A few lines in League Express about Nigel Wood being asked questions at the World 9s. Apparently Chalmers was there in an executive box and when Wood was questioned about it, just stated Chalmers was formerly involved with the NZRL so not surprising he was attending an international game. When Wood was asked about involvement with Bradford, he chose not to talk about it.

A serious question here Dillgaf - do you trust Nigel?

How can that possibly be a serious question? Nobody trusts Nigel...

Quote ="nestegg"As was in fact said by nestegg in a post some 2 hours ago, i.e. presumably prior to the feature being uploaded by the rag that is (allegedly) the T&A. You really are on the ball aren't you ..yes you did say that a couple of hours prior ..... I don't suppose you got it from the T&A yesterday though did you ? https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -accounts/ Really must try harder "MATE"

Quote ="nestegg"As was in fact said by nestegg in a post some 2 hours ago, i.e. presumably prior to the feature being uploaded by the rag that is (allegedly) the T&A. You really are on the ball aren't you ..yes you did say that a couple of hours prior ..... I don't suppose you got it from the T&A yesterday though did you ? https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -accounts/ Really must try harder "MATE"

Wouldn't admin result in a 12 point deduction, as well as a division demotion?

Of course the RFL* make their own rules - who else would??

*Or rather the member clubs of the RFL.

=#4000BFQuote from NoBull: [i" You really are on the ball aren't you ..yes you did say that a couple of hours prior ..... I don't suppose you got it from the T&A yesterday though did you ? https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -accounts "[/i Yes, we admit that we were mistaken mate, as we are always wiling to do if we err; which is inevitable given the ever changing nature of this ongoing saga/ farce. We were actually surprised that Dillgaf appeared to refer to 'it' as 'news', and he has apologised which is good of him. Anyhow, we don't generally read rags as they do not employ serious investigative journalists and sometimes just churn out press releases. That is why to date the RFL have been allowed to get away with so much alleged malpractice over the past 6-7 years and have heaped repeated misery on the Bulls; all for the main part without proper scrutiny and/or an independent investigation. Back to the present. Regardless of when CB's delaying tactics were announced, the reality is that he and his SCC have surely had sufficient time to get his/ their house in order. It's embarrassing and does not bode too well. At this rate, what are the odds on administration by on or before Xmas ?

=#4000BFQuote from NoBull: [i" You really are on the ball aren't you ..yes you did say that a couple of hours prior ..... I don't suppose you got it from the T&A yesterday though did you ? https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -accounts "[/i Yes, we admit that we were mistaken mate, as we are always wiling to do if we err; which is inevitable given the ever changing nature of this ongoing saga/ farce. We were actually surprised that Dillgaf appeared to refer to 'it' as 'news', and he has apologised which is good of him. Anyhow, we don't generally read rags as they do not employ serious investigative journalists and sometimes just churn out press releases. That is why to date the RFL have been allowed to get away with so much alleged malpractice over the past 6-7 years and have heaped repeated misery on the Bulls; all for the main part without proper scrutiny and/or an independent investigation. Back to the present. Regardless of when CB's delaying tactics were announced, the reality is that he and his SCC have surely had sufficient time to get his/ their house in order. It's embarrassing and does not bode too well. At this rate, what are the odds on administration by on or before Xmas ?

Hearing a young forward is coming to Leeds, would guess that’s Matty Storton?

Quote ="No Bull" You really are on the ball aren't you ..yes you did say that a couple of hours prior ..... I don't suppose you got it from the T&A yesterday though did you ? https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -accounts/ Really must try harder "MATE"'" Apologies, I didn't realise it had mentioned yesterday. As I said previously, been away a couple of days so not quite up to date. T&A (and other idiots) recycling news it appears!

Quote ="No Bull" You really are on the ball aren't you ..yes you did say that a couple of hours prior ..... I don't suppose you got it from the T&A yesterday though did you ? https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -accounts/ Really must try harder "MATE"'" Apologies, I didn't realise it had mentioned yesterday. As I said previously, been away a couple of days so not quite up to date. T&A (and other idiots) recycling news it appears!

Quote ="nestegg"=#4000BFQuote from NoBull: [i" You really are on the ball aren't you ..yes you did say that a couple of hours prior ..... I don't suppose you got it from the T&A yesterday though did you ? https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -accounts "[/i Yes, we admit that we were mistaken mate, as we are always wiling to do if we err; which is inevitable given the ever changing nature of this ongoing saga/ farce. We were actually surprised that Dillgaf appeared to refer to 'it' as 'news', and he has apologised which is good of him. Anyhow, we don't generally read rags as they do not employ serious investigative journalists and sometimes just churn out press releases. That is why to date the RFL have been allowed to get away with so much alleged malpractice over the past 6-7 years and have heaped repeated misery on the Bulls; all for the main part without proper scrutiny and/or an independent investigation. Back to the present. Regardless of when CB's delaying tactics were announced, the reality is that he and his SCC have surely had sufficient time to get his/ their house in order. It's embarrassing and does not bode too well. At this rate, what are the odds on administration by on or before Xmas ?'" Sounds like you're wishing the new consortium to fail.

