Ewwenerfolk: I've thought of trying to do something for charity. Sponsored walk to red hall and back or something Fancy bouncing some ideas about?

can i just say that i come here in peace and am in no way enjoying the predicament that your great club is in at the moment,i sincerely hope that there is a way back for you as sl would be a worse place without you I have often been accused of being nothing more than a troll on here due to my negative posts,but i was merely trying to convey the information that i was told in confidence to you in order that you could seek the relevant answers at your fans forum evenings I have just posted this on southstander viewtopic.php?f=17&t=523095&p=16797027#p16797027 the hints and clues were clearly there but you all just ignored them?

can i just say that i come here in peace and am in no way enjoying the predicament that your great club is in at the moment,i sincerely hope that there is a way back for you as sl would be a worse place without you I have often been accused of being nothing more than a troll on here due to my negative posts,but i was merely trying to convey the information that i was told in confidence to you in order that you could seek the relevant answers at your fans forum evenings I have just posted this on southstander viewtopic.php?f=17&t=523095&p=16797027#p16797027 the hints and clues were clearly there but you all just ignored them?

If its true about Stu Fielden and JP then thats fantastic. It's great that our ex-players are giving back to the club.

I wonder if Stu would come back WHEN FIT (Wigan dont really need him).

Very difficult to have any more faith in Hood. Each time money has come into the club (selling players and the lease on the ground) Hood has come out with statements saying that we didn't really need the money. He even said that the reason the lease was sold to the RFL was to stop so called predators. If everyone who pledged to buy a season ticket had been asked to pay a realistic amount, then things might have turned out differently. Unfortunately, those who questioned the financial viability of selling season tickets at such prices have been proved correct.

As an employment solicitor I deal with a lot of insolvencies. This is my 2p worth.

The reason for the crisis: most business sail close to the wind on cash flow. The main oil to the wheels is the overdraft. Banks can pull the overdraft at any time. In the current climate they do so with regularity. If you're operating with a big OD to have it pulled will kill the business very quickly.

Without the overdraft the business will need a loan v. quickly. Banks aren't making business loans at the moment, particularly to businesses without assets.

Bradford will be relying on credit from suppliers. Once they get wind that the club is in trouble, they will want paying and pull credit. This is perhaps why the club was hesitant to reveal the true financial picture. That or the OD being pulled with a couple of weeks notice.

The business could go into admin, such as a pre pack to restart under a different company, but the vide I've been getting from the current board is that they've been waiting for someone to come along to take he club off their hands for years.

It's all well and good saying sack the board, but realistically who's going to take the club forward. There may be people waiting in the wings to buy the club out of administration. We won't know that until the club goes under am insolvency practitioner.

If I had the money, I certainly would buy the club now with the baggage of £1m of debts. I'd buy the assets in admin debt free including free of any wages owed.

Which is a shame because he is usually spot on. Does not really say much for you.

At the end of the day, as a supporter of a club thats had more than its fair share of 'last dawns', if you come out of this with the club in one piece, just without the players, then its all worthwhile. You can get new players, you can get new staff, you can get a new board, but once the club as an entity goes, you're buggered. There are enough people who care about rugby in Bradford to keep it going, and thats all that matters at the moment.

What assets? Elliot Whitehead in the car boot?

If we timed it right, could do it on the day of the Leeds game. Pick out some fundraising spots on the way there (Asda Thornbury, Odeon etc) then make it back to fundraise at Odsal until kick off time?

Surely Bradford have £2m at least guaranteed for the next two years in Sky payments from the RFL. If this is a simply cash flow issue why not simply borrow against that?

It seems very odd that a short-term cash flow problem has resulted in the club not needing a loan but a cash injection of £1m. And £1m seems a surprisingly large overdraft for a company only turning over £3-4m.

Ive pledged. I could not bare my club going under. The late great Trevor Foster would be turning in his grave. Lets not let his efforts go to waste.

The club have given me as much reassurance as they possibly can. If i pledge and we don't make the target i lose nothing, if we do make the target, my pledge has come in use. They have also stated we will be DEBT FREE.

