A good performance, less silly errors, get over the tryline a few times and if we lose, not by a deficit of 20 or more.

A win would be nice.

Running them fairly close <10 points. No queues on the M62. And the car not on bricks. That would make for a more positive evening.

Looking like we're up for it would be a good start. If we go into the game thinking we're beaten we'll get thrashed.

A positive outcome would be a performance where we put Saints under some pressure, avoid any howlers and come away with some dignity. A decent defensive display would be very welcome. If we can do it there we can do it anywhere.

As for the chances of us doing any of this, who knows?

A performance of anything approaching competence and keeping Saints under 40.

Sounds like most on here have pretty low expectations of the match.
That's quite sad.

Think I am correct in saying that Saints haven't conceded more than 22 points in a game so far this season, somehow I can't see Bradford beating that.

Are Saints going to struggle to get less than 22 at home to Bradford ? I really doubt it, Saints by 30 for me.

Yeah but thats assuming you will all be fit because Terry Monster is going to bash up all your best players again in veageance for last years game when you cheated a win through false penalties. Without Graham and Gidley and Pryce Saints will win no silverware

BULLS BY 8

That's the spirit.

Vodka?

That could be the catalyst for Celtic's season. I would expect you will be the only team they will beat this season

The betting odds have now started to come out, and I have laid some money down on Betfair though similar odds are availablewith totesport, who have the Bulls at 12/1 to win.

As some will know, I go to every game thinking we are going to win, but however optimistic or pessimistic you may be, you can't argue that there will only be 17 players from each team coming out of the tunnel. And in my experience, odds of 12/1 in a 2 horse race are rather generous for a team that just beat Leeds.

As is Stan James' offer of Even money with 24 points start.

Is it any good for a team that just lost to Wakefield and were humiliated at home by lowly Warrington?

They are good odds, what about the odds for a Leon hat trick/MOM etc? Because its set up for him to have a stormer clearly.

It would be criminal if he did

we should lock you up and throw away the key for jokes like that.

I think you missed the point. It is good odds to be 12/1 in a TWO HORSE RACE.

A two horse race is a phrase coined to mean any event, (not restricted to horses) where there are only two competitors, and on the day, a win by one or other cannot be ruled out. [size=75(To save your inevitable funny, no, whatever you say, a win by the Bulls cannot be ruled out, any more than a win against Leeds could have been ruled out. Or for that matter a win by Catalans when losing 26-nil with half an hour to go).[/size

The whole point is that the previous form of either competitor is of absolutely no significance whatso-bleedin-ever, as the times when the big outsider wins are not, by definition, predictable.

You only need to know that with reasonable regularity, the outsider does win.

I'm going 2moro night for some silly reason. Still not been to a game they have won yet.

FA, FWIW, your post clearly implied that it would be good to bet on the Bulls cause they JUST beat Leeds. ME was just point out that since JUST beating Leeds they got beat by Wakefield and hammered at home. Makes the bet less of a good deal.

I still don't feel that odds on a rugby game, match that of a two horse race.

Never mind.

P.s. I won't be d arguing this little point any further.

Well worth £10, then i can't loose

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I don't agree with much Steveo has to say, but on this one he's got a very big, uncomfortable point.

Do you think he can find some relief through surgery?

Well the proctologist doesn't seem to be able to help him with the blockage caused by his head

That's a new word for me! Brilliant...like it!

It is ok. FA (Feigning Alzheimers) has a habit of forgetting the bigger picture and instead picks out the one point that suits his argument.

I know the point that he is making, and, if it was on the back of a good win v Leeds and a run of decent form it would be very good odds indeed. However, it is not. It is two weeks after a win against an out of sorts Leeds side (who were thumped at home by Salford three days later) and it follows a defeat to Wakefield and a humiliation against a side who were, until last week, worse than we were.

12/1 would be good odds if the horses were of similar stature. However, not so much if the two horses included one impressive thoroughbred and one Blackpool donkey.