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| Good thread this. As they say.
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| just a quick note for those complaining club werent making use of their database of existing season ticket holders who hadnt pledged. My partner got a letter urging her to pledge today and making clear that being an existing season ticket holder for 2010 didnt mean she had automatically pledged. Was redundant in this case as I've already pledged for both of us online but because of way you fill in details on pledge form the club only know the name of the main pledge and not any extra ones, presumably until they contact you for payment at which time they will get the details for the extra pledges.
Seems fairly sensible of club, leaving it till last week before contacting existing season ticket holder they have no record of receiving a pledge from. This way they've given a reasonable amount of time for existing people to pledge and minimised the size and cost off the mailing.
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| I also received this letter today but am slightly concerned as I pledged and received an acknowlegement
three weeks ago.
There is a comment at the bottom of the letter that the it had to be produced before a cut-off point
and therefore it may have been sent before recent pledges had been registered or my pledge could
have been sent under another name. As neither of these apply to me i'm slightly worried that i've
been lost in the system.
I'll ring the office tomorrow to make sure.
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| Just been on the bulls website to see how it was going.
It shows 6 days to go and the current pledge total is ???????
Anyone know how many it is at, at the moment?
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| Quote ="debaser"Which, at the end of the day, is academic. Finish 2nd or finish 10th, it still the same prize - sweet FA.'"
Not quite. You still retain a bit of credibility. Finishing 3rd is a reasonable effort out of 14 teams. Finishing 10th and missing out on the playoffs for a second year running, well thats just embarrasing aint it? Hence the reason why this thread exists, slaps desperation as nobody would want to pay £180-£200 to watch the bulls next season.
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| Of course they would. Several thousand of us. Same as several thousand of you guys did to watch you lot not that long ago when it was your turn to be total and utter shìte, ye of short or selective memory.
This is a way of attracting/attracting back several thousand more at short order, and has been near-universally praised as an initiative across the game. They can't all be wrong.
hth.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Of course they would. Several thousand of us. Same as several thousand of you guys did to watch you lot not that long ago .'"
And when would this have been? 'Not that long ago'
Bulls' avg attendance 2010 8,363 (ouch)
Leeds' lowest avg attendance in the last decade 12,157
In Bulls' 2001 championship winning season you got 12,315
The same season Leeds finished 5th and still got more 12,881
Pledge = desperate.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"And when would this have been? 'Not that long ago'
Bulls' avg attendance 2010 8,363 (ouch)
Leeds' lowest avg attendance in the last :38qbfaqmdecade:38qbfaqm 12,157
In Bulls' 2001 championship winning season you got 12,315
The same season Leeds finished :38qbfaqm5th:38qbfaqm and still got more 12,881
:38qbfaqmPledge = desperate.[/
I am not sure it is desperate, I think it is just smart marketing......
I'm not a bulls fan either?
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| I think its a clever idea, don't get me wrong, it is smart marketing to get the fans back. But selling season tickets for £60 is a form of desperation.
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| Does someone else want to point out to our Rhino supporting friend here extactly why he's contradicting himself?
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"Does someone else want to point out to our Rhino supporting friend here extactly why he's contradicting himself?'"
It has inadequate mental faculties to comprehend, I fear. Note that how, true to standard troll form, as soon as you flatly contradict something it says, it ignores what it said and tries another tack. And thinks people are too dumb to see it for what it is. Totally dishonest, of course, but then that is the principal characteristic of a troll, is it not?
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| Not just a troll, but a jealous troll. The worst sort, they try to hide their jealousy beneath a barrage of irrelevant information.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Not quite. You still retain a bit of credibility. Finishing 3rd is a reasonable effort out of 14 teams. Finishing 10th and missing out on the playoffs for a second year running, well thats just embarrasing aint it? Hence the reason why this thread exists, slaps desperation as nobody would want to pay £180-£200 to watch the bulls next season.'"
