

this could be Bradford's big problem, trying to fund a team to stay in superleague in 2015 by avoiding relegation in 2014. It will mean paying salaries equivalent to those of Wakefield, Castleford, Widnes etc. etc.. will Bradford have the income to pay those salaries to chase the dream of superleague status, lets hope so if they go that route as they seem to think that Championship rugby will be the end of them.

You'd think at some point sammut would want to back himself and play for a bigger club. But I always think of Danny orr looking way too good for cas and getting found out at Wigan. At least he gave it a go though.

Latest rumour I've heard is hull offering a fee for gale. If true I'd snap their hands off. Don't rate him and would prefer a sammut/Gaskell pairing.

I've said elsewhere that I felt we could probably cope with losing a player from BK, Sammut, Gaskell or Gale. Don't get me wrong an injury or two and we'll be in bother but it's gamble we will have to take. We have a few players like Addy, BK and apparently Henry who have played at 6 or 7.

I just hope we can retain some strength in the pack or it really could be a long old season.

If we had to offload one of Sammut, Kearney, Gaskell or Gale I'd have to agree that Luke Gale would be my choice to walk.

I think this sums it up on how other clubs see the situation. Give the new consortium the opportunity to live within its means and then be satisfied with whatever happens.

side but there are still plenty of folk, even some on here, who still think "we are a 'big' club" and should be "top of the league" and won't "pay good money to watch rubbish", which translates as, not beat all those clubs they feel we "should" beat.

Then again, patience never was the biggest part of being a fan..

I dont think Odsal as iconic, I see it as a millstone around the bulls neck, for two reasons - its not a great spectator experience and secondly yes the accounts show it is relatively expensive, and somewhere in the 10 or so years of accounts I analysed is a statement from Chris Caisley to that effect. Taking a ten years trend does compensate for any massaging of the figures, but I also analysed the cash flow, and whereas the value of an asset can have a wide range, if the bank statement says £12.01 then thats what it is. And the cash flow made grim reading.

so where were you 18 months ago:

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Trophy players? yes, we've signed Sonny Boy Williamson, etc etc etc. Remember we played much of last season with three or two props plus makeshift back rowers. ever since the whinging Aussie theres been a reluctance to sign a trophy player, depth of squad has been more important. Hence a mixture of successes and failures eg Herbert in the "value" players we have mostly signed.

Anyway, back to Odsal. I was using it as an example that its not just as easy as handing in notice and nipping down the road to the custom built 20000 seater stadium. And the attempts to redevelop Odsal stretch back time immemorial.

The new board had iirc already said they were going to find savings from overheads and team before you put your nano-pennysworth in. So why simply echo what they have already said? Does that move the debate forward? Sound bites from the nursery school primer in financial management just arent enough.

I think the "iconic" bit comes from the RL bumph when they bought the stadium.

I heard today from a friend that two Bulls players who were due to attend a Junior presentation at the Wyke club yesterday failed to turn up. Rumour had it that they simply refused to carry out their 'community obligations' with the current situation being as it is.

I'm sure someone can confirm or deny this rumour?

Such actions still show how in the main RL players are still Mercenaries. Some things never change.

Gale going nowhere according to both the club and Hull.
Honestly, I'm actually a little disappointed he's staying. Not because I don't like the guy, but looking at the club as a whole and the position we are in, selling a player of his stature would surely have eaten up a significant wedge of the shortfall. Now we're back to square one.

Is that the name of the tribute act?

Sonny Bill Williams son. Very good pedigree, great potential, one for the future, he's only four years old.

Player of his stature how much do you honestly value him at.