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| Tinfoil's got a cheek to ask; I ain't stuffing any money into his pockets. If Sunday is the last hurrah then season ticket holders should be able to watch the game without coughing up any more. It's the least they can do.
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| If you can afford to pay then be my guest. If you can't then that's fine. We have put enough money into the club and it is understandable then many of us can't afford it.
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| Not bring funny, I would do anything in my power to help the Bulls but this WILL be like the 500k it will disappear with no affect of the club. Besides I simply cannot afford even £15, so I would not be able to pay. Unfortunatly it's up to the buyer now.....
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| Having neglected to buy a season ticket this year I'll be paying or I don't get in, assuming they've got people on the gates that is.
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| so far for me this season its been x2 season tickets,x2 sponser a player,x2 £100 pledge,think iv'e done my bit so i will be using my season ticket,unless it becomes invalid. bet tinfoil wont be dipping into his pocket to watch the match .
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| I'm compromising....
I'm using the season ticket but going to take the Mrs and one of my daughters for their first game of the year. Told them it might be their last trip to Odsal for a while
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| To the best of my recollection, Guilfoyle most definitely did NOT ask season ticket holders to pay.
I was ten feet from him, and paying close attention.
In fact, he seemed to go out of his way to at best skirt round the question. His final comment on the subject was along the lines of "well if any dedicated fans feel they want to pay, thats fine - happy days". I presume the actual words will be on the to-yube clips.
And IMO he would have been a fool to ask or even suggest it. Why? Because that would be no different, in all practical senses, to the pledge. And, if the club sill goes to the wall, the very last thing he would want would be an army of angry fans demanding their money back, saying they had been talked into paying under false pretenses.
And part of his reply would probably anyway be along the lines of "We have no records of who paid and who did not, so we are in no position to determine if you have any claim".
Don't forget too that it is quite possible (and legal) that any surplus cash could be applied to paying some of his fees and costs.
And nothing above is meant to be any criticism of Guilfoyle - quite the opposite. I felt he handled that issue in a professional and astute manner - left the door open if folk still want to pay, but the caveats were implied and he never said anything that could be see as seeking people to do that. His alternative plea - bring more (paying) people - was totally the correct and proper approach IMO.
Think about it?
Incidentally, I have no intention whatsoever of paying twice. Not as a protest; not because of who may or may not gain control; partly because I paid nearly a grand in total last time, so I fell I have done my bit anyway; but especially because the administrator made it reasonably clear he can put the game on without requiring it, and so any such funds could IMO be better applied to something that the fans had more control over.
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| 'Fool me once - shame on you, fool me twice - shame on me'
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| As the main creditor in this mess is HMRC then in an indirect way tax payers - a catagory most of the posters here fall into - will be picking up the tab.
I was in two minds about paying at the weekend but as one way or another something is going to happen in the next week - new owner or liquidation - then I don't think a few more £ from me at the weekend really makes any difference?
If I thought the money was going to the coaching team or the players - well that would be different - and if anybody does organise a collection for these heros I will definitely contribute. And I also suspect there is going to be the need to do a lot of rebuilding work so I will keep my powder dry till there is a bit more clarity on the situation. Fingers crossed again!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"To the best of my recollection, Guilfoyle most definitely did NOT ask season ticket holders to pay.'"
[urlhttp://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/9793878.Bradford_Bulls_administrator_denies_any_plot_to_buy_club_on_the_cheap/[/url
Quote Season ticket holders agreed to pay again at the turnstiles after the administrator said an attendance of 5,000 would generate cash towards paying the club’s wage bill for July. Supporters also offered to help staff turnstiles and provide security at the game.'"
Whether he said it outright or not he certainly insinuated it Adey, the message came over loud and clear.
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| Quote ="Northern Lad"[urlhttp://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/9793878.Bradford_Bulls_administrator_denies_any_plot_to_buy_club_on_the_cheap/[/url
Whether he said it outright or not he certainly insinuated it Adey, the message came over loud and clear.'"
He didn't. Not at the meeting.
The meeting most definitely did NOT agree to pay on the gate. There was no vote and no request.
Various people OFFERED to, especially amongst those near the front, and I reported above - as best as I can recall - Guilfoyle's response.
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| Im using my season ticket, (paid for it, pledged well over £100, held buckets etc) but, I've made a point to pursuade someone who never goes to come along, so they'll be paying on the gate as an extra and I'm hoping to go spend more than the entrance fee in the club shop....providing its open and staffed.
