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| Quote ="Paul124897"I have two criticisms.
Seriously.. why don't we make meters from penalties? He kicks the ball 10 meters when he could easily make 30 or 40.
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Did you see what happened to kicks in the first couple of exchanges? The wind was swirling around something fierce. Deacon adjusted his kicking keeping the kicks low & therefore couldn't go for length. Catalan didn't adjust and still kept kicking high, with the ball sometimes barely moving forward or at other times (one of their kickoffs) it just kept sailing out.
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| Quote ="Sonic Star"Is there some were I can watch highlights of this game online?
Good win, congrats to Bradford.
Would be nice if they can make the finals.'"
if you go to the super league site you can become a member and see the SLTV bit. that has the highlights of all games every monday.
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| thanks guys
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| Quote ="af"www.superleague.co.uk/sltvlounge.php?'"
"Come on, we're better than this, remember last week?' Was that anyone on here.
First try came from forcing a handover deep in their half, right?
Platt did well for the second.
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| Quote ="af""Come on, we're better than this, remember last week?'
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there's a couple of funny comments on there, i don't think the tape is edited much for sound.
it would be funny if a group of people on here stood under that camera and shouted something amusing out. it would have to be just before a try though to definitely get on.
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| Quote ="spanishbob"A little bit harsh that.
1. The wind was pretty strong and to try kick it further would have been tempting the ball coming back in field.
2. I know Burgess should have passed the ball, but a quick play of the ball got it out to the wing and a try was scored (sheriffe I believe, but could be wrong)
All in all I dont think it was too bad a performance and I can see why the Aussies are interested in Burgess, he made the difference when he came on in the first half.
BTW mine was a neutral view.'"
Criticism is key.
1) On the kick by Deacon, he missed that one. If Burgess had released the ball rather than going alone then we were guaranteed under the sticks and a further two points.
2) Maybe I just don't feel wind then, as I was sweating my cobs off at the game and didn't remember much of a breeze, if anything.
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| Another good performace, not too much to add really to what has already been said.
So, do people think we have starting playing so much better?
I don't think we've been far away from this type of form all year.
The bounce of the ball, rub of the green, etc has started to go in our favour finally, Menzies try was a perfect example of this.
Last point; what's the view of the Macca knockers now? I appreciate it's only 3 games, but people must be starting to realise we aren't (and haven't been) THAT bad
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"Another good performace, not too much to add really to what has already been said.
So, do people think we have starting playing so much better?
I don't think we've been far away from this type of form all year.
The bounce of the ball, rub of the green, etc has started to go in our favour finally, Menzies try was a perfect example of this.
Last point; what's the view of the Macca knockers now? I appreciate it's only 3 games, but people must be starting to realise we aren't (and haven't been) THAT bad'"
We aren't but we HAVE been shockingly bad. Why is that?
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"Another good performace, not too much to add really to what has already been said.
So, do people think we have starting playing so much better?
I don't think we've been far away from this type of form all year.
The bounce of the ball, rub of the green, etc has started to go in our favour finally, Menzies try was a perfect example of this.
Last point; what's the view of the Macca knockers now? I appreciate it's only 3 games, but people must be starting to realise we aren't (and haven't been) THAT bad'" So let's forget about the previous 18 months of ineptitude should we because we've won 3 games on the trot what a knee jerk reaction.
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| Quote ="debaser"We aren't but we HAVE been shockingly bad. Why is that?'"
Apart from the Wigan & Warrington games, I don't think we have been shockingly bad.
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| Quote ="redeverready"So let's forget about the previous 18 months of ineptitude.'"
18 months of ineptitude!!
I think that's over the top.
My question is: Do you still think he isn't the right guy to take us forward?
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| 2 seasons of ineptitude for me, it started in the 2007 play offs vs Wigan.
Macca is not the man to take us forwards for me, and if you want any evidence why, well just look at us languishing in 11th right now, backwards we have gone, not forwards in 3 3/4 seasons.
Tim for change in my books.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"18 months of ineptitude!!
I think that's over the top.
My question is: Do you still think he isn't the right guy to take us forward?'"
i think wait until the end of next year. i think however nice this run is, it's too little and probably too late.
if next season pans out like this one then we'll need to look at getting somebody else but atm we'll have to make do.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"18 months of ineptitude!!
I think that's over the top.
My question is: Do you still think he isn't the right guy to take us forward?'"
RER has it spot on IMO.
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| Quote ="phillgee"i think wait until the end of next year. i think however nice this run is, it's too little and probably too late.
if next season pans out like this one then we'll need to look at getting somebody else but atm we'll have to make do.'"
I'd go with that too.
Some of the reasons behind the downturn have been well publicised (and for now justify, for me, our position)
However, I accept we can't hide behind this forever.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"18 months of ineptitude!!
I think that's over the top.
My question is: Do you still think he isn't the right guy to take us forward?'" Yes I do still think he isn't the guy to take us to the next level we have simply had too many false dawns.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"I'd go with that too.
Some of the reasons behind the downturn have been well publicised (and for now justify, for me, our position)
However, I accept we can't hide behind this forever.'" Thts your opinion but it's one that i can't agree with .
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| Typical. I go away for the weekend and miss it. I was out of mobile coverage and emerged back into civlisation to a text message that told me to stay away in future as I'm obviously a jinx.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"18 months of ineptitude!!
I think that's over the top.
My question is: Do you still think he isn't the right guy to take us forward?'"
18 months of decline then?
Winning three games on the trot when we're under no pressure is welcome relief but IMO it doesn't mean we've turned it around.
Is McNamara the right man to take us forward? After this season I'm not convinced.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"18 months of decline then? '"
Yep, hard to disagree.
Understandable though?
Would we have seen that decline with anyone in charge?
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Winning three games on the trot when we're under no pressure is welcome relief but IMO it doesn't mean we've turned it around.
Is McNamara the right man to take us forward? After this season I'm not convinced.'"
I suppose we will see next season.
I'm hopeful of a good season next year
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"Yep, hard to disagree.
Understandable though?
Would we have seen that decline with anyone in charge?
I suppose we will see next season.
I'm hopeful of a good season next year'" Does that matter. The facts show clearly the current leadership have taken us backwards.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"Understandable though?
Would we have seen that decline with anyone in charge?'"
There was always likely to be a decline after we allowed so many senior players to leave after 2005. Whether that would have been any less steep under another coach is open to debate, but the fact remains that we have suffered a steep decline. In the end though you can only really go on what has actually happened rather than what may have happened under someone else.
Quote ="Wigan Bull"I suppose we will see next season. I'm hopeful of a good season next year'"
We will see. I'm not yet convinced we'll do much better next year than this I'm afraid. A lot depends on our recruitment.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Does that matter.'"
I think so, yes.
If the decline was inevitable (which I think it was), then you can't really lay the blame at McNamara and Hoods door. Can you?
Would have fallen further with different leadership?
Genuine questions....I’m not trying to argue for the sake of it here, I think there are points worth debating.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"I think so, yes.
If the decline was inevitable (which I think it was), then you can't really lay the blame at McNamara and Hoods door. Can you?
Would have fallen further with different leadership?
Genuine questions....I’m not trying to argue for the sake of it here, I think there are points worth debating.'"
Many of McNamara's choices in terms of recruitment have left a lot to be desired, even if you factor in a supposed lack of cash available.
Add to that the decline in consistency and the failure to address weaknesses that have been apparent for months on end and it doesn't look great.
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