To be honest, "a lucrative testimonial", also requires the active involvement of team mates, fans and club officials of the player involved, so I think I may have just spotted the biggest flaw in that argument.

IF he gave a sincere and contrite apology to the fans, the rest of the team, the coaching staff and the new owners, then I'd take him back. Trouble is, I don't think that's gonna happen

No need at all for any of that nonsense.

All he has to do is to say "I listened to my vermin scumbag agent, who I now realise is a total sack of rat droppings and who was looking after his own interests not mine. I now realise my mistake. I am not the first, and I will not be the last. And I was going to spend the last hour separating him from his testicles, but I could not find any. So I kicked the shìt out of him instead."

Except doubt that will happen either...

It's not going to happen because he wanted to go and doesn't want to return. He didn't play all that often last season and everything was fine so I would say if there's any wrong doing and there is a chance of making something out of it - make as much money out of it as possible - the club needs the money not the player.

Is this the Bateman that has signed a 3 year deal with the Bulls, or some other Bateman?

... and pull ...

To be utterly fair, I don't think he's actually done anything that a court could find 'wrong'. Taking a different view from your mates isn't actionable and (AFAIK) he wasn't legally obliged to accept OK Bulls as his new employer if he didn't want to. He's just found a legal way out of a contract which he clearly didn't want to be in, so from that, I reckon you're dead right and he's unlikely to be coming back.

That said, [iIf[/i he were to decide that maybe he'd been a bit hasty etc etc, and there would be no problems in the dressing room over it, I'd have him back. He was (when fit) in good form and probably wasn't on megabucks and I'd guess it would cost more to replace him with a non-homegrown player. All in all though, I can't really see it happening and expect he'll sign elsewhere before too long.

I have no problem with what he has done more the way he did it. That said I think his position in the Bulls show just how far we have fallen. When Koppy can be our player of the year then it shows really how bad we are. He would not compare too well against any of the awesome foursome.

Whilst I am not impressed with craig's recent conduct he has been over past three years one of our most consistent performers and won over some of his knockers. People who keep going back to old players are in a daydream and not understanding of the past and the present. I think comparing anyone to the awesome foursome is daft and did vagana and fielden not make our team of the century? point that they may have been the best we have ever had all at once and something that is unlikely to happen again. Even Fielden over past four years does not compare to when he himself was part of the awesome foursome....
We have had same with wingers if they are not massive,direct, quick and scoring 30+ tries like Les they are not worth the shirt - get with times and know you enjoyed the past and it was a privelege.

If I am honest looking around the league which props are better than kopczak ? hill,carvell, peacock, o'meley, puletua ? If there is as rumoured even interest from the likes of Leeds, giants, wigan and saints then why are we so quick to knock him? just bitter

You're quite right. I apologize unreservedly. All our players are the best in the league in every position.Potter should have been sacked. We should have finished top of the league even with a 6 point deduction. Feel better now????

But his reasoning for why he should be allowed out of his contract is that he's in a similar position to the players at Rangers. Which is simply not the case. They argued that their contract being moved to the newco would be detrimental to them and their careers. That was agreed by the courts as they would be expect to take a paycut, have no European football AND be playing in the bottom tier of Scottish football. Given the Bulls are staying in SL then and being allowed to compete in the CC, which is the only other competition the club is eligible for, Kopout's argument becomes more than a little shakey. So, unless OK Bulls have said something along the lines of "You're only going to be getting half your salary under the newco" there's no real comparison between his situation and that of the players who left Rangers.

That's your take on it my friend. All the players had the same option under Tupe but as the other player's contracts were more lucrative and the offers they were given from other clubs were substantially less they were too afraid to resign. He would have left anyway the season after found it unfair to be on half the wage of platy,nas,Sykes,scruton. Move on and don't be so bitter if bulls are such a big club then kopczak is easy to replace.

Fook me, another idiot who claims personal knowledge of all the players' contracts, offers and even personal fears. Don't you get that you just make yourself look infantile, you muppet?

I do you clown full facts and figures Kopczak to Huddersfield fact. When you want some facts just ask.

EDIT: Deleted to avoid any potential action against the forum.

Really? So you have full access to all the wage details of the Bulls players and are happy and willing to put that information out into the public forum?

That's nice of you. It's a breach of the data protection act as that's private information you're throwing about there boy.

Kearney had signed up with hull kr if bulls went bang! How UN loyal is he..only cares about his massive wage.
Id say koppy is prob being offered way over 100k at new club,
No data protection issues when bulls boys 2011 says he knows wages! Bulls employees used to have a habit of spouting off about confidential information! Wages, dirty secrets etc plus some payers especially the gob e Aussies
Like to brag about their wages

Spot on if only these supporters knew the truth. The don't need to worry anymore Omar is the saviour.

Take me to court then! I have the money where my mouth is don't worry about that. I might lend Omar some. Might be worth you writing to the club to ask the players to keep confidential matters to themselves.

Isn't talking to yourself a sign of madness?

No! Having Forum Moderator on ones Avatar is!

I think they are saying take bull boys 2011 to court as he says he knows Kearney, le'strange and pryce's wages.
A good starting point if you want to know the bulls players wages Is the red headed woman with the tramp stamps, when shes bin on the pop. she was at bulls til administrator binned her and the others off.
Also a lot of players are on here being keyboard warriors!

I'm sure Site Admin will be very impressed with the site being put at risk of legal action?

Kopout £100k a year

Laugh out loud freaking lots......

£2k a week for an average plodder....

go gove your heads a shake trolls and next time remember "A good lie has an element of truth in it"

2/10 - must try harder

They seem to be breeding..and they said onanism wouldn't work