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| Is Robbie Paul still involved?
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| The T&A does say that the private legal actions against the individuals is to continue though....so all is not sweetness and light.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"The T&A does say that the private legal actions against the individuals is to continue though....so all is not sweetness and light.'"
A private matter though, between OK, Whitcu*t and Moore. Nothing to do with the club itself.
If an agreement to transfer the shares - to someone - has been reached, those three (if anyone can ever find Whitcu*t, and in the same number of pieces as he was last seen) can knock seven bells out of each other someplace quiet, at their convenience.
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| Quote ="broadybull87"Maybe to just iron out final details, would expect moore to join as a director if he and khan can sort out the issues they have.
Hopefully it's a big step in the right direction'"
I expect generally that "in principle" just means that the details on paper and signatures have not been acquired. I feel confident that the Bulls Directors have removed a major obstacle with the help of the RFL. There is often a level of disquiet with the RFL but I would rather think that they are competent and experienced at dealing with matters of this type.
The matter of legal action privately by Mr Khan, well, more often court action never gets there. 1. Costs and 2. A person might think that they have a watertight case and then leave disappointed and with a seriously empty wallet.
Frankly no one knows what the outcome will be.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Whitcu*t '"
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| There are rumours of a winding up order being issued against OK Bulls at the end of December
[urlhttp://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/824455/supplements/1214[/url
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| Quote ="daveyz999"There are rumours of a winding up order being issued against OK Bulls at the end of December
[urlhttp://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/824455/supplements/1214[/url'"
Wasn't that to do with the annual return being late? I would assume (or guess) thats now sorted with the annual return being sent in?
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| I hope so, rumours are that the application is dated the 24th December, but the link above is the only thing I can find on London Gazette website
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The D2 next to OK Bulls represents the following;
(D2) THE COMPANY'S ANNUAL RETURN.
This came from the Facebook fan page, looks like it's a load of Bull... As you were
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| Quote ="daveyz999"I hope so, rumours are that the application is dated the 24th December, but the link above is the only thing I can find on London Gazette website
Edited...
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(D2) THE COMPANY'S ANNUAL RETURN.
This came from the Facebook fan page, looks like it's a load of Bull... As you were'"
Indeed, D2 is simply a notice that the Annual Return has been filed. If you go up to Page 1 of these reports the Key for the codes is always there (sorry if you already knew this).
Obviously, now we've been mentioned in the Gazette, it'll find it's way onto the T&A forum (which I'm quickly losing any and all patience with) and it'll be the end of the world
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| Quote ="Adeybull":2r54scqmA private matter though, between OK, Whitcu*t and Moore. Nothing to do with the club itself.
If an agreement to transfer the shares - to someone - has been reached, those three (if anyone can ever find Whitcu*t, and in the same number of pieces as he was last seen) can knock seven bells out of each other someplace quiet, at their convenience.'" is enough to make your eyes water.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"Is Robbie Paul still involved?'"
Yes Robbie's still CEO. This weeks belong email just came through and it's prefaced with a statement from Robbie that mentions yesterday's agreement.
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| Quote ="SombreroBu11"Indeed, D2 is simply a notice that the Annual Return has been filed. If you go up to Page 1 of these reports the Key for the codes is always there (sorry if you already knew this).
Obviously, now we've been mentioned in the Gazette, it'll find it's way onto the T&A forum (which I'm quickly losing any and all patience with) and it'll be the end of the world
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Is it me or is it that the T&A are frightened of upsetting the Asian community by going against OK and siding with the new regime?
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| Quote ="SombreroBu11"Obviously, now we've been mentioned in the Gazette, it'll find it's way onto the T&A forum (which I'm quickly losing any and all patience with) and it'll be the end of the world
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Don't worry, one of the [iagents provocateur[/i on there wasted no time in getting in with it.
A funny thing happened on there today, though. A few good men and true look to have made a bit of an effort, and we've pretty well run the bad guys off. For now, anyway. Indeed, hardly any have made an appearance. Under no illusions it'll last, though. There are bad guys on there, probably in a number of camps, who are clearly doing their level best to undermine the club in any way they can. And an unmoderated forum is the idea platform for them to excrete their billious poison.
Maybe if a few more good men and true made a concerted effort, it ould be much harder for the bad guys to hold sway on there.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Don't worry, one of the [iagents provocateur[/i on there wasted no time in getting in with it.
A funny thing happened on there today, though. A few good men and true look to have made a bit of an effort, and we've pretty well run the bad guys off. For now, anyway. Indeed, hardly any have made an appearance. Under no illusions it'll last, though. There are bad guys on there, probably in a number of camps, who are clearly doing their level best to undermine the club in any way they can. And an unmoderated forum is the idea platform for them to excrete their billious poison.
Maybe if a few more good men and true made a concerted effort, it ould be much harder for the bad guys to hold sway on there.'"
Hmm I noticed, I made sure he was aware he was talking out of his backside and knew nothing. I've no doubt that the lot of them will be back at some point, but it's always nice to see how quiet they are when there's good news.
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| Quote ="ifallwerelikemumby"Is it me or is it that the T&A are frightened of upsetting the Asian community by going against OK and siding with the new regime?'"
Personally, I doubt that's the reason, but Mr Heppenstall, or at least his Editor, do seem to have some pro-OK slant to what they write.
