Im going to the Hull derby before our game Friday to drink with friends.

Ian Smith will see to it that I start being loud

Where did I say that the team should be booed then?

I clearly said that the coach would be rightly booed.

Still, maybe people who cannot read very well should refrain from calling anyone an idiot.

Top post. I shall be doing just that for 80 min on Fri. And no matter what my own views on the coach (Which are changing week to week - dont think Im either PT or NT at the mo) I wont be booing on Fri during the game as I fail to see how it helps Bradford beat Leeds.

COME ON YOU BULLS!

Booing the coach? During the match?

That's really going to motivate the team, and sound really good on TV.

Well, I guess if you think you are the perfect man, doing your pious duty to lead those who have strayed from the true path back into the darkness of melancholia that you revel in, that would make a load of sense.

But to true supporters, I suggest it just looks like proving you are an utter and complete pillock.

Your GPS guided smart boos will impact directly on the coach? They won't be gravity guided dumb boos with collateral damage on the team on the field?

Open season on idiots.

Like it takes Ian Smith!

I bet even if Mother Theresa was ref Mick would still have a benny attack over the refereeing...?

For Sure!!

So for argument's sake we are throwing away another second half lead like we have done the last 2 weeks I'm expected to back them AM I.

I think it's reasonable to assume that fans would. How we expect each other to behave in any given situation is a different matter.

I do think it's reasonable to expect people to know the difference between what's counterproductive and what's not though.

I have a definition for paying money to be counterproductive.

Calm down chief, the game hasn't taken place yet.

I think the issue is not to start with any preconceptions? You start on the basis that something like that is not going to happen, so you cheer the team out and on, and you don't start booing without reason.

I think though that even the most devoted club sycophant would understand the probable fans' reaction if we saw another collapsathon after building up a big lead?

The other thing is that the team's confidence must be pretty bloody fragile right now. Their heads will surely be screwed up with worry about it all happening again - and that could become a self-fulfilling prophecy especially if fans start getting on their backs at the first sign of trouble.

It seems to me the team will have far more chance of winning if the fans get behind them and try to boost their confidence. But maybe I'm just being simplistic and naive?

I was just proposing a hypothetical situation.

Yeah I know but lets hang on to our imaginary scenarios as long as possible. When they throw away the lead for the [ithird[/i time on the trot, that's when you can get carried away!

I'd never boo with out reason. I enquired about "the situation" as the impression i got from the original post is to back them no matter whats happening.

I think your sig sums up the circumstances when it would probably be all bets off.

But its not going to happen. There will be no third collapsathon. We HAVE to go into the game believing that. The team have to believe in themselves, and to help them with that we have to believe in them and not immediately pounce on any mistakes with "here we go..."

And I'd say get off Platt's back. Making him the scapegoat is a frigging disgrace. Another self-fulfilling prophecy: wreck the guy's confidence and then complain at his performance. (hard I know when he does a brain fart...)

But lets try and catch them doing things right for a change? It might even make a difference.

Sorry but I'm now in the mode that they have to make me start believing in them again.

I know. Tell me about it



But if we stop believing, how can we expect them to believe in themselves?

It's not my job they have got themselves in to the mess it's now time they get themselves out of it.

Maybe so. But do we need to make it any harder for them than it already is? In one of the hardest games of the year?

Whatever your opinions are of me are fair enough as you are entitled to your own opinion but the fact remains that I am pretty sure our good friends at Sky will zoom in on the coach at any given opportunity this weekend and, if we are losing heavily, when his face is projected onto the big screen, I am pretty sure that there will be howls of derision and a certain amount of booing.

Whether that is right or wrong is a matter for the individual.

Oh FFS! They are big men - they can take it.

Sportsmen in all fields are quick to milk the applause and adulation when things are going well for them. Therefore they should be able to take any flak that is also forthcoming.

I may also add that if the players continually come out saying in the media that it is them to blame and to lay off the coach, then they would be bringing any criticism somewhat on themselves.

Silverthon on Monday and then Ganson on Friday