The most bizarre thing about this is he is not talking to the administrator, who theoretically now owns the club, assuming that the bid to change ownership and title has not been accepted on the 31st jan.
Wait for it:
He is only talking to the RFL! Are they the owners of our club.
Cos if they are, I'm out of here PDQ?

In the case of your team you would have to pay him first?
Then I suspect the screwing would be more meaningful, as he has had to wait a long time for the pleasure?

NB This is a cap fitting exercise that may or may not bear any relationship to the truth, but at least it puts your outfit in the same pot as what you say we are in, you may say embarrassment by association.
So stop your smug appraisals and the pot calling, you and many other of your club supporters have indulged in for some time now.

Both as bad as each other I reckon !

Hetherington parachuted in there by her husband to keep them going, funds ploughed in from RFL, ground unfit for use and still no sign of a new stadium. Begging bowl hasn't been out for a while, I must admit.

One VERY good thing about Wakefield is that they haven't previously had Bradford's arrogant attitude.

Time for Bulls to wind up and start again, but I wonder if there is a Trevor Foster around nowadays to rebuild the dream. He must be turning in his grave.

Sorry, who are 'WE'?

'We' as in the Bradford Bulls supporters raised 500k to pay debts 'we' didn't run up.

'You' as in all Wakefield fans minus Andrew Glover were asked to do the same and refused. Without Glover, 'you' would have been liquidated.

Andrew Glover may have some right to come on here and hand out sermons on paying debts, but the rest of you, who refused to pay ten pence each need to go buy a mirror because the hypocrisy is stomach churning.

And now a Hull fan, and they have every right to take a moral high ground of course. Maybe should have wound you up instead of shafting Gateshead.

Problem with that is that we will be relegated by then. You didn't have that issue. Oh or the half pay. That's a special treat reserved for us.

I'm not bothered about the "who is the best fan" argument, but the reality was that if we had stumped up we would have gone into liquidation but maybe a few months later, except a lot of people would have been £1,000 down.

I suspect with hindsight this whole sorry period may turn out to be the best thing that happened. The new company put some distance from OK Bulls, bought some time and allowed someone to come in who reckons he has the business savvy to invest in and run the club. Subject to surviving relegation, this might all be cold coals this time next year.

Your real problem is the timing, in that you haven't had the time to recruit to replace the leavers.

I don't understand this anymore. Who is in admin? OK Bulls or BB2014? Who put us into admin? OK Bulls or BB2014?
If OK, then why put us in admin yet want to buy us back? Why are BB2014 getting punished? And surely the half income is connected to OKBulls not the new lot?
So if the new lot come in and pay off the debts, then surely they need full income? And no points deduction. Who is not getting paid in all this?

I am totally confused now.

Directors can call in administrators, as happened with OK Bulls.
Moore, Calvert and the other one (i know Moore wasn't actually a director at the time), called in administrators without OK's knowing. This was an attempt to purchase the club as BB2014 and not need to pay Omar for his shares.

They well and truly tried to shaft OK (not saying that's a bad thing), as a result, Omar lost everything he put into the Bulls (by all accounts this was just a load of secured loans).

You're missing point, Kinley Cat, "knows a fair bit about maning up, taking our medicine, and doing the right thing".

What he/she actually means is I 'know a fair bit about standing to one side while Glover, then Carter pick up the tab and rescue my club."

Who, apart from Glover, has the right to come on here and act righteously? It's trolling without the wit to know it.

My understanding is that it was the company which gave Whitcut the loan who called for admin and [inot[/i the directors. They are entitled to do this as creditors.

Your right, sure I read it somewhere but it appears the security company called in administrators

[urlhttp://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/local/localbrad/10980461.New_Bradford_Bulls_owners_to_seek_approval_of_deal_from_RFL/[/url

The link below seems to indicate the reason for administration was OK's failure to transfer the shares;

[urlhttp://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/article/8854/bulls-complete-ownership-change[/url

Confused much?

None of OK's loans were secured.

The company had net liabilities of Well over £1m. My guess is much more. It was insolvent. OK's shares were therefore worthless.

The administrator was appointed on the application to the High Court by a moneylending company to whom Whitcu*t had sold a share and from whom he had had the company borrow £180k, secured on the company's assets. A truly, truly bizarre action by him.

Hope that helps you get your facts straight.

Various outside observers, especially from Wakefield, clearly believed this was all something orchestrated by the RFL and designed to ensure a relatively painless transition to new ownership. If it WAS as they allege, it would seem that the law of unexpected consequences has kicked in. Far from any seamless transition, we now have yet more ongoing uncertainty before knowing who the hell will actually own the club. And a current board who could be turfed out on the decision of the administrator, with fans playing merry hell looking for someone to blame, who could probably be forgiven for concluding why the hell bother?

What an ongoing almighty mess.

Wow, that's the last time I admit I was wrong! ^^

but the £500k you raised wasn't used to pay off debts, it was used to clear directors liabilities so that those that got you in to the mess originally walked away with their houses in tact


When you went in to admin (before OK took over) you still had debts, so the £500k you raised didn't save you from admin, it saved your directors from being homeless

With gloating trolls such as kinley who has unsuccessfully tried to mask his rabies with the thinnest veneer of sense, I know which club I personally "despise".

To be fair all clubs have idiots. Wakefield have a few thy have come out of the wood work, snowie, tamaragrace , Wakey til I die, when I read their posts my blood boils.

Then you read posts from one or two bulls posters that just leaves you embarrased!

Scruton to Wakefield the next twist in the tale?

And as ever the point is well and truly missed, although I'm beginning to thing it is being done purposefully.
You used to have my sympathy...but alas that has now dried up.

Something that I've heard but I am not in the know.
I think RHP 'update' may be regarding this and others departure?
I am a rugby league fan and I would like Bradford to remain in SL (Just putting it out their as I may be classed as a 'troll')
P.S I think kinley was aiming his post towards your board not the fans, we have all been in the same boat before. Fans can only do limited amounts.

It didn't read like that. It read like someone without theballs to say "I hate Bradford and am delighted". He or she can always clear it up.

It really is getting tiresome now, running you out of town whenever you appear with your usual crap.

I dealt with the above [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=33&t=564010&tsmp=1392486985&start=80[ihere[/i.[/url. Our readers will note that you and others seemed unable to answer the points, so instead did the usual and resorted to derision.

I did the same [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=19&t=559841&tsmp=1392488189&start=220[ia week ago,[/i[/url when you went on the VT spouting garbage about TUPE. And demonstrated you actually did not really understand it at all. Although don't just take my word for it. You were told unequivocally you were wrong by Bullnorthern, who actually knows more about TUPE than you - or I, or quite possibly anyone else on this forum.

Not gloating at all I just think you have taken the soft option and when you cry foul it seems hypocritical, that's all.

Glover was very much the knight in White when we went bust however his financial shortfalls left us in just as much of a mess later on. Certainly Carter has done a fantastic job and when he said we would have to cut our cloth accordingly we all backed him, apart from one prominent forum member, it certainly hasn't been easy, we have all had a lot of medicine.
1/10 for perception 10/10 for missing the point.

Having £1.3m Sky money confiscated - contributing in a very big way to the latest problems - is hardly taking the soft option.

Had you lot been faced with that penalty, I expect it would have been oblivion for you.

And a considerable number of Trinity supporters are doing a pretty fine job of looking like gloaters, dripping with [ischadenfreude[/i - or, at best, making it clear that seeing the Bulls wrecked OFF the park can only help your club survive in SL ON it - on these and other forums.