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| if i was bulls id try to sell burgess now and get some cash then let him walk away on a free next season.
i know alot of fans want him to stay but think hes already made his mind up about wanting to play in oz as the silence from sam has been deafening and think if non of it was true hed have wanted to set the record straight
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| The thing is none of us know if he has got a clause in his contract allowing him to leave for jack all at the end of next year. If he hasn't then it's a terrible idea to even contemplate selling the best player we have, two years in advance of his contracted ending. That would mean we would have to search for a replacement for the next 2 seasons and possibly more who provides the same quality as Sam does and attract him to the club, which will be very hard to come by if not impossible. Losing Burgess would be a massive blow and one that an already weak pack would not be able to deal with.
I to am concerned with the silence from the club and Sam though.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"The thing is none of us know if he has got a clause in his contract allowing him to leave for jack all at the end of next year. If he hasn't then it's a terrible idea to even contemplate selling the best player we have, two years in advance of his contracted ending. That would mean we would have to search for a replacement for the next 2 seasons and possibly more who provides the same quality as Sam does and attract him to the club, which will be very hard to come by if not impossible. Losing Burgess would be a massive blow and one that an already weak pack would not be able to deal with.
I to am concerned with the silence from the club and Sam though.'"
i think its well known he has such a clause in his contract plus the fact his agent has been saying about going for 2011 season to oz so wouldnt say that unless had realse clause.
to be fair think bradford need a scrum half more then we need burgess and who ever we try to sign will not come cheap .so id cash in on him now as dont agree we have a weak pack as next season with hall and lstrange coming in will be a very strong pack plus think scruton is improving all the time.
also if the rumours about ben westwood are true will have a strong 2nd row which is were burgess seema to be playing more these days.
dont get me wrong id love bulls to keep burgess but looking at the bigger picture letting a player who has made his mind up about playing in oz go early so we get some cash for him makes sense.plus dont think bulls want a paul newlove situation again were a players heart is not at the club
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| How many metres does Sam average per game?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I'm not sure if he's single but I hear that debaser and Keith Booaza have plans to dress up as ladies to attempt to seduce young Sam into staying.'"
But it could backfire if he penetrates their disguises
This thread just makes me sad. Losing Sammy would make me think twice before turning up on the gate. Thank the gods Nero is still with us
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| Quote ="Sonic Star"How many metres does Sam average per game?'"
120 metres a game.
7.2 metres per carry.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"120 metres a game.
7.2 metres per carry.'"
Is that good?
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| Quote ="debaser"Is that good?'"
Metres per game doesn't really prove much, only howlong you have on the pitch in some cases. His metre per carry stat is quite impressive, and is certainly up there with some of the best.
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| Reading the article in the T&A today seems to suggest (very loosley) that Burgess is off.
He said: “I can’t really comment on that (Australia). My immediate future is with Bradford and, unless anything changes, I can’t really say anything."
Surely if he was staying he would have said so. Also he says his immediate future is with the bulls, not his long term future, which suggests he may only have a couple of games left with us. Or on the other hand he is giving nothing away and is yet to decide, but i reckon he is off sooner rather than later. If he wants to go the club cannot stop especially if he has the get out clause for the end of next season, good luck to him. I hope that he is as good and better than Ellis has been down under.
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| Quote ="Richard_bull"Reading the article in the T&A today seems to suggest (very loosley) that Burgess is off.
He said: “I can’t really comment on that (Australia). My immediate future is with Bradford and, unless anything changes, I can’t really say anything."
Surely if he was staying he would have said so. Also he says his immediate future is with the bulls, not his long term future, which suggests he may only have a couple of games left with us. Or on the other hand he is giving nothing away and is yet to decide, but i reckon he is off sooner rather than later. If he wants to go the club cannot stop especially if he has the get out clause for the end of next season, good luck to him. I hope that he is as good and better than Ellis has been down under.'"
He said the same on yorkshire radio yesterday seems very keen to go to the NRL the sooner the better!
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| Im sure Fui Fui Moi Moi will be looking forward to seeing Sam again.
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| Quote ="OoOGazOoO"Im sure Fui Fui Moi Moi will be looking forward to seeing Sam again.'"
You'd have thought he'd had enough of that . . . . . .
Looking up at Sam from the floor must be playing havoc with Moi Moi's neck
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| Quote ="Bullpower"You'd have thought he'd had enough of that . . . . . .
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Lol, i think Moi Moi said he had to drink liquids for 3-4 weeks after as he couldnt eat.
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| I'm sure Moi Moi is a bigger man than wanting to seek out a bit of Utu
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| He's definitely of, thats sealed it, it's just a matter of when. I really hope its not for next season though, we really need Burgess, and he would be the hardest lpayer in our squasd to replace.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"He's definitely of, thats sealed it, it's just a matter of when. I really hope its not for next season though, we really need Burgess, and he would be the hardest lpayer in our squasd to replace.'"
I agree, you'd have to buy a new centre to replace him.
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| Quote ="Bullpower"I'm sure Moi Moi is a bigger man than wanting to seek out a bit of Utu
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It didn't work when Leeds tried it
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| Quote ="OoOGazOoO"I agree, you'd have to buy a new centre to replace him.'"
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"He's definitely of, thats sealed it, it's just a matter of when. I really hope its not for next season though, we really need Burgess, and he would be the hardest lpayer in our squasd to replace.'"
I am sad to see Sam go but if he is certain to go I'd rather see him go next year & we get some compo.
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| well will have to look at his reaction on sunday as that could be his last home game at odsal if hes going nxt season if nothing is announced before then
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| Quote ="XxHONEYxX"well will have to look at his reaction on sunday as that could be his last home game at odsal if hes going nxt season if nothing is announced before then'"
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| I'd rather him play two more seasons for him than allow him to leave for what will probably less than his market value and not see a bean of it go towards signing any players or improving the coaching staff.
Not to mention the money we will lose on merchandise with Sam's name on it.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"I'd rather him play two more seasons for him than allow him to leave for what will probably less than his market value and not see a bean of it go towards signing any players or improving the coaching staff.
Not to mention the money we will lose on merchandise with Sam's name on it.'"
cant see that hapening as think hes made his mind up about going to oz
think bulls will get a fair sum for him and will use it to strenthen squad with a top class scrum half
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"I'd rather him play two more seasons for him than allow him to leave for what will probably less than his market value and not see a bean of it go towards signing any players or improving the coaching staff. Not to mention the money we will lose on merchandise with Sam's name on it.'" But can we actually keep him here for two years if an NRL club comes in by the end of next year? It seems pretty certain the clause exists so perhaps your thinking is a little short term? If Sam has asked for us to release him early if we can strike a deal then I think we are doing the right thing. If he leaves on good terms I'd say the chances of him returning are much higher than if we try keeping him here and holding him back. In four years time there is a good chance his younger brothers could be 1st team players and that would surely be a big plus in our favour when he decides to return home.
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| Quote ="bradbull"cant see that hapening as think hes made his mind up about going to oz
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He can make his mind up all he wants, he's our player and we decide if he goes before his contract ends, not him.
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