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| Quote ="6Iestyn6"Fantastic signing if true, can't see us with 3 hookers though aswell as O'Brien who's coming through. Maybe Godwin or Diskin to 13, with Langley and Elima in the 2nd row.'"
didnt we try godwin at loose one game last season? Although I suspect that might be where Royston ends up playing in the short term.
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| It's unbelivable the way some people are talking, there making it out as if we have signed a 34 year old on a three year deal, he's only 28 and still one of the best 9's in the game. He's not played to his best this year, but he has been forced out to accomodate Buderus, a change of club and hopefully he will be back in a England shirt becasue he is quality.
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| Quote ="mat"didnt we try godwin at loose one game last season? Although I suspect that might be where Royston ends up playing in the short term.'"
Yeah Godwin played at 13 as did Heath in the halves.
Myabe that is where Potter sees them both re: cover.
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| Quote ="6Iestyn6"It's unbelivable the way some people are talking, there making it out as if we have signed a 34 year old on a three year deal, he's only 28 and still one of the best 9's in the game. He's not played to his best this year, but he has been forced out to accomodate Buderus, a change of club and hopefully he will be back in a England shirt becasue he is quality.'"
As I've told the Leeds supporters this has the same feeling as when we got Lowes from them back in 1996.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"Yeah Godwin played at 13 as did Heath in the halves.
Myabe that is where Potter sees them both re: cover.'"
seriously doubt potter sees l'estrange as cover. whilst theres not much in it I'd rate l'estrange as better than diskin (on last years form at least). Its debatable though who should be starting hooker and who goes on bench. Only way I could see L'estrange not having one of the hooking roles is if we do move him to scrum half but hopefully we wont go down that route.
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| as a neutral (super Saints !) Diskin sounds like a good move from Mr Potter - great player who didn't get the chances in 2010 because of an inconsistent Buderus imo - hope Wagga stays,he's a steady player who rarely seems to have a bad game when utilised
regarding Greseque,I've seen him play quite a few times in the LER and looks like he could move up to the SL - steady kicker,a better french import than say,Bosc (dodgy ankles etc) imo
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| The way L'Estrange plays, I'd say he's got more impact coming off the bench. But the strength in depth for next season is what's got me excited about going to Odsal. There's no-one in the team who's guaranteed to start. For every player who gets into the starting 13 there's 2 guys right behind him looking to get his spot.
[size=50Admittedly I'm ignoring the half backs, but I'm sure that area will be sorted soon.[/size
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| Quote ="6Iestyn6"Fantastic signing if true, can't see us with 3 hookers though aswell as O'Brien who's coming through.'"
Why not? With the exception of the halves, we have more than enough players in every other position. Why should hooker be any different? If we assume that 2 hookers in the 17 is the way Potter wants to go, and I see no reason why that wouldn't be the case, why wouldn't we have 3, considering O'Brien is still only 17 years old and clearly not ready for regular Super League action?
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Why not? With the exception of the halves, we have more than enough players in every other position. Why should hooker be any different? If we assume that 2 hookers in the 17 is the way Potter wants to go, and I see no reason why that wouldn't be the case, why wouldn't we have 3, considering O'Brien is still only 17 years old and clearly not ready for regular Super League action?'"
think the difference is, in the other positions once you get past the more obvious starting players the backup players tend to be either younger academy players or ones we're taking a bit of a gamble on (either injury wise or because of obvious deficiencies in their games). whereas we now have 3 SL level players on SL level wages. just seems like a big chink of salary cap to tie up when we mroe obviously need to strengthen in the halves. hopefully we'll get good news in that department in next week or so too though. If we manage to sort the halves out and keep all the players under contract so far then we've managed the cap exceptionally well imo.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Diskin is only 28. He's got plenty of miles on the clock.'"
Exactly. If this is true its a very good signing and probably suits all parties. We get an upgrade at 9, assuming Diskin and Heath over Heath and Godwin. Diskin gets 3 year deal rather than 1, Leeds create the room to bring in westerman and promote the promising McShane whilst keeping Buderus at 9.
As for 3 hookers in the squad, whats the issue? Its pretty clear to me that Potter is making sure he has at least one cover per squad slot throughout the squad (Halves excepted ), if you assume 2 hookers in the 17, Potter clearly likes his gameplans to involve multiple hookers, then if we start with 2 in the 17, one back up and one youngster to make a group of 4 players for 2 places... that seems to fit perfectly to me.
