|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 4009 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| THis bit beggars belief
Leeds Rhinos centre Keith Senior escaped suspension but was fined £300 after being found guilty of kicking out at Joel Tomkins in the 43rd minute of last Saturday’s game against Wigan Warriors.
I cut and pasted the wrong paragraph earlier!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 442 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2017 | Jan 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="bulls2010"ive noticed senior escaped a ban. what is it with the whinos always escaping bans but all the other clubs get bans.
hope bulls go against it like said on bulls site and win'"
Because Gary Hetherington and the Leeds Rhinos are up RFL's ar5e
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 14145 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2020 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| [conspiracy theory/Gledhill mode They only did Coley so they could also do Sykes and screw Bulls[/conspiracy theory/Gledhill mode
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9554 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="bulls2010"ive noticed senior escaped a ban. what is it with the whinos always escaping bans but all the other clubs get bans.
hope bulls go against it like said on bulls site and win'"
and thats after being found guilty as well
was fairly certain sykes would get a match and doubt we'll get anywhere in appeal but tbf it did probably deserve a ban. hopefully kearney fit this week if not addy/menzies at SO or do we throw southernwood in as most people say SO is his best position. Interesting decision for macca.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 300 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2012 | Feb 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9986 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2019 | Aug 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Blotto"THis bit beggars belief
Wigan Warriors’ Andy Coley has been found guilty of a Grade A dangerous throw on Brett Delaney in his side’s Carnegie Challenge Cup quarter-final against Leeds Rhinos and has been suspended for one match.
'"
How do they wangle that? Can we not ask for Sykes' to be suspended to give Kearney another week to be fit?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 12310 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2023 | Feb 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| He hasn't got a bad past record. If we get the same type of "leniancy" that Leeds get then we'll be fine.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9554 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"He hasn't got a bad past record. If we get the same type of "leniancy" that Leeds get then we'll be fine.'"
problem is he got a caution for a similar offence earlier in year so cant see RFL overturning ban tbh. Still its a chance for one of our younger players to impress.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 12310 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2023 | Feb 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="mat"problem is he got a caution for a similar offence earlier in year so cant see RFL overturning ban tbh. Still its a chance for one of our younger players to impress.'"
Southernwood won't get played, it will be Menzies or Addy. Unless Kearney is back, but imo we need some more speed and class put into our back 3.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9554 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Southernwood won't get played, it will be Menzies or Addy. Unless Kearney is back, but imo we need some more speed and class put into our back 3.'"
I'd guess at Addy personally. If kearney is fit then I expect halley to go back to the wing and kearney to slot back in at FB with platt returning to . we get players back in the positions they've been playing so far this season and only have one player to integrate then rather than having 2 or 3 playing unfamiliar positions.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 7111 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="mat"I'd guess at Addy personally. If kearney is fit then I expect halley to go back to the wing and kearney to slot back in at FB with platt returning to centres. we get players back in the positions they've been playing so far this season and only have one player to integrate then rather than having 2 or 3 playing unfamiliar positions.'"
With Donaldson out I can't see Menzies doing anything other than moving back to the back row and if Crookes and Reardon are still injured that would mean Kearney (if fit) back to 1 unless he gives Wardle a go but I reckon he's most likely to go with Addy starting before starting Wardle. I still think if Orford has made progress and can link up with L'estrange / Godwin we've enough to win the match. If Kearney isn't fit then it's an even bigger problem.
Reading Crabtree's comments in the back of the Huddersfield Examiner tonight he's really bitter about not getting picked for England and is banging on about proving Macca wrong. If Scrutes can get him with a big hit early on it would do wonders for our chances of winning the match.
Going to be a real test this week I think but one that we can win and if we did it would do wonders for our season. It is now the most important match of the season.
On the ban issue speaking about Sykes' I think it's fair to be honest it was dangerous play and looked quite bad. As for Senior's i think the fact the match official stated that it was unintentional allowing him to stay on the field awarding a penalty to Wigan meant that he wasn't in any danger of a ban. ATEOTD it's up the match official to police the game in the first instance as he sees fit and the Match Review panel to pick up anything that was missed. I'm surprised they went this far and didn't state that it had already been dealt with.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 28357 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Sykes got what he deserved, no more, no less. Can't see the point of an appeal.
The Senior decision however is ridiculous. What was "unintentional"? Do his legs often wildly flail about in huge arcing kicks involuntarily? Was he having a fit? The kick was in fact 100% intentional. Obviously he didn't "intend" to land the kick on the head - but that's only because he lashed out recklessly, not giving a flying fook what or who was in the way, and knowing full well there were certainly defenders in close attendance.
