|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 14145 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2020 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="6Iestyn6"If he gets a new contract the crowds could well go to an all time low.'"
If the team do very well, regardless of who is coach, the crowds ought to rise.
If the team do pants, regardless of who is coach, the crowds will likely fall again.
I presume what you mean to say is that you are assuming the latter will happen under Macca, and the former is moire likely under someone else? That would make more sense?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 10969 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2023 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="Adeybull"d040.gif
If the team do very well, regardless of who is coach, the crowds ought to rise.
If the team do pants, regardless of who is coach, the crowds will likely fall again.
I presume what you mean to say is that you are assuming the latter will happen under Macca, and the former is moire likely under someone else? That would make more sense?'"
Typical Adeybull, letting common sense get in the way of a good rant................
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 993 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2022 | Apr 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="6Iestyn6"If he gets a new contract the crowds could well go to an all time low.'"
Sorry but if we want to get back on form to challenge for the top slots then we need new blood, whilst SM is a good coach he is not going to take my side to the top. If we sign him for another few years it will be the same old, tactics and league positions.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 14145 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2020 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/7986859.Hood__McNamara_England_move_would_be____odd____decision/=#FF0000The Chairman speaks[/url
Hmm. Nothing very unequivocal there. Reading that, anyone not knowing any of the characters or the background would surely read it as saying the Chairman does not know what the coach's plans are, and in turn has no long-term plans for the coach - given the lack of any ringing endorsement.
Or they all know exactly what is happening but are not for saying yet.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 32067 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="Adeybull"[url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/7986859.Hood__McNamara_England_move_would_be____odd____decision/=#FF0000The Chairman speaks[/url
Hmm. Nothing very unequivocal there. Reading that, anyone not knowing any of the characters or the background would surely read it as saying the Chairman does not know what the coach's plans are, and in turn has no long-term plans for the coach - given the lack of any ringing endorsement.
Or they all know exactly what is happening but are not for saying yet.'"
Agreed. I hope it's the last sentence.
If it isn't then I'd be surprised. As I said somewhere earlier I'd be amazed if McNamara wasn't keeping Hood informed of goings on after the way Hood's stuck by him since 2006. Similarly if Hood's not offered a new contract yet then McNamara's going to have to weigh up alternatives. Having said that I think it would be too soon to offer a new deal anyway, if at all.
Just hope the directors have some decent irons in the fire if we need to find a replacement.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 8224 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2012 | Sep 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| well i doubt very much the rfl have just put names in a hat and gone "we're interviewing x,y,z for the england job." more likely certain coaches have applied for the job, possibly as speculative applications. agar, mcnamara, mcdermott, they all had the same thing in common when the rumours started. they're likely to be sat home next season as things stand. agar is out of the running after the hull board gave him 2 more years but mcnamara is out of contract at the end of the season and mcdermott's head is wanted by the quins fans and he has been in the last chance saloon so long he has his own stool by the bar.
so it stands to reason that they would be looking at their future.
or, if the rfl have approached mcnamara off their own backs it could be that we have a similar situation to Deacon early in the season. He asked the club for a release to go to Wigan to be a player/coach, the club only agreed to that if they could find a suitable replacement then we got the call saying would you like to sign orford and it's bye bye deacs.
so, it maybe the club have asked mcnamara and the rfl to hold off on the announcements until they have a suitable replacement lined up
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 63 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2013 | Sep 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| No-one seems to have expressed surprise that McNamara is even being considered for the England job. He's hardly proved his credentials at Bradford has he? I respect McNamara as a person and I think he was a great player but he's not yet shown that he's cut out to be a successful coach.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 32067 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="photographer"No-one seems to have expressed surprise that McNamara is even being considered for the England job. He's hardly proved his credentials at Bradford has he? I respect McNamara as a person and I think he was a great player but he's not yet shown that he's cut out to be a successful coach.'"
You're assuming that the England job is one that appeals to coaches!
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 12310 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2023 | Feb 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I'm dreading an announcement from the club or the RFL.
As much as i'd love to see a top Aussie coach, I can just see us going for McDermott or Lowes, and imo we would go backwards.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5283 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Dec 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"I'm dreading an announcement from the club or the RFL.
As much as i'd love to see a top Aussie coach, I can just see us going for McDermott or Lowes, and imo we would go backwards.'"
Agreed.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1894 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2017 | Nov 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I've thought for the last two seasons that Macca was not up to the job in SL, not that he's bad, just not up to speed in the modern game either as a man motivator, tecnical coach or a tactition.
I think his coaching has become stale and uninspired so we do need a new cioach for enervation.
BUT frying pan and fire is a phrase that immediatly comes to mind.
There are better coaches we could appoint but there is some dross that would not improve us at all.
Should Macca be leaving, and this is by no means a possibilty at this time, then it would be dissapointing if a top notch coach could not be appointed.
There would be a financial issue of course in expenditure, but I would argue that a top coach is worth at least the salary of a top player.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 12310 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2023 | Feb 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| After reading that T & A article I thought he must be going.
Listen to this weeks Pulse Podcast, McNamara does sound genuine and I don't think he's going now.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 864 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Jun 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Blotto"To right! the available list is in no particular order. Paul Cullen Bobby Goulding Andy Kelly, Steve Sims could be tempted from Salford!
