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| I predict that under Toovey we'll show more fight and an organized game plan than we did for big chunks of 2016. Really want to see a mean defence, the main disappointment for me under Rohan was that with his background as a defensive coach in the NRL, ours didn't show any consistent signs of improvement
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"Bringing Beaver as his assistant?'"
There was a healthy discussion of Beaver v Tooves amongst Manly fans in the time leading up to Toovey getting the gig. The general consensus (as I recall, at least) was that everyone liked Beaver. And that therefore he was completely unsuitable. They wanted an ex-player (as they always do), but above all they wanted a 2@. And frankly, so do I.
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| How long till he starts making an impact then? 3-4 games?
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| For what its worth in my opinion one of the Best coaches in the NRL.Best of luck for next season.
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| Quote ="RickyF1"How long till he starts making an impact then? 3-4 games?'"
Maybe 6-10. He needs to look at the remaining players, find their best position. Evaluate attitudes especially after the 'honeymoon' period is over. Also needs to see what they are like against varying levels of opposition. Hopefully after this, press on. Should stay up though.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Maybe 6-10. He needs to look at the remaining players, find their best position. Evaluate attitudes especially after the 'honeymoon' period is over. Also needs to see what they are like against varying levels of opposition. Hopefully after this, press on. Should stay up though.'"
Fingers crossed we stay up. Hopefully we can start winning before 10 games. If not we are up the steam without a paddle.
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| Going by the new coaches passionate temperament. Someone could have a quiet word about the RFL fines.
Otherwise he might be paying the RFL back £50k all on his own.
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| Quote ="RickyF1"How long till he starts making an impact then? 3-4 games?'"
It's going to have to be quicker than that with a -12 start. Granted there will be a bedding in process but as I see it we have a friendly against kr on the 5th and then a relegation 4 pointer against Rochdale
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| Great appointment - Blackpool Hotels to sell out
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| Quote ="Bulls4"It's going to have to be quicker than that with a -12 start. Granted there will be a bedding in process but as I see it we have a friendly against kr on the 5th and then a relegation 4 pointer against Rochdale'"
Swiftly followed by relegation 4 pointers against Swinton
and Toulouse.
Realy wish those 3games were further diwn the line and we started off against HKR Fev and London. Going to be really hard to get things going for the 1st mornth or two and playing the teams we are realistically competeing against is far from ideal .
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| 2 of the best coaches in the country Sheens and Toovey ...in the Championship. Excellent.
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| Quote ="Johnbulls"Unlucky to lose his job at Manley where he seemed to be the victim of polictical infighting.Graham Lowe branded it a disgrace at the time and that players were willing to run through brick walls for him.'"
A sort of parallel. He like Mick Potter was a first class NRL Player, unlike Mick has got a good NRL cv as Coach , like Mick at West Tigers suffered a lot from political infighting by a dysfunctional board!
Part of his problem though is similar to Nobby he was too loyal to his older senior players which as a group a few should have been moved on, hence Manley not being the force they once were! (that was a problem inherited by Mick at Tigers from Tim Sheens tenure)
Is known to burst blood vessels at perceived and real poor decision making by the Officials and is not shy despite swinging fines at letting them know via the Media, so it will be of interest to see how he copes with the CL level of reffing (that said perhaps F A and the other RAB sponsors put their sponsorship money towards the Geoff Toovey swear box fund as I'm sure it will needed
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| As I see it, we've swapped one very good coach for another, but until we see who, if anyone, is being brought into the squad, we're still relegation fodder, imo.
It's still early days of course, the new guys have only just arrived and it will take some time to get people in, so I tend to go with Raging Bull; we could have done with these 'four pointers' further down the track. However they are where they are, so we'll need to get stuck in.
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| I am pleased we have early games against relegation fodder. We should be looking to get maximum points against these teams and begin to effectively click in time for the more competitive teams.
In addition we might have clearance for overseas signings by then in addition to quality super league loans.
We can afford to lose only 2/3 games in the campaign to give us a chance of qualifying for the play offs.
Aim for the top. Nothing is impossible.
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| Quote ="andycapp"I am pleased we have early games against relegation fodder. We should be looking to get maximum points against these teams and begin to effectively click in time for the more competitive teams.
In addition we might have clearance for overseas signings by then in addition to quality super league loans.
We can afford to lose only 2/3 games in the campaign to give us a chance of qualifying for the play offs.
Aim for the top. Nothing is impossible.'"
It makes no difference what we would like, to be fair - it is what it is, but I can't see any logic in [iactually wanting[/i to play our most important games when we are at our weakest. As you correctly point out, we should be hoping o to pick up maximum points in these games, as things are we are likely to pick up very few.
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| Quote ="andycapp"I am pleased we have early games against relegation fodder. We should be looking to get maximum points against these teams and begin to effectively click in time for the more competitive teams.
In addition we might have clearance for overseas signings by then in addition to quality super league loans.
We can afford to lose only 2/3 games in the campaign to give us a chance of qualifying for the play offs.
Aim for the top. Nothing is impossible.'"
As it stands the "relegation fodder" very much includes us and you can bet your bottom dollar those teams will be busting their balls in their own must win games. I think Sir Geoffrey of Tooveyshire is in for the mutha a of all shocks.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"I can't see any logic in [iactually wanting[/i to play our most important games when we are at our weakest. '"
I agree. If I had my way the first few fixtures would be hull KR, Hull KR, Hull KR, London,London.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"I agree. If I had my way the first few fixtures would be hull KR, Hull KR, Hull KR, London,London.'"
Great idea, lets just ask the RFL, I'm sure they could rearrange the season for us - we are their favourites after all
KR said they want to help us - so this would be a start
In fact, if we play all three KR games in the first weekend they might actually get that 10,000 crowd (in total)
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| Quote ="Smack him Jimmy"Great idea, lets just ask the RFL, I'm sure they could rearrange the season for us - we are their favourites after all
KR said they want to help us - so this would be a start
In fact, if we play all three KR games in the first weekend they might actually get that 10,000 crowd (in total)'"
I think the rfl would rather give us are 12 points back than mess up their fixture list
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WombatGC has our logo as his avatar. Marvellous.
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| Quote ="ridlerbull"WombatGC has our logo as his avatar. Marvellous.
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Wombat is Mick Gledhill. An alternative fact you were unaware of.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Wombat is Mick Gledhill. An alternative fact you were unaware of.'"
Oh. How disappointing.
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| Quote ="ridlerbull"Oh. How disappointing.
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It is an alternative fact.
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