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| Will not be paying!
However, I understand most of the staff sacked this week will be attending the game. So I will give my money to one of them, most of them on not big salaries.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"He didn't. Not at the meeting.
The meeting most definitely did NOT agree to pay on the gate. There was no vote and no request.
Various people OFFERED to, especially amongst those near the front, and I reported above - as best as I can recall - Guilfoyle's response.'"
My recall as well
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| Quote ="Adeybull"He didn't. Not at the meeting.
The meeting most definitely did NOT agree to pay on the gate. There was no vote and no request.
Various people OFFERED to, especially amongst those near the front, and I reported above - as best as I can recall - Guilfoyle's response.'"
He did insinuate that fans were willing to pay when he was interviewed by Calendar after the meeting.
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| Quote ="Northern Lad"[urlhttp://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/9793878.Bradford_Bulls_administrator_denies_any_plot_to_buy_club_on_the_cheap/[/url
Whether he said it outright or not he certainly insinuated it Adey, the message came over loud and clear.'"
Noticed that bit about season ticket holders agreeing to pay en masse but just assumed it was sloppy reporting as it didn't match what was said in various tweets from the meeting.
Bit like t&a/ guilfoyle saying we only get 2-3k attendance against London. Quick check of attendance figures for last few years would show that to utter . Assume what they meant to say was we only get 2-3k paying on the gate.
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| Quote ="mat"Noticed that bit about season ticket holders agreeing to pay en masse but just assumed it was sloppy reporting as it didn't match what was said in various tweets from the meeting.
Bit like t&a/ guilfoyle saying we only get 2-3k attendance against London. Quick check of attendance figures for last few years would show that to utter rubbish. Assume what they meant to say was we only get 2-3k paying on the gate.'"
In which case his projected revenue figure for the game was way off - 2500 @ £17 = £42,500
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| Well we all know even if theres 2 people there the 'Offical' attendence will be 10,000 plus. So I think he means actual people being in the ground rather than just counting the season ticket holders too.
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| Quote ="feebleweasel"He did insinuate that fans were willing to pay when he was interviewed by Calendar after the meeting.'"
Fair enough, did not see that. But saying fans were willing to pay is a long way from inviting or asking them to. If you are smart with your words (and he is a professional) you can have much of your audience convinced you said something ratehr different to what you actually say, especially when people want to hear it. For example, everyone knows that Caisley promised to bring in new investment, and Hood promised not to call in the pledges unless he had investment for the remainig £500k in place. Except neither said any such thing, to the best of my knowledge. A lot of people read into what they respectively DID say what maybe they wanted to hear. Same with this example, I feel.
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| Me and my Dad are hopefully coming along and I'm going to try and persuade my Mum to come along as well.
My Mum hasn't been to Odsal for a number of years now since she scattered her Dad's ashes on the pitch.
If this is going to be the last game at Odsal I feel I want to be there for my Grandad more than anything else.
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| Brendan Guilfoyle would love everyone to pay twice as it will end up paying him his fee. If you've a season ticket use it, keep the money for when the buyer takes over and outcome is clearer.
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| Quote ="RhinoLaney"Me and my Dad are hopefully coming along and I'm going to try and persuade my Mum to come along as well.
My Mum hasn't been to Odsal for a number of years now since she scattered her Dad's ashes on the pitch.
If this is going to be the last game at Odsal I feel I want to be there for my Grandad more than anything else.'"
Good to hear, hope you all have a good day out.
Stories like this justifies how good the RL community actually is!
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| Quote ="daveyz999"Good to hear, hope you all have a good day out.
Stories like this justifies how good the RL community actually is!'"
Cheers mate!
Bradford Northern will always have a special place in my heart.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Well we all know even if theres 2 people there the 'Offical' attendence will be 10,000 plus. So I think he means actual people being in the ground rather than just counting the season ticket holders too.'"
Say what you want about counting season ticket holders towards the official attendance. We've never been even remotely close to having just 3k in the ground for a London game though.
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| Quote ="mat"Say what to want about counting season ticket holders towards the official attendance. We've never been even remotely close to having just 3k in the ground for a London game.'"
I haven't been using my season ticket since the crisis became public. Unfortunately I have since been getting emails from the club telling me what I have missed. Good for the club to try and drum up support, I was paying at the gate. Although I will admit I used my ST to get into the stand.
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