There ain't no one out there at present who I would like to see at the Club if Macca did move on prematurely'"
Karl Harrison is doing a good job at Batley, got Salford promoted and into play-offs before a disaster final season with them. Ex-assistant so knows club
Warren Jowett is an ex-player who guided Dewsbury through last season unbeaten.
Both better options than Steve Sims and easier to prise away than Cullen. Could also add Betts to that list. He didn't do too bad at Wigan.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 3859 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2017 | Jul 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Sumbody"Karl Harrison is doing a good job at Batley, got Salford promoted and into play-offs before a disaster final season with them. Ex-assistant so knows club
Warren Jowett is an ex-player who guided Dewsbury through last season unbeaten.
Both better options than Steve Sims and easier to prise away than Cullen. Could also add Betts to that list. He didn't do too bad at Wigan.'"
None of them would be good for our club. Not experienced enough and haven't shown any proper quality in coaching. Australia is the place to look, if we took any of those mentioned in your post then that would be a disaster.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 583 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2023 | Jan 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Has not proved he is any more likely to achieve than any previous have..and considering his team have to soldier on without a decent goal kicker,one has to question his judgement.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 108 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2011 | Apr 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Just found this on the giants forum:
Well we wont be getting Jon Sharp back if Nathan Brown goes,hes going to Bradford as head coach,heard that from someone who works for the Bulls as Macnamara has got the England job
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 3859 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2017 | Jul 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| If the rumour of Jon Sharp is true then I fear an even rougher next couple of years!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9183 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="bullsfan"Just found this on the giants forum:
Well we wont be getting Jon Sharp back if Nathan Brown goes,hes going to Bradford as head coach,heard that from someone who works for the Bulls as Macnamara has got the England job
'"
Suddenly McNamara staying might not seem so bad to some people!! At best it would be a step sideways, but I don't particularly rate Sharp that highly.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 1332 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Feb 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="bullsfan"Just found this on the giants forum:
Well we wont be getting Jon Sharp back if Nathan Brown goes,hes going to Bradford as head coach,heard that from someone who works for the Bulls as Macnamara has got the England job
'"
You're all reading this wrong because of a simple punctuation mistake, it should read
"Well we wont be getting Jon Sharp back. If Nathan Brown goes, he's going to Bradford as head coach."
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 12310 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2023 | Feb 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="tristram"You're all reading this wrong because of a simple punctuation mistake, it should read
"Well we wont be getting Jon Sharp back. If Nathan Brown goes, he's going to Bradford as head coach."'"
That's actually how I read it at first!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9554 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Paul124897"If the rumour of Jon Sharp is true then I fear an even rougher next couple of years!'"
could be some sense in sharp.didnt macca start as a coach under sharp?. so macca may have reccomended him. plus sharp is, I think ,currently out of work (or is he stilll director of rugby at hull?) so available to start immediately. At best though this could only be seen as a like for like replacement and not an improvement. suppose it could just be a caretaker appointment till end of season and I suppose its a slight improvement on mcdermott.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 22320 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Sep 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="mat"could be some sense in sharp.didnt macca start as a coach under sharp?. so macca may have reccomended him. plus sharp is, I think ,currently out of work (or is he stilll director of rugby at hull?) so available to start immediately. At best though this could only be seen as a like for like replacement and not an improvement. suppose it could just be a caretaker appointment till end of season and I suppose its a slight improvement on mcdermott.'"
Jon Sharps Nobles assistant in Wales.
For some reason we, super league, don't give our young coaches the right education or patience. We rush them in fairly young and demand instant sucess.
From the rumours in Sydney mcmanara will be smiths assistant next year, he'll also bring a couple of sl players, and he'll further his education.
Why would any young coach want the England job? It's full time, what a joke, and a up hill battle because of the strengh of Australia.
I'd like to see a time served coach motivate the side backed up by a top super league coach (maguire or brown).
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 32067 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Sharpe has to be RL's most boring man.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4035 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Jan 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| [urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/10/04/12/RUGBYL_England.html[/url
[urlhttp://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12196_6089425,00.html[/url
Sorry if its posted eslewhere but I have not seen it;
"[iThe Rugby Football League are edging closer to appointing a successor for Tony Smith, and could reportedly enlist the help of his older brother.
After stepping down as England head coach last year, Smith is likely to be succeeded in the role by Bradford boss Steve McNamara, who has emerged from an all-British shortlist of four as favourite for the full-time job.
And he is expected to have as a mentor Brian Smith, the 56-year-old Australian brother of Tony who helmed Hull and Bradford in the early days of Super League and is now head coach of Sydney Roosters.
It is likely an announcement will be made in the next 10 days, although the RFL have refused to comment on the speculation. [/i"
Not for sure but it does seem like just a matter of timing the announcement and working out the details with his current employer, us.
Some people might be about to see what happens when you get what you wish for...
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4371 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2017 | Nov 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I'm very aware the RFL are wanting a full-time coach, but does Macca need to take the job up on a full-time basis right now? With just one friendly IIRC before the end of the season, you'd hope he could continue doing what he's doing here until October (hopefully by bowing out with a GF win), thus also giving the board maximum time to find the right man to succeed him.
I honestly hope it isn't true though, be a shame when the seeds are just starting to bear fruit under Macca's reign now, that he would walk out to take on a job with England.
|
|
|
|
|