Going into administration has to be the last resort. Do this and we lose Bateman, Whitehead, Crookes, Kearney, L'estrange, for next to nothing, even then they is no guarantee we would survive as we would need a buyer!!!

If you don't make the Leeds game all ticket, then have donation boxes to help the club. yes it is humiliaiting but will we care if we're still playing.

COYB!!!!!

ive pledged,£100 is not too much to pay when i think of all the entertainment they have given me and my family over the last 40 years or so and yes i include the heartache of last few years as well.i would rather stump up a few quid to keep watching top level rugby league in bradford than lose it.although i will struggle to pay it i feel i have to for the club to carry on.
COYB

If anybody else would be willing to do it, how about a run (at your own pace) instead of a walk with a couple of cars going along playing RUN WITH THE BULLS as loud as possible. Either Red Hall or another destination. In Bulls full kit, dress the cars up with flags and banners.

Not sure how many fans are on RL forums but if everyone pledged a pound ? could it be a start; post it on every site ?

Really don't know what to say

It seems amazing to me that anyone is prepared to gift cash to a failed management team unless it were to be done as a new share issue - then all those helping in the bail-out would have a real stake in the club and a mechanism to hold the directors to account.
Don't do it that way and all you've done is reward incompetence - and that never works!
Desperate situation for such a high profile club, I do sympathise with all you Bulls fans

i think it is more important to keep the club going just now.if they manage to survive then im sure it will be dealt with by those with the power to do such things,or the money, but at the moment im prepared to risk £100 to keep my club going.

I've pledged that's 400 quid from our house.

After listening to Radio Leeds I'm more confident that we'll do it and TBH I don't want this to be the end of the club.

The way I'm looking at it is that 175 (it was 75 quid this year wasn't it?) for a season ticket is better than spending 75 quid on a useless plastic card.

The way i feel now i would pay £100 to help us survive if it was guaranteed, which is basically what the pledge is!

£100 promise to give us a chance, a no brainer to me

Cannot believe the news that such a great club such as yours is in trouble.

You embraced superleague like no other, and was held up as the way forward.

Hope you sort it out and get back on track.

I thought long and hard before pledging today. Loathe as I am to give £200 to the fools who seem to be intent on running our great club into the ground, ultimately this is what made me do it:
1. The thought of no more Bulls. That just can't happen.
2. The almost overwhelming support of other club's fans. If they are supporting us, then how can we not do everythin in out power to keep ourselves going.
3. The almost unimaginable thought of our greatest talent playing in another team's shirt. That would be hard to stomach.
4. Even with this pledge, it is still only the price of a season ticket.
5. It's the Bulls. It's Bradford's club. It's our club. We can't let them die. We can't.

It's not the time to rant and rave. It's not the time to sack the board. Right now we need to secure the club's future. Right now, we need to get through this. The fall-out will continue, but right now let's keep our beloved club alive to fight another day.
Come on you Bulls.

When we went into admin i never thought for one second that we would not exist so there is no reason to think the same. I am sure there are a few takers for the Bulls but only if you go into admin. The current board more than likely have been struggling for some time now but won't want to let go of Bulls unless there is something in it for them.

I can understand why people are hesitant to pledge, but you seriousley can't consider administration as a viable option??? If we don't have our licence revoked, we will have to endure a painful season of thrashing after thrashing, with a squad we barely recognise as we lose all the likes of Koppy, Bateman, Whitehead etc. Then at the end of the season, we reform as Bradford RLFC, playing in alien colours & plying our trade in championship 1, against the likes of Londan Skolars and Gateshead Thunder! (no disrespect)

But sure, we have a club with a clean sheet, a club run by the people for the people.... Rubbish!

Get behind our club.... surely it is worth saving! Yeah the BoD needs addressing, but if we fail to deliver now there will be nothing more to address!

I don't even want to contemplate losing the Bulls, this club means far too much to us to lose it! And I'm shocked at the amount of people who think administration is the best option!

NO BRAINER!

Spot on for me this.