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| Quote ="Terrace singer"Ok look at it this way then, this 'section for non-smokers' what if smokers have been standing there for 20 years? Why should they have to move?'"
But it's ok for me to have to move five times in one match!
You are obviously incapable of reasonable argument.
Anyhow i thought you were going back to watch Bradford City so it won't be an issue for you anyway as you will be at Valley Parade.
As i said 1,000 non smoking spaces out of a 21,000 capacity terrace hardly seems unreasonable.
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| Quote ="Terrace singer"Ok look at it this way then, this 'section for non-smokers' what if smokers have been standing there for 20 years? Why should they have to move?'"
Personally in this day and age you should be banned from smoking in there due to Health & Safety
But............... Also in this day and age quite a big percentage of the population tend to smoke so its a hard rule to enforce
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| if it is nearly 1 in 4 then they don't all smoke during the game.
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| Quote ="phillgee"if it is nearly 1 in 4 then they don't all smoke during the game.'"
Ok then, well from 1 hour before K.O and all duration of the game including half time, i bet its not far off 24%
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| Quote ="Terrace singer"I wonder just how much % of the bradford crowd do actually smoke, my prediction is 23%'"
What research is this based on?
The fact of the matter is wherever you stand you can breath in smoke, so a small section of non smoking terracing shouldn't be a problem should it?
Or would you prefer it if i stopped attending matches as i have only been watching the Bulls since 1994.
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| Quote ="hi de hi"What research is this based on?
The fact of the matter is wherever you stand you can breath in smoke, so a small section of non smoking terracing shouldn't be a problem should it?
Or would you prefer it if i stopped attending matches as i have only been watching the Bulls since 1994.'"
Who said anything about research??
I think you will find there is a slight difference between prediction and research.
Just a quick question, how many of the people you go with/talk to, at the bulls smoke?
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| Quote ="hi de hi"What research is this based on?
The fact of the matter is wherever you stand you can breath in smoke, so a small section of non smoking terracing shouldn't be a problem should it?
Or would you prefer it if i stopped attending matches as i have only been watching the Bulls since 1994.'"
Those smokers are doing their bit for the UK economy during hard times.
What are you contributing? You'll still want NHS treatment if you need it but you want to dictate where the smokers who are paying for it stand for a cig. Typical sponging Non-smokers and T-totallers
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| Is Smoking at Odsal that big of a deal? People have the freedom to enjoy a cigarette etc and i have never been that bothered by someone smoking as to want a section for them. Segregation of smokers and non smokers is not a good idea as it would mean that they would have to move which noone should be asked to. The solution is tolerate it, which you should be able to do as it is not like these people are blowing directly into your face (plus Odsal is very areated due to the lack of a roof so your discomfort should not last long.) or politiley ask them to not to blow the smoke in your area.
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| It only takes one person to be stood within a short distance to be affected, so the actual percentage of the crowd is irrelevant.
What is your answer to the situation?
Should there be a small section set aside for non smokers, or shall i stop attending, or would you prefer me to partake in passive smoking?
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| Quote ="JBT1991"Is Smoking at Odsal that big of a deal? People have the freedom to enjoy a cigarette etc and i have never been that bothered by someone smoking as to want a section for them. Segregation of smokers and non smokers is not a good idea as it would mean that they would have to move which noone should be asked to. The solution is tolerate it, which you should be able to do as it is not like these people are blowing directly into your face (plus Odsal is very areated due to the lack of a roof so your discomfort should not last long.) or politiley ask them to not to blow the smoke in your area.'"
Correct, when I do have a cig at odsal, I always blow the smoke up in the air, its not as if I lean over and blow it in the faces of the people in front/ to the side of me, and to be fair a lot of other smokers will do the same.
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| As a smoker, I do smoke during matches. I try not to but during some matches I find I'm puffing away alot more than usual (bulls V saints). However if I am smoking during matches, I will move away from non-smokers. I also check which way the wind is blowing my smoke and adjust either the direction I'm blowing or where I am stood if the smoke is touching anyone, smoker or not.
