I wonder if the Club realises that another perception from some of the Fans still loyal and attending is that the Club is taking advantage of them with their pricing of the concession (beer prices)!

Unfortunatly Yorkshire folk are not stupid and I would suggest if they want to make more money from the loyal fans, putting the prices down would be more beneficial.

One of the questions I sent in asked about this, suspect I'm not the only one!

Another tight Yorkshireman?

It might be a bit pedantic but I honestly it's just basic business sense as taught at school. High turnover and small profit equals a good profit. Well it should! Nobody likes to feel they are being ripped off or taken advantage of. Here's a thought buy 2 get 1 free, they sell some beer with that one....

Brian Noble pointed out one of Yorkshire folks' favourite sayings last night on the RL coverage.



I know it's a slight mickey take on our tightness, but when you're being asked to pay that much for a pint of crap lager, it's kind of accurate.

It's also self defeating, especially in Yorkshire. Prices go up and sales go down. Put prices up more to counter drop in sales and sales go down. People either bring their own or drink before and after the match. It's not rocket science.

Nail on the head

Unfortunately, there are seemingly not enough of the "hardcore" fans to pay the bills. Hence the Catch-22.

But don't you think that times have very greatly changed, in that nowadays there is so much stuff going off all over the place, that the number of young fans who might potentially become "diehards" is far smaller than in the past? As with most things, it is a gradual falling off, but I just think that across the board, the average speccy is significantly less "committed" to the team than even 20 years ago, and many fewer have that real attachment that would make them attend come hell or high water - they just choose to watch something on Sky or go on Facebook or whatever, and would look at you pityingly if you asked why they weren't going to the match. "Duh?!"

Probably won't be answered, but on top of the 5 obvious (ish) questions I have sent in, i've now sent one in regarding Glenn Hall's fitness. He's a professional player yet he can't even manage 20 minutes on the pitch.

Best thing to do so email your questions. If they don't ask them for you, wait for the questions from the floor section and ask them then.

That should go for everyone on here. If you want an answer, and I want answers from the club, make sure your voice is heard and make sure your question is asked.

Your voice has been heard, I gave a copy of that post of yours (along with some others') off another thread to the Marketing Director and CEO earlier today. They were interested and took away with them. We had a good chat about fans' perceptions,

That's surprising.

I'd just assumed he'd disappeared off the face of the earth.

You learn a lot by talking to people, to be honest.

I am totally interested to see what they have got to say this time. The board, and their inability to spot a decent coach have made us a complete and utter embarrassment. Will they accept responsibility? No I doubt it. They will bury their heads in the sand and find someone else to blame as usual.

It is a joke scenario.

In fact - we have now hit a new low. What "positive spin" are they gonna put on it this time?

The club is run by a bunch of inept amateurs, regardless of what those "in the know" try to suggest.

Whoops - double post.

Re: the Fans Forum

I'm thinking of going - do you need a ticket or do you just show up? Also I cannot arrive before at least 7.45 pm due to work commitments. It starts at 7.30 pm. Does it last long enough to be worth coming a bit late?

After today, I think I would like to hear what is said at the forum

Which post?

As long as you don't come in with a fan fare, i wouldn't worry. It's free in and usually lasts about 90 minutes to 2 hours. ish.

And there's no way it will "start" at 730 - never does

that's true

My questions:

1. How does the Board grade our performance for the 2010 Season? End of year report based on what was said at the Fans forum earlier this year regarding expectations (Top 4, Play-offs and Challenge Cup).

2. How are the Board going to convince me to part with my hard earned cash to buy a season ticket for 2011, when it is competing with Xmas, a week in Spain or I'll save it for a rainy day?

3. Why are the LOYAL Fans who still pay good money to watch the Team being taken advantage of with the beer and concession prices? Yorkshire folk don't like to be taken advantage of and it almost always has a negative effect with fewer sales anyway. Give us an incentive with a card and stamps, buy 5 get 1 free or something, this would generate more sales!

Perhaps could have phrased them better but there you go.

That looks a good idea.

Three of us had a meeting with the club today. Amongst lots of other things, on the subject of the Fans' Forum they said they could not reasonably be expected to answer "questions" that are phrased like statements, or which are rhetorical and effectively contain the answer or that are worded as attacks more than questions.

Nor, to be fair, would anyone, I suggest?

Means people may hear their question, but perhaps worded a bit differently, I suspect?

I know I've said this already on this thread, but I'm only trying to help us fans get a proper hearing! It would be pretty crap if someone's important question ended up not being used only because it was worded in a way that the club could say made it impracticable to use?

We had a chat about the beer prices, btw!

Can't imagine why that question seems on so many people's lists...but I'm sure it will be one that IS addressed at the forum!

Another thing they said is that they really would like as many people there as possible, and urge as many people as can come to please do so. They say they hear the charge of not being open enough with the fans and, whether or not the club think that's fair, the more people who are there to hear from them the better people will be able to judge. Seems a fair comment to me?

I'll hopefully be in attendance on Wednesday and I hope I come away feeling like we do have some good plans for next season.

I do worry that the club will print out the 'letter from a player' season ticket renewal flyer or similar and that'll be about it. I really do hope I am wrong but at the moment I cannot see many people committing to a full season card. I thought last year was about as bad as it would get, how wrong was I?

Unless we have an ace or two up our sleeve it is difficult to see anything other than a reduction in season ticket sales. Where will the further cut backs be made to balance the books?