Quote ="nestegg"=#4000BFQuote from NoBull: [i" You really are on the ball aren't you ..yes you did say that a couple of hours prior ..... I don't suppose you got it from the T&A yesterday though did you ? https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -accounts "[/i Yes, we admit that we were mistaken mate, as we are always wiling to do if we err; which is inevitable given the ever changing nature of this ongoing saga/ farce. We were actually surprised that Dillgaf appeared to refer to 'it' as 'news', and he has apologised which is good of him. Anyhow, we don't generally read rags as they do not employ serious investigative journalists and sometimes just churn out press releases. That is why to date the RFL have been allowed to get away with so much alleged malpractice over the past 6-7 years and have heaped repeated misery on the Bulls; all for the main part without proper scrutiny and/or an independent investigation. Back to the present. Regardless of when CB's delaying tactics were announced, the reality is that he and his SCC have surely had sufficient time to get his/ their house in order. It's embarrassing and does not bode too well. At this rate, what are the odds on administration by on or before Xmas ?'" Sounds like you're wishing the new consortium to fail.

No big deal mate, but it would be appreciated if members don't keep drawing unduly negative inferences from our growing number of (and probably too many!) recent posts.

Can we be clear. As said numerous times we hear reasonably good things about CB and would on balance prefer for Chris and his SCC to succeed, but given the recent back story, the apparent 'strings', and things he is unlikely to yet know about sadly we don't expect that to be the case, or that they will be left highly vulnerable to collapse in the short term or a more meaningful takeover.

Moreover, even if CB does a) 'finally' take over after months of apparent DD, and b) help stabilise the Bullship, is mere survival 'success' ? Surely, a club of our stature, potential, and underlying fan base deserve a bit better than that.

Do members think it would be good moving forward for a management team and meaningful investors to finally come on board who are truly free of strings and certain alleged undue external influences?

Well they've had enough bloody opportunity before now to invest... so what has changed? I honestly don't believe there is anyone with genuine financial clout ready to take the club on. So yes, mere survival and a slow and gradual rebuild is probably what is needed. Unfortunately that was needed 3 years ago and I'm not sure I have enough interest left in the sport to start the process again.

The rules are all available to see on the internet if you can be bothered to look for them....

Re AE123/Bulls (2014) - the company was dormant until the name change in July, around the same time as the announcement of the move to Dewsbury. No doubt just a coincidence.....

Well said Bully, but what a crying shame. We genuinely find your (understandable) dismay upsetting.

BTW, you've made no reference to the influence of the 'strings' and the adverse role that has been played for yonks by uncalled for external influences. We feel that this 'issue' may well get to the core of the mess that we are in, and we fear that CB and his SCC may not in reality be able to adequately free themselves of such constraints.

Really depressing to see the (lack of) update in League Express this morning

Someone caught up with Nigel Wood at the World 9s and tried to talk to him about the Bulls, only to receive a curt 'brush off'. When questioned about why Andrew Chalmers was in the Executive box with him, he made some mealy-mouthed comment about Chalmers formerly being involved with the New Zealand International team. Then when asked directly if he could comment on the Bulls, his reply was 'No, not really'. A follow-up question about whether he was involved in the consortium got the reply 'We are here to talk about the World Cup'.

Silence speaks volumes eh Nigel? I note that he certainly didn't deny anything, which he could have done if there is no connection. Looks like there's no smoke without fire. And whilst he's demolishing the buffet bar at a (doubtless all-expenses paid) junket, the Bulls fans and players are left wondering what the hell is happening to our club.

Thanks Nigel

It all comes back to the land & the lease. Hood & the RFL (Nigel) making a "deal" to protect Odsal from "vultures".
The other way of looking at that is the RFL took the last asset from a financially distressed member club to cover the huge unsecured loan they had foolishly decided to forward to Hood 6months previously. The resulting entanglement & conflict of interest has affected everything since. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though.

Finally, we find some common ground.

You, and Highlander in the post above, are spot on.

Can we be a bit clearer. Your words, and those of Highlander, articulate a key issue that we are seeking to address, and one which needs once and for all to be addressed for this club to have a cat in hell's chance of moving forward. We reiterate that we have very good reason to believe that CB and his SCC (if they ever get around to taking an interest) will not be free of the constraints that have now plagued us, and held us back, for years.

Yes, the RFL Board, current and past, may deserve to be .....



That said, if you shoot the nesteggers you may end up shooting the messenger !

The fact Woody sold Thrum hall resulting in Halifax becoming penniless, destitute and a shadow of their former selves tells us all we needed to know about Wood and his financial meddlings.

Got any robust proof?

And what of the role played in all of this by NW's Wimbledon pal, and ex RFL and SE Chair, Richard Lewis?

On the face of it I would agree that certain external influences have played against us in our recent financial plight. However, for eons, Odsal has never been an appropriate venue, in this sport, as a basis for running a business on a budget.Not helped in any way by the hapless lease issues which were deemed essential for survival but subsequently has all but destroyed us.It would be crazy, without a wealthy benefactor, that anyone would expect us to prosper as an entity in our own right. The responsibility is solely on us as a Club and having to rely on outside involvement to sustain us was foolhardy.I don't discount any part the RFL have played in all this, but we really have to stand on our own two feet.This we have been unable to do so far. I do agree that as fans we need more clarity as to the puppetry involved in determining Bulls ownership..but this would be irrelevant if we were in any way a going concern with a workable business plan. We have successively lacked credibility and the fans are paying the price yet again.Back to basics is a bit raw for some of us but perfectly understandable, but in the longer term, any Owner will need the co-operation of other Partners in moving forwards in Bradford. Just my view for what it's worth.

Well that's torn it........

Yeah, I'm surprised neggers didn't see that coming.

Must have put his crystal ball in for polishing over the weekend?

Chris Brereton has pulled out of the deal

Nest egg, presuming you’ll be putting a bid in with your investor?

https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... alks-away/

https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... alks-away/