Donno was sat on the bench at the end with a big foot brace on didn't look great

That was dire. No attacking threat at all. Nothing. Defence is practically non-existent. Leeds didn't need to get out of second gear. They will have had tougher training sessions then that.
How many times did we drop the ball?
Abysmal and embarrassing.

Embarrassing!!!

Don't know where to begin. Defence is pathetic. Every player using same tackling technique. Arms and high.
Not one player except kear bent their backs. No one put their shoulder in.

Attack. What attack. Jesus it was beyond bad! No dummy runners. Superstar Luke Gale hitting the first man time after time. Usually inaccurately. I've read children's books that are harder to read than he is. Organsiation was laughable.

No passion, power, pride or effort today. It was a derby again our arch rivals and the players could not be bothered. Time for Cummins to go.

Really sad thing is, if Leeds really tried today, it would have been 80+. They never got out of first gear

Let's be honest Leeds won at a canter. They started fast, got the game won in the first 15 minutes, then basically coasted through the next 40 minutes, and turned on the class for a few tries at the end. It was like a practice game for them.

As for us - no passion, no fire, no fight. We make little attempt to get off the line in defence and just wait for the attackers to come to us, meaning its easy for the opposition to make yardage with every set. Then we are so slow around the play the ball, that the opposition are in our faces. Everyone complains about the other team being offside, but its not that - its just that we are so slow to get the ball moving they have ample time to move up.

Really, if it hadn't been for the interception, I don't think we'd have scored - albeit Gaskell showed a fair turn of pace.

And now it looks like Donaldson could be crocked, just when you think it can't get worse....

theres more than one sad thing, but you could start to get sick of the game being gone after 15 minutes

i would be interested to know each player's assessment of his own performance, after watching the video of that

Men against boys, if Leeds had gone up to top gear we could have had a cricket score against us, when we where battered by hudds and hull we where on skeleton staff damage limitation, that was a full strength team who where ripped to pieces by Leeds who didn't need to get out of first when they did they scored every time.

The confidence has gone now and our only hope of surviving is to get 6pts back and have wakey and London docked points for what ever reason I think of next, but I think we are doomed now.

And I agree with all bull mania has said, lazy pressure Leeds where always on the front foot even in defence our slow ptb allowed them to close us to maybe 1-5m each lay our lack of pressure allowed them to make 10+ with not much effort, our only good points game from Leeds trying to be cocky which they could do as they knew we didn't have anything to scare them with. You can see how far we have fallen when that was just another day at the office.

And paul walker I agree Leeds may have been offside once or twice but for the most part and this goes for the majority of other teams ie. Wigan, Leeds and wire they are just on the front foot as soon as the ball is played we don't stand a chance to gain.

Where do you start?! Play like that again and we won't pick up another point all year.

Is Cummins the right man to steady this sinking ship?

In fairness, neither that nor any of the immediate games coming up will have any bearing on our chances of avoiding the basement, as realistically we were never going to win any of those.

it's more that we will never beat anybody with that attitude and execution. we can but hope we' ve got the sheeite out of our system by the time we get to a winnable fixture.

Pointless buying in more players. Money should be spent on an Assistant and a defensive Coach. As already said we are static in defence and he opposition just walk 10m every play, then we miss tackles and gift more possession. The occasional mistake we benefit from just results in a mistake of our own or a stupid offload that we bomb.

I never thought I'd find myself shouting "line speed" at a super league side. That's the sort of thing you remind the under 10's about

All's OK tonight wasn't one of the games we had targeted for a win "direct quote from club official".

I wondered how long it would be before the assistant coach one cropped up.

Well where else do we go other than down? I would be happy to see small improvements each week, something that shows we are learning from mistakes. But no we just seem to get better at making the same mistakes and lazy sloppy play. We can't replace the Players but we could strengthen the Coaching Staff.

For me for any chance of us surviving the head coach needs replacing with some with more experience. It's not good when you can be heard arguing with a player during the game.

Tell us more. Arguing with who, and about what?

No idea who it was with you could only hear one side of the conversation.

The other thing about tonight is that it seemed like the flattest atmosphere I can remember for Bulls vs Rhinos Derby

Just 10,106 with what looked like around 3K from Leeds - our floating support really seems to have drained away. Hardly any noise coming from the crowd, at least it seemed like that.

What do you expect when we are served up the display we had tonight? I thought in the circumstances it was a good crowd that had very little to cheer about. Says a lot when the only things we had to cheer about were their missed kicks!

Really dull, depressing and dreary! We have been beaten by similar scores when we had a half decent side (2005), but not seen a game where Leeds could treat it as a training exercise like 60 mins of tonight was. Most telling moment for me was the high tackle Leeds were penalised for with about 10 mins to go, our guys stood and watched, the Leeds forwards piled in waiting for the fight, which ever came! For me Cummins has to go! Rookie coach who is out of his depth in this situation. If a team plays with pride I'll follow them (2012 Leeds home, Wigan away), this lot show little pride. If something doesn't change, can't see us winning more than 2 games! I'll still be there, but many won't .

One thing to add, I thought Kearney was great tonight, our MOM by miles, only one try (McGuire) where I thought he could have done better.

Cummins post match reaction. https://audioboo.fm/boos/2085394-bulls- ... ns#t=7m29s Sidlow and Gaskell probably won't play on Monday. Donno and Blythe looking like long term casualties.

Cummins post match reaction. https://audioboo.fm/boos/2085394-bulls- ... ns#t=7m29s Sidlow and Gaskell probably won't play on Monday. Donno and Blythe looking like long term casualties.

Have we actually got 4 fit blokes to bring in?

Diskin maybe if tonight was just a knock, Foster if he recovers. I think George and Roberts are injured. Sam Wood, I suppose.... but then who?

FFS why is it always players who actually put effort in that we loose to injury. Kearney to stand off & kear to full back Monday? At thus point we have little to lose.

I'd give some young players a go. Lets face it we're
Not going to win and at least some of the younger players will play with some hunger.

Its the same mistakes week in and week out, poor tackling, giving up the ball to the opposition on the first or second tackle, dropped ball, poor passing (Gale) little or no attacking plan or not that we can see. The coaching staff should have got a grip of the school boy errors by now if they can't then it's time for a change or are we going to go with the SM story all over again.
We would be lucky to get a win over a Championship side at the moment.