Was wondering the very same thing earlier today. Always had his finger on the pulse, unfortunately always seemed to be the wrong one....

Quote ="Surely not"https://twitter.com/marcngreen/status/693737437831548928?s=09 Nothing ever changed really..'" Ditto see below albeit this time and with the benefit of hindsight KM's statement has proven to be utter twaddle and hollow promises from the RFL. We must ask how many more times are the Bulls fans willing to be (allegedly) duped by our purportedly not fit for purpose governing body? : https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... gby-league

Quote ="Surely not"https://twitter.com/marcngreen/status/693737437831548928?s=09 Nothing ever changed really..'" Ditto see below albeit this time and with the benefit of hindsight KM's statement has proven to be utter twaddle and hollow promises from the RFL. We must ask how many more times are the Bulls fans willing to be (allegedly) duped by our purportedly not fit for purpose governing body? : https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... gby-league

TBF at that time I think Frank had a "reliable source" he was spot on with Rohan Smiths appointment.

I wonder if it was David Thorne he was referring to. Chev Walker tweeted today that he and the Bulls squad met David Thorne at that time and was most honest and up front person they'd seen at the Bulls.

Seems like a good question, but before answering could you kindly clarify what exactly are you asking in respect of the latter part of your query.

I still visit the forum from time to time, I got a few things right too - Rohan Smith anyone, but my 'source' left the club. There was a second consortium in for us at the time if you all recall, but AC was anointed by big Nige - that's pretty much when I stopped giving a crap, though I remain a season ticket holder for my 13 year old daughter who is reduced to tears by this whole sorry mess, and Ethan Ryan leaving.

I just don't care enough anymore.

So nice to hear those highly encouraging words c/o Chev in respect of David Thorne.

The time may now have come for Dave to re-emerge and become part of the new consortium who have no ties to the RFL inspired disastrous ownership incarnations of the past 7 years or so.

Yes.

Why would he continue to ratify men pwithout the necessary levers to maximize the chances of success going forward, if jndeed he was pulling the strings with good intentions?

I can see why if he was doing so without good intentions, but I'm unsure what he stands to gain from it? What would he stand to gain from this club good Ng out of business and ceasing to exist?

So Pestegg (I forget who coined that phrase, but I'm steaing it, it's excellent) is making insinuations that David Thorne is one of their number (before editing the post).

Quite ironic that Chev said how open and honest David was, which totally contradicts Pestegg's cloak and dagger posts. So forgive me if I don't believe a fecking word. In fact, I don't think 99% of this forum does, no matter how much "they" say otherwise.

As a Fax fan I do enjoy putting one over you lot but understand how you all must feel with this happening again. I'm not hear to gloat.

I dont know what's going but I dont think any one does.

I have been reading this daily....but what the Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo is nest egg on. Just ignore the pr1ck. Seems to be just a stirer.

Just seems to be a wind up merchant.

Thank You.Feel free to use the phrase anytime.
Dictionary Definition of a Pest.
"An annoying person or thing.A nuisance"
Enough said.

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Thank you for clarifying your query. We can seek to answer as follows:

1) It is alleged that 'he', despite statements and assertions to the contrary, has never acted with good intentions in respect of the Bulls or Odsal. It can be further alleged based on the current facts available that 'he' may also be acting with selfish intent and/or greed as may have others.

2) It is alleged that 'he' c/o his former employer always intended for the Bulls to become the shambles that it has become over recent years in order to ultimately come to a mutually convenient arrangement with others to maximise the development potential of Odsal and in doing so seek to take full advantage of the clause in the stadium's head lease which meant that RL would no longer have to be played at the ground post mid 2019.

