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| Quote ="Buck Tarbrush"Is this the same Worrincy that some posters were waxing so lyrically about last season ? The WORRLORD I seem to remember
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That was because of his tries against Leeds and Saints. Watch them, his lines are awesome there. We always kne his defence was gash, but he sort of made up for it with his lines. Now he's not offering anything going forward either.
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| Last week he played ok but still missed tackles. This week he's missed more, this isn't super league standard. Whitehead and Donaldson are playing a mans game and they've not matured yet they are going to get better. Not sure this guy will, give his place to someone else....
who can kick?
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| Quote ="ex Bull Dog"
who can kick?'"
Sykes, Orford, Donaldson are good kickers. I'd say Sykes was the best out of those 3 though.
IIRC Wagga used to kick at Castleford and Menzies has kicked 1 goal in his career .
If Hyde or Addy break into the squad we'll be set.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"
IIRC Wagga used to kick at Castleford'"
You do remember correctly.
He kicked 59 goals for Cas in the 2004 season. Took over from Wayne Bartrim who was their previous regular kicker.
Edit: His league goal kicking was 56 from 76. Which is a 74% success rate.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"You do remember correctly.
He kicked 59 goals for Cas in the 2004 season. Took over from Wayne Bartrim who was their previous regular kicker.
No idea how many he missed though.'"
Doubt he'd stick his hand up when he only kicked for half a season 6 years ago. Plus he's only playing about 30 a match.
I would hand it to Sykes for the rest of the season tbh, let him get used to it again, tell him to get a bit of practice in and we'll be ok.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Doubt he'd stick his hand up when he only kicked for half a season 6 years ago. Plus he's only playing about 30 a match.
I would hand it to Sykes for the rest of the season tbh, let him get used to it again, tell him to get a bit of practice in and we'll be ok.'"
He kicked for the full season, but it was the year Cas got relegated, so he didn't kick many because of that. Bartrim was the regular kicker the year before, but left after 2003.
He had a 74% ratio, compared to Orford's 73% this year. But both of those are rounded to the point where it's almost exactly the same figure.
Sykes has 0% this year, but that's because he's got 0 from 3.
To be honest, for that kicking ratio, it's not worth having someone who's out of practice for 6 years, as you mentioned.
Personally, I've always found Sykes' kicking to be inconsistent. He can very good sometimes and very poor at others. I'd stick with Ox.
(I appreciate this belongs on the other thread, but there's been a kind of crossover! I'll move to the other thread for goal kicking discussion)
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"He kicked for the full season, but it was the year Cas got relegated, so he didn't kick many because of that. Bartrim was the regular kicker the year before, but left after 2003.
He had a 74% ratio, compared to Orford's 73% this year. But both of those are rounded to the point where it's almost exactly the same figure.
Sykes has 0% this year, but that's because he's got 0 from 3.
To be honest, for that kicking ratio, it's not worth having someone who's out of practice for 6 years, as you mentioned.
Personally, I've always found Sykes' kicking to be inconsistent. He can very good sometimes and very poor at others. I'd stick with Ox.
(I appreciate this belongs on the other thread, but there's been a kind of crossover!)'"
They all seem to be similar really: Good, but no Deacon, but then who is?
I don't think it's a huge worry tbh, a few easy ones have been missed but I think the majority of the ones missed have been closer to the touchline than the sticks.
Where did you get the stats? What was Sykes kicking ratio for any season at Quins?
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"(Taken to other thread)
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| Well, I came here to take out my frustrations on Worrincy after his 'performance' last evening, but its all been said by others.
It's a shame really, because he seems like he has all the attributes - a big powerful lad, who has a great turn of pace. You could see him as a Sonny Nickle type - but whereas Nickle always seemed to have a big of devil about him, Worrincy is a pussycat.
It's hard to say that someone who, presumably, none of actually knows 'can't be bothered' or is 'lazy, but it sure looks that way to those of us observing. Like others have said, he's going to get targetted by other coaches if he plays in future weeks - and you'd expect that to be the case.
Frankly, he could with a spell on loan at Dewsbury or Halifax to rebuild his career. But I fear that Macca has decided that he's worth persisting with and will play him anyway.
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| Don't know if its significant to this post but Sam Burgess has told George to seize the day on twitter!
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| Quote ="ex Bull Dog"Don't know if its significant to this post but Sam Burgess has told George to seize the day on twitter!'"
Hope he listens to Big Sam and trains hard all week, then gets selected against Hull!
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| They should give the burgess twins a game got to be miles better
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| Quote ="cameobullslady"They should give the burgess twins a game got to be miles better
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But play in a different position.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"But play in a different position.'"
That doesn't really matter. I would be happy going to Hull with 2 props rather than 2 2nd rowers on the bench.
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| Quote ="Highlander"That doesn't really matter. I would be happy going to Hull with 2 props rather than 2 2nd rowers on the bench.'"
If Langley is back, we will have Hall playing as a prop & Kopzcak on the bench.
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| Quote ="cameobullslady"They should give the burgess twins a game got to be miles better
than worrincey.'"
But which Twin would you play first...............?
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| Quote ="Bit_of_bully"But which Twin would you play first...............?'"
George will no doubt get in before Tom.
I still think it's a bit soon to be playing them though (although a choice between anyone and Worrincy would pick the "anyone" option).
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"George will no doubt get in before Tom.
I still think it's a bit soon to be playing them though '"
I doubt either will feature in many games this season, they appear to still be quite far down the pecking order. It would take probably 2 of our props to get injured before they are looked at...........
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| I would go for george. or are we getting them fit for aussie to be with
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| Quote ="cameobullslady"I would go for george. or are we getting them fit for aussie to be with
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They're 17 and are on 3 year contracts IIRC. They will get their chance, but its more likely to be next season than this.
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| I cannot see them playing this year. It would be unfair on them to throw them in against seasoned professionals. They need to develop at their own pace.
looking at the stats in the league express, Worrincy missed 3 tackles and we know what happened there! I was more intrested to see how many carries he had made, the wife pointed out he was moving away from the ball on many occasions. The answer was one carry - pathetic for the amount of time he was on the pitch.
Donaldson and Whitehead should be in front of him all the way now. Donaldson was going crazy after the "third" missed tackle try. Must be a bit of a bummer knowing this man is keeping you out of the team week in week out.
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| Quote ="bully boy"I cannot see them playing this year. It would be unfair on them to throw them in against seasoned professionals. They need to develop at their own pace.
looking at the stats in the league express, Worrincy missed 3 tackles and we know what happened there! I was more intrested to see how many carries he had made, the wife pointed out he was moving away from the ball on many occasions. The answer was one carry - pathetic for the amount of time he was on the pitch.
Donaldson and Whitehead should be in front of him all the way now. Donaldson was going crazy after the "third" missed tackle try. Must be a bit of a bummer knowing this man is keeping you out of the team week in week out.'"
It seems he's rapidly playing himself out of the team. (Let's hope he already has)
With the wealth of young backrowers we also have, it wouldn't surprise me that he's either been told or has guessed he won't be getting a new deal next year.
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