Its up to Heath, Diskin, and Godwin to make a 17 spot thiers. Competition for places is essential and [ishould [/iraise performance all other things being equal.
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| From a Leeds fan:
Diskin's a good player, and can play at Loose forward or second row, but he's not an impact player, he just adds a bit of intelligence to your game.
He was our better hooker this year, so why we are letting him go, i really don't know.
But we have adequate cover coming through, good luck to him though.
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| Think HL will play 7 personally.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Think HL will play 7 personally.'"
I hope not. He's ok there as a makeshift, but if he was a regular choice there, I don't think I'd be particularly confident.
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| What about Diskin as a ball playing Loose Forward ?
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"I hope not. He's ok there as a makeshift, but if he was a regular choice there, I don't think I'd be particularly confident.'"
Depends. I assume if that's what Potter intended that he'd have a full pre-season of training. Besides, its no more ludicrous that Brian Smith turning Robby into a scrum half just to win a bet! (Or so it is alleged)
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| Quote ="JUDGE666"I wonder where this leaves Godwin?.........'"
i'd have him bk at Hull FC, move berrigan to centre and godwin and houghton to share the hooker role
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| Disco will do a good job for you, but he's not the player he was prior to his bad leg injury. We've had great service from him over the years, and I certainly don't begrudge him leaving for a 3 year deal.
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| Apparently, he's had his best years now and he's coming to us for a retirement pay-off.
Wasn't JP 28 when he moved to Leeds? He's done pretty well! Even if his best years were still at the Bulls.
I don't think he's coming just for the ££ or the 3 year deal. If he does come, it could be a combination of :
a) him being peeved that an Aussie (yes, I know, a very good one) has taken his place, even after all these years of loyal service
b) the rumours about it not being rosey behind the scenes at headingley are true
c) he has faith in Potter and the Bulls revolution!
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Apparently, he's had his best years now and he's coming to us for a retirement pay-off.
Wasn't JP 28 when he moved to Leeds? He's done pretty well! Even if his best years were still at the Bulls.
I don't think he's coming just for the ££ or the 3 year deal. If he does come, it could be a combination of :
a) him being peeved that an Aussie (yes, I know, a very good one) has taken his place, even after all these years of loyal service
b) the rumours about it not being rosey behind the scenes at headingley are true
c) he has faith in Potter and the Bulls revolution!'"
I realised what a complete muppet you are after what you posted about McGuire! this just shows how bitter and deluded you really are. the 13 and 0 has made you shoot through.
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| The guy who likes to throw about insults is back!
Insults aside, you must have something to contribute to a thread about a loyal Leeds servant? Or do you use these forums to judge people rather than talk rugby league?
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| Sounds like a massive fall out.
Cummins who has spent his whole career at Leeds is shown the door (no matter what anyone says) and makes negative comments about McClennan and then despite Buderus' frankly awful performances at the end of the season, particularly in the CC final, Diskin leaves despite having signed a new contract.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I realised what a complete muppet you are after what you posted about McGuire! this just shows how bitter and deluded you really are. the 13 and 0 has made you shoot through.'"
Blokes have got over catching their missus playing away quicker than you're letting this go.
In the absence of a friend to pull you to one side here's how it is, this thing you've got with 'Danny Mags' is unrequited and maybe you need to start obsessing about men you've got a chance with.
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| [url=http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/4990/DISKIN%20IN%20BULLS%20SWITCHConfirmed by the club[/url
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| Quote ="Maislebugs"Sounds like a massive fall out.
Cummins who has spent his whole career at Leeds is shown the door (no matter what anyone says) and makes negative comments about McClennan and then despite Buderus' frankly awful performances at the end of the season, particularly in the CC final, Diskin leaves despite having signed a new contract.'"
sounds like your making stuff up! Any proof of these words? Leeds don't win a trophy so there must be infighting! Or a more realistic appraisal, Leeds wernt good enough with the available players they had.
it's not such a big shock about disco when you think your assistant coach is his brother in law. Seems like jobs for the boys to me. 3 years over 1 year at 29 a no brainer to me
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"sounds like your making stuff up! Any proof of these words? Leeds don't win a trophy so there must be infighting! Or a more realistic appraisal, Leeds wernt good enough with the available players they had.
it's not such a big shock about disco when you think your assistant coach is his brother in law. Seems like jobs for the boys to me. 3 years over 1 year at 29 a no brainer to me'"
Just like when Peacock moved to Leeds at a similar age then?
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