A fine if he had luckily just kicked fresh air. However as he made contact with a player's head, it had to be a ban.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 14145 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2020 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Not when you clearly must know where the bodies are buried...
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 17152 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Rubbish. 2 other players were on Senior's top half, 1 (O'brotherinlaw?) was laid across his head, so he had no idea where Tomkins was. It's a completely normal action to kick your legs out to try & dislodge players from your top half. I have played in games where it has happened, more than once, & a penalty not given. Sykes was a horrendous tackle, if it had been intentional he could have been looking at 6 matches. As could Senior.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9986 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2019 | Aug 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| How can you tell if it was intentional or not? Sure perhaps he didn't intend to knock someone out by kicking them in the face, but he definately intended to kick his legs about in the air at face height. What did he imagine was going to happen?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 7411 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="tigertot"Rubbish. 2 other players were on Senior's top half, 1 (O'brotherinlaw?) was laid across his head, so he had no idea where Tomkins was. It's a completely normal action to kick your legs out to try & dislodge players from your top half. I have played in games where it has happened, more than once, & a penalty not given. Sykes was a horrendous tackle, if it had been intentional he could have been looking at 6 matches. As could Senior.'"
Indeed.
It doesn't surprise me that it only took a few posts before the anti-Leeds hysteria set in, despite the thread being about Sykes.
Did I imagine Brent Webb getting a ban a few weeks ago and failing in his appeal? Apparently so.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 17152 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="debaser"How can you tell if it was intentional or not? Sure perhaps he didn't intend to knock someone out by kicking them in the face, but he definately intended to kick his legs about in the air at face height. What did he imagine was going to happen?'"
Face height being 3 feet off the ground in this case, just where you would expect it.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9986 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2019 | Aug 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="tigertot"Face height being 3 feet off the ground in this case, just where you would expect it.'"
So what was he trying to do? Having your feet 3 feet off the ground helps you to get up does it?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 10969 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2023 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Indeed.
It doesn't surprise me that it only took a few posts before the anti-Leeds hysteria set in, despite the thread being about Sykes.
Did I imagine Brent Webb getting a ban a few weeks ago and failing in his appeal? Apparently so.'"
Webb has a long history of wild head shots (often completely missed by the officials) so it's hardly a shock that it eventually caught up with him. Leaving aside the kicking out, when Senior starts getting pinged for his regular obstruction occasionally then I'll start believing there is a god.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 10969 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2023 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="tigertot"Face height being 3 feet off the ground in this case, just where you would expect it.'"
There might (or might not) be many faces at around 3 feet from the ground but I can think of other, rather painful areas, I wouldn't want to get kicked in, particularly be a great big lummox like Senior.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 10969 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2023 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="Bulliac"There might (or might not) be many faces at around 3 feet from the ground but I can think of other, rather painful areas, I wouldn't want to get kicked in, particularly by a great big lummox like Senior.
'"
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 28357 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Let's get one thing straight. Senior wasn't "doing what we all do", he commited an offence by kicking out in the manner he did, and has been up before the beak and fined. The debate is only whether or not he should have been banned too.
It is therefore tigertot who is talking "rubbish" to bizarrely claim "It's a completely normal action". AFAIK you don't get called up to the disciplinary and fined for "normal action". I know what tigers is referring to, but it sure as hell doesn't involve a wild, arcing kick in the air, reckless as to whether it lands on an adjacent player or not.
And what's "three feet" got to do with it? Don't you notice that sometimes not every player on the field is actually standing straight up? E.g. in the ruck? Plus, what if it had been Burrow? (Sorry take that back, would've missed).
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 459 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2017 | Jul 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| if all the insidents were grade A offences then everyone of the players should have recieved a 1 match ban
some one said earlier leeds and hetherington are too far up the RFLs ar5e that they have only given him a fine
he did kick out and it wasnt a little kick either....full on dirty begger
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 8114 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Sykes threw someone by the head and has rightly been banned. I can't be bothered ranting about what happened to players at other clubs.
Our task on Sunday has got that bit harder, that's for sure.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 17152 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Let's get one thing straight. Senior wasn't "doing what we all do",'"
True. he wasn't stood over the players tunnel, plastic pint in hand, wearing RAB glasses, screaming insults at the officials.
Quote he commited an offence by kicking out in the manner he did, '"
No he didn't. The offence was kicking Tomkins in the head. It would have been the same if Tomkins had been chewing grass at the time.
Quote The debate is only whether or not he should have been banned too. '"
He shouldn't, for the reasons stated.
Quote It is therefore tigertot who is talking "rubbish" to bizarrely claim "It's a completely normal action". '"
Kicking your legs out to get defenders off your upper body is a normal action to try & speed up the play the ball or con the official that the defenders are holding down.
|
|
|
|
|