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| more often court action never gets there. 1. Costs and 2. A person might think that they have a watertight case and then leave disappointed and with a seriously empty wallet.
Frankly no one knows what the outcome will be
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| Quote ="SombreroBu11"Personally, I doubt that's the reason, but Mr Heppenstall, or at least his Editor, do seem to have some pro-OK slant to what they write.'"
Free Lunch is a phrase one finds used in English Literature.
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| Quote ="SombreroBu11"Personally, I doubt that's the reason, but Mr Heppenstall, or at least his Editor, do seem to have some pro-OK slant to what they write.'"
I agree, I very much doubt there is any racial angle in there at all.
I've discussed this question of perceived slant with Ross. He assures me that there is no slant from him, and that he is just trying to report what is there. Judge for yoursellves, although I know for a fact that OK played hell with him over some aspects of reporting when HE was in charge - not least because someone I trust saw it first hand. Maybe it is the lot of the messenger to be shot at?
Let's not forget, Ross is a journalist and his job is to report news and stories. Not to be the club PR department, and equally not to be the voice of those who might wish to upset the applecart. For every reader who sees Ross' reports on the financials as negative, there will be another who plays hell with him for not digging into (or legally being able to publish) things further. You can see plenty of the latter on the T&A rantaboard.
I'm sure he is as frustrated as the rest of us with what is going on, and the continuing lack of closure and of sugar daddies. Regardless of in what form, OK DID put funds into the club, so maybe he is taking that into account? Don't forget, he is a sports journalist and so the financials and legals are not really his field. (I suspect most fans would empathise with that!)
I used to play merry hell with Caisley for berating the media - or the fans for that matter - when they said things he did not agree with. Indeed, my own more active engagement with the club started at the turn of the century, when (in a post titled "A new year's plea"icon_wink.gif I pleaded with Caisley and Sadler - and others - to quit trying to score points off each other and move on. And we had a major run-in with the guy over a piece Bullseye and I wrote regarding his silly proposal for a Sky "Blackout" a few years later, that figured prominently in the T&A and other media. He went ape over it, but tough titty mate - spout bollox and you have to expect a reaction!
And I'd make the same plea to those running the club now. If you don't like what is being reported, sit down with the guy and explain your case. But recognise that he has his job to do, and that job is not the club PR department.
I DO think the T&A ought to be asking a lot more questions of the invisible Gerry. As I have said before, as an active director more than happy to share the limelight when things looked positive, IMO he has serious questions to answer now. But maybe if this ownership crap gets finally sorted, that will prove unnecessary. And probably best all round. But you can hardly take issue with a sports journalist for not paddling in that pool - its way out of his league. Whether, as some allege, the T&A is in the pocket of the council and the politicians is not something a sports journalist should have to concern himself with, surely?
And it sure as hell is not something the fans, who just want to watch a load of supreme athletes chucking an oval ball around on the park with extreme skill and bollox to all the financials and legals, should have to worry about?
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| Quote ="ifallwerelikemumby"Is it me or is it that the T&A are frightened of upsetting the Asian community by going against OK and siding with the new regime?'"
Does the vast majority of the Asian community or, come to that, the population of the district give a toss what is happening at the Bulls or on the back page of the T&A?
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| Quote ="tigertot":aney6du6Does the vast majority of the Asian community or, come to that, the population of the district give a toss what is happening at the Bulls or on the back page of the T&A?'" the one thing I've learned from friends is that the 'Asian community', split as it is, by religions and 'homeland' factions, is far from being some kind of homogenised lump and is as diverse as the 'non Asian community' when it comes to taking sides in disputes.
Reasonably successful people tend to divide all opinion anyway, I'd suspect Omar falls into that category.
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| What's odd about the t&a saga is that, as pointed out at the time, the articles that I think the bulls board are referring to as damaging weren't actually credited to Ross himself. Instead of his name being at the top of the article, there was simply nothing there. So who wrote them?
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| Are there any examples of this pro-OK stance as I can't recall reading anything in the T and A and thinking this is pro or anti OK or Moore/Calvert/Watt.
The article which I thought was bizarre and I have no idea why Ross or the editor went with was the one which claimed Lord Peter of Hood was effectively cleared of wrongdoing and the club would be in a better shape if he'd stayed in control. The sentence which stated the club had 200k in the bank at the time he left without mentioning Lord Peter had sold the ground and begged a half a million in the months prior, is up there with Freddie Starr ate my hamster.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"Are there any examples of this pro-OK stance as I can't recall reading anything in the T and A and thinking this is pro or anti OK or Moore/Calvert/Watt.
The article which I thought was bizarre and I have no idea why Ross or the editor went with was the one which claimed Lord Peter of Hood was effectively cleared of wrongdoing and the club would be in a better shape if he'd stayed in control. The sentence which stated the club had 200k in the bank at the time he left without mentioning Lord Peter had sold the ground and begged a half a million in the months prior, is up there with Freddie Starr ate my hamster.'"
The only thing bizarre is that your still missing the point(s) as a starter clue the Bulls didn't own the ground they sold their leasing of it to the RFL! (Which is why the RFL are still taking such a keen interest in having the Bulls as a going concern.)
The rest of your assumptions are as usual up in the air!
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| Apologies, I assumed everyone on here knew the bit about the lease/ground.
On my other up in the air assumptions, did I merely assume that someone once said that things were going so well the Good Friday 2012 game against Leeds could be the club's last? Or did that really happen?
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