The law says no smoking in enclosed public spaces, which Odsal is not! However if anyone did ask me to move, hell even if they just gave me a dirty look for smoking, I'd move away. It only takes a few steps up or down to be in a more socially acceptable place to smoke.
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| Quote ="hi de hi"It only takes one person to be stood within a short distance to be affected, so the actual percentage of the crowd is irrelevant.
What is your answer to the situation?
Should there be a small section set aside for non smokers, or shall i stop attending, or would you prefer me to partake in passive smoking?'"
No there is no need for you to stop attending Odsal, the club needs ever member to carry on going and so does the team.
Ok then, you answer me this:
Some people dont like the smell of beer, should there be a section for non-beer likers?
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| Quote ="hi de hi"It only takes one person to be stood within a short distance to be affected, so the actual percentage of the crowd is irrelevant.
What is your answer to the situation?
Should there be a small section set aside for non smokers, or shall i stop attending, or would you prefer me to partake in passive smoking?'"
Tabbing all afternoon jeez. Buy your own!
They're not cheap you know? A packet of cigs nowadays is about 7 quid of which nearly 10 pounds goes to the treasury.
We need to smoke and booze the deficit down or we'll end up like Greece.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Well yeah they should, but there should be non smoking pubs as well'"
Now there is an idea! You should tell someone!
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| Quote ="Terrace singer"Correct, when I do have a cig at odsal, I always blow the smoke up in the air, its not as if I lean over and blow it in the faces of the people in front/ to the side of me, and to be fair a lot of other smokers will do the same.'"
Have you tried blowing it in the faces of the opposition?
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| Quote ="Terrace singer"No there is no need for you to stop attending Odsal, the club needs ever member to carry on going and so does the team.
Ok then, you answer me this:
Some people dont like the smell of beer, should there be a section for non-beer likers?'"
If you like, you can make it the same as the non smoking one for me. You can smoke and drink all you like but i think 5% maximum of the terrace is nothing much to ask.
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| Quote ="debaser"Have you tried blowing it in the faces of the opposition?'"
Thats our lasses job, i aint much of a blower.
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| Odsal must be the only sporting venue in the country where you are still allowed to smoke. It must only be a matter of time before it is made non-smoking I should imagine.
And I have no strong feelings either way. As a committed ex-smoker, I can see both sides of the argument. And there have been times over the last few seasons when I certainly could have used one...
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| Quote ="debaser"Odsal must be the only sporting venue in the country where you are still allowed to smoke. It must only be a matter of time before it is made non-smoking I should imagine.
And I have no strong feelings either way. As a committed ex-smoker, I can see both sides of the argument. And there have been times over the last few seasons when I certainly could have used one...'"
Is castlefords ground non-smoking?
I think headingly is non-smoking, even though there was a lot of people round me the other week smoking.
What about wakey?
I arnt been sarcastic, i just genuinely don't know, as they are more or less the same sort of ground as odsal(no roof)
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| Think Headlingley is non-smoking. Don't know about the rest.
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| Quote ="debaser"Think Headlingley is non-smoking. Don't know about the rest.'"
I think headingly is only a non-smoking stadium because only one side is open top, the rest has got a roof on, you've got to go near the toilets to have a cig.
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| Headingley and Cas are both non-smoking. You can smoke at Wakey i believe. Headingley has been no smoking for a while now.
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| Quote ="Terrace singer"Is castlefords ground non-smoking?
I think headingly is non-smoking, even though there was a lot of people round me the other week smoking.
What about wakey?
I arnt been sarcastic, i just genuinely don't know, as they are more or less the same sort of ground as odsal(no roof)'"
It is. They do spot searches when you come through the turnstyles & confiscate fags. You get them back on the way out though. Something to do with the asbestos roof apparently.
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| Quote ="hi de hi"What research is this based on?
The fact of the matter is wherever you stand you can breath in smoke, so a small section of non smoking terracing shouldn't be a problem should it?
Or would you prefer it if i stopped attending matches as i have only been watching the Bulls since 1994.'"
I dont think terrace singer was even born in 1994 let alone old enough to even smoke
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