3) It is further alleged that Chalmers was conveniently introduced in early 2017 by 'him' c/o the RFL in order to ensure that the club left Odsal immediately post season end 2019, which they have done. It can be argued that despite the fake news and figures put out by AC in the T&A, there was no real justification or need for the Bulls to have left Odsal. If the RFL had even come close to honouring their repair and maintenance obligation in the Odsal head lease (or at least the spirit thereof) then the stadium would have remained fit for purpose for use as a RL venue to the present day and far beyond. It was not the Bulls responsibility to 'look after' Odsal. Moreover, it should go without saying that if the lease covenant re playing RL at the stadium were to become redundant in say the year 2070 then the need to get the Bulls out of Odsal would in reality have never arisen, at least not in 'his' lifetime.

4) What would 'he' - the instigator - and the RFL et al stand to gain from the above alleged dastardly plot? Simple; it is alleged that it is money in the form of for example a finders fee from a developer who could seek to maximise Odsal's development potential in particular with the alleged assistance of the planning community and related BMDC unelected officials. For the avoidance of doubt no accusations can be cited in respect of BMDC's Leader and elected officers.

5) Despite it appearing to be self-evident what has been going on, can the above be proven, if need be, in a court of law? Moreover, haven't the RFL Board of Directors ever queried what the hell has been going on in this regard, and in particular in respect of three embarrassing and dramatically failed owner incarnations from 2014 to 2019 resulting in circa £4M in unpaid and largely unrecoverable debts. That is without doubt an absolute disgrace, and in any normal sport's governing body heads would surely have had to roll.

The evidence to prove the above is being gathered, and adequate and definitive proof is close to hand as persons continue to work on it, ask questions and conclude investigations. If anybody has any related evidence or contact names, or other whistleblowers from within the RFL (inc former employees some of whom are now with Super League Europe), to put forward in this regard please do not hesitate to send us a private message (PM) on this site. In order to protect you for legal reasons please mark any such message as being 'Private & Confidential'.

Notwithstanding the above there is of course a possibility that the aforementioned and related allegations may lack merit, and that all informants etc in respect of this issue may have been mistaken.

T and A reporting that Eric Perez founder of Toronto could be on board with Mark Sawyers consortium.

I like Perez - he's passionate and dynamic and, whilst he's not wealthy, I don't see him operating in an system without a good budget.

Not sure and 'all or nothing' approach is what's needed, though. I'm happier on the cut your cloth side. Hey ho - what will be and all that.

And who is alleging each individual allege-ment Pestegg?

I said in a post the other day that I had noticed the times of some of the very long and well written posts at 2am.
I wonder if they are actually posting at a different time where they are - say 9pm rather than 2am. Just a thought!

It's just a rumour in the T&A re: Perez. I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else.

Given the T&A's cutbacks and lack of dedicated RL reporter, I wouldn't necessarily get too carried away with it.

Or it could be an angry antipodean posting from Aus. If he has been pushed out that is. Would be round about midday....

I had also thought of that along with a mate of his who happened to be down there last week. I doubt that it is someone here who has come home from the pub at 2am and sat down and written such a detailed and well written post. This is why I also said I doubt it is MG as he isn't up to that standard of literary competence. It is a professional person who puts in a great deal of effort. If it is a troll then the joke is on him for putting in that much effort.

10/10 for initiative mate.

One of us may be, and another one of us may have just landed.

Are you coming to the sold out events tonight and tomorrow?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... o-wolfpack If it is Perez is it going to be British Columbia Bulls?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... o-wolfpack If it is Perez is it going to be British Columbia Bulls?

I do wonder if they realise that by continually conducting their business via social media it gives them the same gravitas and believability as Donald Trump?

All be it that their grammar is somewhat better....

So, we've had hints at Thorne, hints at someone flying in from Canada, hints that the book would be a best seller in Salford.

Perez, Marwan and Thorne covered.... who's next? Maybe Nestegg will turn out to be a true 'Gladiator' eh? Then all RL loving millionaires are covered.

And I thought Dewsbury was far enough to travel for home games.

I didn't realise Jet liked RL. I'm hoping that one's true though.

Well, hope for the best and expect the worst is the usual maxim, I guess. To be fair I'll be surprised at nothing where the Bulls are concerned.