This season, out of 14 teams, Leeds have won nothing.
This season, out of 14 teams, Bradford have won nothing.
Oh yes I see the difference now. Silly me.
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| Quote ="debaser"This season, out of 14 teams, Leeds have won nothing.
This season, out of 14 teams, Bradford have won nothing.
Oh yes I see the difference now. Silly me.'"
You missed out the fact that Leeds got to Wembley. And were humiliated.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"I think its a clever idea, don't get me wrong, it is smart marketing to get the fans back. But selling season tickets for £60 is a form of desperation.'"
Tell you what, I'll play for a minute if you'll allow.
Faced with only the following three options, which clubs do you think would pick option A, which would pick option B and which would plum for Option C?
A) 10,000 fans paying £60 each for a season ticket.
B) 5,000 fans paying £120 each for a season ticket.
C) 2,500 fans paying £240 each for a season ticket.
What do you think Neil?
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"You missed out the fact that Leeds got to Wembley. And were humiliated.'"
Go on then, I'll join in!
Added to their Wembley humiliation, there was of course, the WCC, where they became the only team to lose the game 2 years in a row.. (oops).
Simple fact is, like has been eluded to already, Leeds won diddly squat, as much as us, Salford, Harlequins et al.
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| Ah, but you need to remember: far more people watched them win sod all than watched us win sod all, so its OK after all.
But however big the number, when you divide it by zero you still get the same #DIV/0! error...
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| This is also the first test of their salary cap model since Sinfield declared last year that many of his players could earn more elsewhere but are staying at Leeds because of the trophies and the fact that their salary is "topped up" by the salary cap exempt prize money.
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| I'm not backing up RN's trolling attempt but I bet your Chairman would have rather had our way of winning SFA than yours! For example,75 coaches left from Headingley for Wembley at £40 a seat with no concessions (which is disgraceful BTW). Despite not winning the CC it still brought in a tidy sum!
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| Quote ="ryano"I'm not backing up RN's trolling attempt but I bet your Chairman would have rather had our way of winning SFA than yours! For example,75 coaches left from Headingley for Wembley at £40 a seat with no concessions (which is disgraceful BTW). Despite not winning the CC it still brought in a tidy sum!'"
Bit of a silly point really. What SL chairman WOULDN'T want the winfall of a Cup Final?
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"And when would this have been? 'Not that long ago'
Bulls' avg attendance 2010 8,363 (ouch)
Leeds' lowest avg attendance in the last decade 12,157
In Bulls' 2001 championship winning season you got 12,315
The same season Leeds finished 5th and still got more 12,881
Pledge = desperate.'"
You sure those figures are correct Neil?
Even allowing a record breaking run of defeats this season they seem very low. I think we need to know the truth here Bullys! Where's all this Bullmania?
If they are as bad as you claim, then we should do the decent thing and allow them a bigger share of our much larger gate receipts. We are a generous and giving society here in the Southstand after all!
Or perhaps defer their repayments on the Harris thingy may be a better idea.
We really shouldn't have our neighbours reduced to eating the crumbs from our table.....
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"You sure those figures are correct Neil?'"
He's being very selective. He chose a season when we were at Valley Parade for one, when numerous fans stayed away due to that fact.
There are other seasons with bigger averages than that. But hey, why would we need to use accurate figures during trolling attempts?
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"You sure those figures are correct Neil?
Even allowing a record breaking run of defeats this season they seem very low. I think we need to know the truth here Bullys! Where's all this Bullmania?
If they are as bad as you claim, then we should do the decent thing and allow them a bigger share of our much larger gate receipts. We are a generous and giving society here in the Southstand after all!
Or perhaps defer their repayments on the Harris thingy may be a better idea.
We really shouldn't have our neighbours reduced to eating the crumbs from our table.....
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Jog on.
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| This is the pledge thread so any drifting off into Leeds vs Bradford pi55ing contests will be binned.
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